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31 Mar 2007, 07:48 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Dreamscape,

The error_log is filling up like crazy with:
[Sat Mar 31 01:43:14 2007] [debug] mod_rewrite.c(1644): [client 66.249.65.73] mod_rewrite's internal redirect status: 0/10.

I contacted our host and this is their response:

Quote:

Hello,

This seems to be a coding error in your .htaccess file. You have to check this with the developer of the script. The entry that is causing the error is,

============================================
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php/$1 [L,QSA] ============================================

Please verify.

Any ideas?

Also what's the difference between

Code:

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php/$1 [L,QSA]

and

Code:

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php?seo_url=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L]
31 Mar 2007, 09:53 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Can some of you who are using this mod please check your apache error log and see if you're seeing any errors related to this mod? Our error log is filling up with errors after installing this mod.

Thanks!
2 Apr 2007, 05:18 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellow1912

My bad *_*, I didnt see it. By the way, my Paypal Express url is rewritten as http://www.domain.com/ipn_main_handler.php.html?type=ec , any idea?

The problem still exist. This mod doesn't work well with Paypal Express Checkout if you have default extension set to .html. Setting default extension to / or blank works just fine.

There are actually two problems:

The mod is set to not use seo url for https but in this case the mod is adding .html to the url even though it should have skipped it. The url returned is https://www.domain.com/ipn_main_hand...p.html?type=ec instead of https://www.domain.com/ipn_main_handler.php?type=ec

If the mod would have obeyed the instruction to skip SSL pages this problem wouldn't happened in the first case.

Secondly, since .html is suppose to be a valid default extension this should work but it doesn't.

I will log this into the bug tracker.
2 Apr 2007, 05:32 AM
jeking

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

This is probably a silly question. I've got a fresh install of 1.3.7 and want to install this mod. The first step is to modify application_top.php around line 355. It's only got 131 lines. I'm stuck on step one.
2 Apr 2007, 05:48 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeking

This is probably a silly question. I've got a fresh install of 1.3.7 and want to install this mod. The first step is to modify application_top.php around line 355. It's only got 131 lines. I'm stuck on step one.

Are you sure you have the right version of this mod? Which version did you download?
2 Apr 2007, 05:51 AM
jeking

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

I thought so, it's ver 2.1 If there's a newer version, where can I find it?
2 Apr 2007, 05:56 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeking

I thought so, it's ver 2.1 If there's a newer version, where can I find it?

Go to page 53 of this thread.
2 Apr 2007, 06:02 AM
jeking

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

Go to page 53 of this thread.

Ah, got it, thanks. Does that contain all of the bug fixes mentioned on page 70?
2 Apr 2007, 06:06 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeking

Ah, got it, thanks. Does that contain all of the bug fixes mentioned on page 70?

You can download the one on page 70 to grab all the fixes all incorporated. Make sure you pay attention to errors that have been reported but not fixed as well.
3 Apr 2007, 04:28 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Hi Guys

I have just finished installing this mod but it isn't working :(

I followed the guide.pdf to the letter, (and added the fixes from page 70) Ive tried both 3a & 3b in my .htaccess, as I am not sure if path_info is installed, its not showing up in server_info. But either way it wont work :(

Strange thing is, I only ran the install once, but I actually have 2 SEO links in my configuration menu. I don't know if that will break anything but I figure if just make sure the settings I want are the same in both menus I can ignore it.

Is there anything Ive neglected to mention?

thanks in advance

=^_^=
3 Apr 2007, 05:04 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Hi Guys

I have just finished installing this mod but it isn't working :(

I followed the guide.pdf to the letter, (and added the fixes from page 70) Ive tried both 3a & 3b in my .htaccess, as I am not sure if path_info is installed, its not showing up in server_info. But either way it wont work :(

Strange thing is, I only ran the install once, but I actually have 2 SEO links in my configuration menu. I don't know if that will break anything but I figure if just make sure the settings I want are the same in both menus I can ignore it.

Is there anything Ive neglected to mention?

thanks in advance

=^_^=

What do you have enabled from the configuration setting on the admin side?
3 Apr 2007, 05:10 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Both entries have the following settings:

Code:

Seo Urls Status On 301 Redirection Status On Page Base - Default Extensions .html Url Plugins - Character Plugins -
3 Apr 2007, 05:26 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Both entries have the following settings:

Code:

Seo Urls Status On 301 Redirection Status On Page Base - Default Extensions .html Url Plugins - Character Plugins -

You need to turn on default url plugins if you haven't and and also make sure that you check Format: Strip Invalid and Format: Lowercase.

Please report back after making the above changes.
3 Apr 2007, 05:27 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Both entries have the following settings:

Code:

Seo Urls Status On 301 Redirection Status On Page Base - Default Extensions .html Url Plugins - Character Plugins -

By the way be careful how you use the .html extension. There is a known issue with Paypal Express Checkout when .html extension is use.
3 Apr 2007, 05:45 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Thanks

It they looks like this:

Code:

Seo Urls Status On 301 Redirection Status On Page Base Default Extension Url Plugins Core: Advanced Search, Core: Default, Core: Category, Core: Manufacturer, Core: Advanced Search: Result, Core: Product, Core: Product: Image, Core: Default: Skip SSL, Core: Default Skips Character Plugins Format: Lowercase, Format: Strip Invalid

It is still not working. how can I get rid of the 2nd SEO link in the config menu??
3 Apr 2007, 05:56 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Ignore the above.. its all sorted :)

Thanks

If it really starts to bug me, can you suggest how I can remove one of the SEO entries in the config menu?
3 Apr 2007, 06:10 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Ignore the above.. its all sorted :)

Thanks

If it really starts to bug me, can you suggest how I can remove one of the SEO entries in the config menu?

You cart is pretty messed up. I can't even add an item to cart. You might want to disable seo url and test your template first to make sure that your site works. It doesn't appear that your IH2 is configured right either.
3 Apr 2007, 06:57 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Lol

Thanks

But, I haven't had the same problem with adding products. I just cant get past the shipping methods when I check out! .. :(

hmmm work to be done it seems .

thanks again
3 Apr 2007, 07:31 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

I dropped the SSL URL plugin, looks like I can checkout now.

Is there anything else you noticed? The IH2 thing is ok, I just use it for thumbnails anyway.

I still can't find the define for the 2nd SEO entry though :(

thanks
3 Apr 2007, 09:07 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Lol

Thanks

But, I haven't had the same problem with adding products. I just cant get past the shipping methods when I check out! .. :(

hmmm work to be done it seems .

thanks again

In my humble opinion I think you should turn shopping cart sidebox on or enable shopping cart total in the header or somehow give your customer a visual aid if you're not going to take them to the shopping cart after they are done adding something to cart.

Apparent my item was added to cart but there was no way for me to know until I click view cart (which is okay just not customer friendly if there is no other visual aid).

Also, your https: displays security warning message which is another issue for the already paranoid customers that may visit your site.

The site also doesn't line up well in IE7 (you might want to check all the major browser). Perhaps we should move this discussion to site review since this have nothing to do with ultimate seo url. :)

Just a quick feedback.
3 Apr 2007, 10:31 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Does anyone a have good uninstall process for this mod. I'd like to uninstall it. I want to make sure my index pages are given 301 Redirect. Here is my current .htaccess:

Code:

RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / # Music Product Type Pages from Ultimate Seo Urls version 2.1 to 3.X RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pmi-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] # From Ultimate Seo Urls version 2.1 to 3.X RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-p-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-c-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-m-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pi-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pr-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pri-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] # Seo Urls version 3.x # Don't rewrite real files or directories RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php?seo_url=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L] RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} . RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.clevershoppers\.com [NC] RewriteRule (.*) http://www.clevershoppers.com/$1 [R=301,L]

I am sure I need to change this line

Code:

RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php?seo_url=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L]

to

Code:

RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php?seo_url=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301]

This should take care of my old v2.103 redirecting from .html to original zen cart url.

However, what do I need to rewrite the new pages index without .html extension?

Thanks!
3 Apr 2007, 12:56 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Well, solved my own problem. After uninstalling this mod, this is the .htaccess to make sure all the old indexed pages are sent back to their original zen cart pages as well as sending a 301. One set of this .htaccess covers redirecting the urls generated using ultimate seo url 2.103 which generated urls with .html and the other set of the code deals with url generated using beta 3.0. If anyone see an error in the way this is setup please let me know. Thanks!

Code:

RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / # Music Product Type Pages from Ultimate Seo Urls version 2.1 to 3.X RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pmi-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] # From Ultimate Seo Urls version 2.1 to 3.X RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-p-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-p-(.*)$ index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-c-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-c-(.*)$ index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-m-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-m-([0-9]+)$ index\.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pi-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pi-([0-9]+)$ index\.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pr-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pr-([0-9]+)$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pri-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pri-([0-9]+)$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)$ index\.php?main_page=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} . RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.clevershoppers\.com [NC] RewriteRule (.*) http://www.clevershoppers.com/$1 [R=301,L]
3 Apr 2007, 01:42 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Here is an update .htaccess. I modified the last few lines because it was messing up domain/forum type of url.

Code:

RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / # Music Product Type Pages from Ultimate Seo Urls version 2.1 to 3.X RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pmi-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] # From Ultimate Seo Urls version 2.1 to 3.X RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-p-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-p-(.*)$ index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-c-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-c-(.*)$ index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-m-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-m-([0-9]+)$ index\.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pi-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pi-([0-9]+)$ index\.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pr-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pr-([0-9]+)$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pri-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*)-pri-([0-9]+)$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteRule ^(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [NC] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.*) index\.php?main_page=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} . RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.clevershoppers\.com [NC] RewriteRule (.*) http://www.clevershoppers.com/$1 [R=301,L]
3 Apr 2007, 04:26 PM
ctcentralinfo

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

So what issues where you having with this mod.
3 Apr 2007, 07:24 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctcentralinfo

So what issues where you having with this mod.

There are so many scenarios causing issues that I really don't have time to go into all but here are a few...

Search Engines are confused when generating url for index when this mod is activated. MSN and Shopwiki are the ones affected the most, they keep adding all sort of garbage to the url like adding extra // in the wrong place and then when the url is clicked from index it returns 404. This behavior also changes depending on whether you're using .html or / or blank extension or not. Each one creates a different misformed url issue.

The setting of .html also breaks with Paypal Express unless you have seo url enabled for ssl (which I really don't want).

Some crawler/search engine are actually confused when no extension is indicated because they tried to look for what would be a default file type so when reading a url that ends with no extension (in this case) it causes other 404 issues. Obviously, there are a lot of site when this methods works just fine so it could be a configuration issue with my server or other things but there are issues nonetheless.

To be fair, this mod was released and we were all advised not to use this in production environment but of course I didn't listen to that. I have successfully uninstalled it and things are working fine and urls are not creating problems. For now I will go spend my time on making money instead of chasing bugs (if and when there is a production release of this mod, I might take a chance again).

One last piece of advice, to a naked eyes this thing looks like it's working flawlessly but you have to dig deep to find some of the issues. If you have user tracking installed, view the session for some of the search engines/crawler and you will see some of the stuff that may not be easily obvious. If you error log is set to capture the right logging to reveal all the different error messages, check it regularly. If you have awstats, run the report and take a look at the http error code, click on the 404 to see what's happening and try to dissect various things that are obvious.
3 Apr 2007, 10:03 PM
dreamscape

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

Dreamscape,

The error_log is filling up like crazy with:
[Sat Mar 31 01:43:14 2007] [debug] mod_rewrite.c(1644): [client 66.249.65.73] mod_rewrite's internal redirect status: 0/10.

I contacted our host and this is their response

The rules are quite simple, are correct, and should not be causing that error. The only reasons I can think of for that to be placed in the log is either a bug in the version of mod_rewrite you're using or a botched mod_rewrite install.

Not to be rude, but I'm assuming the later since you appear to have pretty incompetent server admins from some of the issues you say you have. Personally I'd run from their server ASAP, but your choice.

Sorry I can't be of more help.
3 Apr 2007, 10:31 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamscape

The rules are quite simple, are correct, and should not be causing that error. The only reasons I can think of for that to be placed in the log is either a bug in the version of mod_rewrite you're using or a botched mod_rewrite install.

Not to be rude, but I'm assuming the later since you appear to have pretty incompetent server admins from some of the issues you say you have. Personally I'd run from their server ASAP, but your choice.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

I guess it's easier for you to selectively reply to this and ignore other issues raised that have nothing to do with my hosting company. For example this mod doesn't work with Paypal Express Checkout when you have .html extension and you do not enable seo url for ssl and that's just one example.

I find it interesting that the mod_write works perfectly when the seo url is uninstalled and I am just using .htaccess to redirect old pages generated by seo url mod.
3 Apr 2007, 10:37 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamscape

The rules are quite simple, are correct, and should not be causing that error. The only reasons I can think of for that to be placed in the log is either a bug in the version of mod_rewrite you're using or a botched mod_rewrite install.

Not to be rude, but I'm assuming the later since you appear to have pretty incompetent server admins from some of the issues you say you have. Personally I'd run from their server ASAP, but your choice.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Not to be rude but you actually instructed us not to use this in a production environment because it's beta. Keep in mind this is a sponsored project that some of us funded to bring to completion and all we have to show for it is a BETA version no production release yet! So basically, we are still waiting to get a production release which is what I thought, we contributed to sponsor.
3 Apr 2007, 10:39 PM
dreamscape

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

I guess it's easier for you to selectively reply to this and ignore other issues raised that have nothing to do with my hosting company.

Like I've said many times before, this thread is NOT for official support. It is for community support. Use the bug tracker to reporting issues you believe *may* be bugs... NOT THE FORUM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

For example this mod doesn't work with Paypal Express Checkout when you have .html extension and you do not enable seo url for ssl and that's just one example.

already reported and fixed some time ago: http://bugs.smarterwebdev.com/view_bug.php?bug_id=11

And again I cannot stress enough that you should not install a BETA on a production site. If you're foolish enough to, then you can hardly have anyone to blame but yourself when the **** hits the fan.
3 Apr 2007, 10:47 PM
dreamscape

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

Keep in mind this is a sponsored project that some of us funded to bring to completion

A sponsored project, that's funny. If it were sponsored I'd be getting a weekly or monthly paycheck for work done.

The funding was for 10-15 working hours to help complete the version. Initial completion is done with first public release, beta or otherwise. Naturally there are going to be bugs to work out.

How much time do you think I've put into bringing 3.0 closer to production so far?? Well over the 10-15 hours that a group funded (for which I am eternally grateful). So don't keep brining up this "we paid you" BS like I'm somehow still in debt to you.
3 Apr 2007, 10:50 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamscape

If you're foolish enough to, then you can hardly have anyone to blame but yourself.

I am not going to engage in counter-productive posts. Perhaps, you can spend the time to deliver what you said you will when you requested contribution to finish this project. Or were we foolish enough to contribute to a BETA project that is NOT WORTHY of production environment?
3 Apr 2007, 10:51 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamscape

A sponsored project, that's funny. If it were sponsored I'd be getting a weekly or monthly paycheck for work done.

The funding was for 10-15 working hours to help complete the version. Initial completion is done with first public release, beta or otherwise. Naturally there are going to be bugs to work out.

How much time do you think I've put into bringing 3.0 closer to production so far?? Well over the 10-15 hours that a group funded (for which I am eternally grateful). So don't keep brining up this "we paid you" BS like I'm somehow still in debt to you.

Well, you're the one that estimated you only needed 10-15 hours and $500 to complete the project. Please take your own advise. If you're foolish enough to make the wrong estimation don't blame anyone but yourself.
3 Apr 2007, 11:00 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamscape

How much time do you think I've put into bringing 3.0 closer to production so far?? Well over the 10-15 hours that a group funded (for which I am eternally grateful). So don't keep brining up this "we paid you" BS like I'm somehow still in debt to you.

I am not attacking you or saying you're indebted to me or anyone else. In fact I was one of your strongest defended when everyone was giving you crap on this forum about this mod.

The point is if you're going to say I am foolish to use something that you call public release (which is of no use production-wise), then what exactly have you released.

I guess maybe in the future you can say you need people to help you funding releasing a beta version and testing in for you, then there will be no unreasonable expectation.

You're right that this project would have cost $1,000s of dollars and we are all greatful for your contributions to this community. You're probably in the top 5 contributors on this forum whose code is extremely clean and someone who takes a great pride in the quality of their work.

We appreciate your work and contribution but that doesn't warrant being rude...when you start to use words like foolish, incompetent, that takes it to a different level.

If my host are incompetent because there is problem with installation/configuration with mod_rewrite, does that mean every developers that have contributed on this forum and have a bug in their contribution are incompetent? Absolutely not! Don't be so quick to judge others lest you will be judge.
3 Apr 2007, 11:01 PM
dreamscape

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

If you're foolish enough to make the wrong estimation don't blame anyone but yourself.

An estimation is just that, a rough guess, not an actual or exact figure.

I'm through playing these silly mind game with you. For example, I love how you claim to be experiencing so many problems with the version 3 Beta, yet you have not reported a single one to the bug tracker. hmm... a bit odd.

If you really are having problems that you think may be bugs, then report them appropriately instead of coming into the community support thread and waiving your arms around wildly.
3 Apr 2007, 11:07 PM
Rupert

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Hey folks, this seems to be getting out of hand.

It really is not my place to say this, so appologies for butting in, just felt I needed to.

It is so difficult not to fall out over messaging, there is loads of indicators missing compared with speech, please do not forget this.

I am sure both sides feel frustrations, and have valuable points. Arguements in public are messy, can you keep it private please?
3 Apr 2007, 11:25 PM
ctcentralinfo

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamscape

An estimation is just that, a rough guess, not an actual or exact figure.

I'm through playing these silly mind game with you. For example, I love how you claim to be experiencing so many problems with the version 3 Beta, yet you have not reported a single one to the bug tracker. hmm... a bit odd.

If you really are having problems that you think may be bugs, then report them appropriately instead of coming into the community support thread and waiving your arms around wildly.

Come on folks lets calm down, take a step back from your keyboards, take a deep breath, inhale exhale, stand up go outside and enjoy some fresh air. No need to take things personally. We are a community of like minded people working together to improve our quality of life via e commerce. Anything that is worth doing takes time. I think that Dreamscape has done great work in the past, so give him time and he will have the project up and running. I also understand that BlessIsaacola and other members have paid for the new seo url mod, but you guys also have to realize that programming is not an exact science and that launch dates are not written in stone. You guys are kind of like kids waiting to open their presents on
Christmas eve, as much as you would like to rip open the rapping and play with your new presents you are just going to have to wait till Christmas day.
3 Apr 2007, 11:51 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamscape

An estimation is just that, a rough guess, not an actual or exact figure.

I'm through playing these silly mind game with you. For example, I love how you claim to be experiencing so many problems with the version 3 Beta, yet you have not reported a single one to the bug tracker. hmm... a bit odd.

If you really are having problems that you think may be bugs, then report them appropriately instead of coming into the community support thread and waiving your arms around wildly.

Good I am done playing the silly mind games with you as well. I will let you enjoy your self gratification. Your arrogancy is well noted as demonstrated even in your comments towards the Zen Cart team in fixing this bug: http://bugs.smarterwebdev.com/view_bug.php?bug_id=19 Obviously, you couldn't just provide the bug fix without taking a jab at the Zen Cart team. I guess you know it all! Now let see if you can stop waiving your fingers around wildly.
4 Apr 2007, 12:13 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

In my humble opinion I think you should turn shopping cart sidebox on or enable shopping cart total in the header or somehow give your customer a visual aid if you're not going to take them to the shopping cart after they are done adding something to cart.

Apparent my item was added to cart but there was no way for me to know until I click view cart (which is okay just not customer friendly if there is no other visual aid).

Thanks :) I'll be taking this over to review now.

But, before I do; I am curious about the shopping cart. I see it at the top of the right-column, with or without the SEO patch, on both browsers. I know the top menu is not centered on IE, but after much tweaking thats the best we can come up with.

My current SEO problem is that when I go to check out I am redirected to https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr which is fine, except the session breaks, so they are simply dumped to the paypal login with no order details :(

This sounds familiar so I am scouring this threads history, but if you have any suggestions...

thanks :)
4 Apr 2007, 04:00 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Thanks :) I'll be taking this over to review now.

But, before I do; I am curious about the shopping cart. I see it at the top of the right-column, with or without the SEO patch, on both browsers. I know the top menu is not centered on IE, but after much tweaking thats the best we can come up with.

My current SEO problem is that when I go to check out I am redirected to https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr which is fine, except the session breaks, so they are simply dumped to the paypal login with no order details :(

This sounds familiar so I am scouring this threads history, but if you have any suggestions...

thanks :)

What do you currently have for session setting on the admin side? Are you using a dedicated or shared SSL?
4 Apr 2007, 07:53 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

My session settings are as follows:

Code:

Session Directory /home/fleshmet/public_html/cache Cookie Domain True Force Cookie Use False Check SSL Session ID False Check User Agent False Check IP Address True Prevent Spider Sessions False Recreate Session False IP to Host Conversion Status True

But I don't know about dedicated or shared ssl
4 Apr 2007, 09:13 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

My session settings are as follows:

Code:

Session Directory /home/fleshmet/public_html/cache Cookie Domain True Force Cookie Use False Check SSL Session ID False Check User Agent False Check IP Address True Prevent Spider Sessions False Recreate Session False IP to Host Conversion Status True

But I don't know about dedicated or shared ssl

You currently do not have seo url activated on your site so it's hard to see the problem you're describing.

Just for giggles turn set Check IP Address to False, Recreate Session to True and test again and report back.
4 Apr 2007, 09:16 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

My session settings are as follows:

Code:

Session Directory /home/fleshmet/public_html/cache Cookie Domain True Force Cookie Use False Check SSL Session ID False Check User Agent False Check IP Address True Prevent Spider Sessions False Recreate Session False IP to Host Conversion Status True

But I don't know about dedicated or shared ssl

You also do not have SSL currently installed/activated on your site...you might want to do that first before run your tests.
4 Apr 2007, 09:42 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Still the same :(

I've left the mod on for you to check it out :)
4 Apr 2007, 10:15 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Still the same :(

I've left the mod on for you to check it out :)

I am not able to get beyond http://www.fleshmetal.com.au/checkout_shipping because there are no shipping option available. I cannot even get to payment option to select a payment to see what the issue is. Paypal Express is also not enable so I really cannot complete a transaction other creating an account.
4 Apr 2007, 10:48 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

lol sorry, I think you caught me fiddling with it

ill find something else to occupy me for a bit :)
4 Apr 2007, 08:51 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

lol sorry, I think you caught me fiddling with it

ill find something else to occupy me for a bit :)

Oh well! I still cannot checkout so I am going to end my attempt to try and troubleshoot for you. Perhaps, you only ship to Australian residents and since my address is a US address I am getting stuck on the shipping page. If you want to provide me an australian address via pm, I can perhaps change my address to that an retest if I get a chance.
4 Apr 2007, 11:01 PM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Doh! I completely forgot about that, I'm sorry I'm not usually so frustrating to help.

Please try with this login:

user: stuff@fleshmetal.com.au
pass: testflesh

Thanks
4 Apr 2007, 11:13 PM
Zinfandel

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Dreamscape,

I'm going to take this opportunity to say that you have the patience of a saint. Thank you, and kudos to people like you.

I recently started a second site using ZC, and used the same the download file of the SEO URL mod as I did before. I believe it was the defunct v2.103.:frusty:

Needless to say, it doesn't work and I've moved on with the SEO URL's mod disabled.

I've spent all afternoon reading this thread and learned that V3.x was almost ready, a few days ago. I'm already at the edge of my seat with glee.

I'm going to develop on localhost until I'm happy, and then I'll never modify the site again. It's just to easy to $crew things up.
I'm not going to compete with all the PHP experts and offer up something I know nothing about; and so I do need to ask...

is it soup yet?

Where can I find it?
Will this be all I need to do to get the mod to reinstall itself after I paste the files into the appropriate folders?

Code:

DELETE FROM configuration_group WHERE configuration_group_title LIKE 'Seo Url%'; DELETE FROM configuration WHERE configuration_key LIKE 'SEO_URLS%';

Thanks for all of your efforts. It's good Karma.
~Zin

...and awaaaaaay!
5 Apr 2007, 09:01 AM
ryhn

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Check page 53 in this thread for the 3.0.0 beta1 d/l:
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=523

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinfandel

Dreamscape,

I'm going to take this opportunity to say that you have the patience of a saint. Thank you, and kudos to people like you.

I recently started a second site using ZC, and used the same the download file of the SEO URL mod as I did before. I believe it was the defunct v2.103.:frusty:

Needless to say, it doesn't work and I've moved on with the SEO URL's mod disabled.

I've spent all afternoon reading this thread and learned that V3.x was almost ready, a few days ago. I'm already at the edge of my seat with glee.

I'm going to develop on localhost until I'm happy, and then I'll never modify the site again. It's just to easy to $crew things up.
I'm not going to compete with all the PHP experts and offer up something I know nothing about; and so I do need to ask...

is it soup yet?

Where can I find it?
Will this be all I need to do to get the mod to reinstall itself after I paste the files into the appropriate folders?

Code:

DELETE FROM configuration_group WHERE configuration_group_title LIKE 'Seo Url%'; DELETE FROM configuration WHERE configuration_key LIKE 'SEO_URLS%';

Thanks for all of your efforts. It's good Karma.
~Zin

...and awaaaaaay!
5 Apr 2007, 03:29 PM
Zinfandel

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Check page 53 in this thread for the 3.0.0 beta1 d/l:
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=523

Thanks Ryhn,

That's the post!
I ended up going back to that post and downloading the mod. I basically read the install instructions; and will give it a whirl tonight, after my day job.

Won't quit my day job. :no:

I am feeling a little more educated, and a bit more optimistic, ha!

Thanks again.
Have a great weekend and Happy Easter everybody!!
~Zin.
6 Apr 2007, 06:53 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Doh! I completely forgot about that, I'm sorry I'm not usually so frustrating to help.

Please try with this login:

user: stuff@fleshmetal.com.au
pass: testflesh

Thanks

Are you sure your Paypal IPN is configured right both on ZC Admin side as well as Paypal?

Do you meet these two requirements?

**Port 80 is used for bidirectional communication with the gateway, so must be open on your host's router/firewall
*PHP allow_url_fopen() must be enabled
6 Apr 2007, 03:36 PM
unifex

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

How can i use german special Character?
6 Apr 2007, 07:49 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

Doh! I completely forgot about that, I'm sorry I'm not usually so frustrating to help.

Please try with this login:

user: stuff@fleshmetal.com.au
pass: testflesh

Thanks

Have you applied any of these Zen Cart patches to your Paypal IPN http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56216 ?
6 Apr 2007, 08:49 PM
FrenchFrog

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Hi Everyone.

Could you confirm that your rewritten urls have a ".html" suffix?

I got the mod working just fine, I'm just not sure if it's how it's supposed to rewrite the urls, as I can see

Code:

RewriteRule ^(.*)-p-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L] RewriteRule ^(.*)-c-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L]

in the htaccess file, but all my rewritten urls have no suffix at all....
And don't know if this can have an imapact on the engines?

Let me know your thoughts
6 Apr 2007, 11:09 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchFrog

Hi Everyone.

Could you confirm that your rewritten urls have a ".html" suffix?

I got the mod working just fine, I'm just not sure if it's how it's supposed to rewrite the urls, as I can see

Code:

RewriteRule ^(.*)-p-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L] RewriteRule ^(.*)-c-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L]

in the htaccess file, but all my rewritten urls have no suffix at all....
And don't know if this can have an imapact on the engines?

Let me know your thoughts

This is controlled by the default extension setting under Admin-configurations-se0 beta 3.0. If you select .html and you used to have version 2.103 then the old rewrite rule you need in your .htaccess is for ezpages as documented in the guide.
7 Apr 2007, 12:45 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

Are you sure your Paypal IPN is configured right both on ZC Admin side as well as Paypal?

Do you meet these two requirements?

**Port 80 is used for bidirectional communication with the gateway, so must be open on your host's router/firewall
*PHP allow_url_fopen() must be enabled

The Paypal IPN works 100% without the module turned one. I'll switch if off again so you can see what happens.

Phpinfo confirms the allow_url_fopen is swtiched on, and I don't know how to test if port 80 is bidirectional, but as it works without the mod I guess it is on? Correct me if thats not a fair assumption and I'll have a deeper look into it.

Thanks
7 Apr 2007, 12:51 AM
FrenchFrog

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

This is controlled by the default extension setting under Admin-configurations-se0 beta 3.0. If you select .html and you used to have version 2.103 then the old rewrite rule you need in your .htaccess is for ezpages as documented in the guide.

arf ! I missed that one in the settings of my 3.0.
I'm all good now.
Thanks a bunch!
7 Apr 2007, 01:14 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

The Paypal IPN works 100% without the module turned one. I'll switch if off again so you can see what happens.

Phpinfo confirms the allow_url_fopen is swtiched on, and I don't know how to test if port 80 is bidirectional, but as it works without the mod I guess it is on? Correct me if thats not a fair assumption and I'll have a deeper look into it.

Thanks

1. Can you switch your template to the default template and test your checkout process?

2. If that still doesn't work I will reinstall SEO URL mod. Perhaps there is a file missing/corrupted in your current installation.
7 Apr 2007, 03:30 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

I tried the current build and the current build+fixes in the default template, all errors are still there :(

Thanks for your help, I guess I'll have to drop it till the next build is released and try again ?
7 Apr 2007, 04:06 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

I tried the current build and the current build+fixes in the default template, all errors are still there :(

Thanks for your help, I guess I'll have to drop it till the next build is released and try again ?

It's very strange because you are the ONLY one experiencing this issue. All the other known PayPal issues are not related to this and there are work arounds for each of them.

Something obviously is messed up with your seo url mod installation (since your site works when it's disable). Well, you can wait for the next release (hopefully you wont have to wait too long).
8 Apr 2007, 12:55 AM
ghostcorps

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

I'll keep fiddling with it, but I've no idea where to start looking. The cart itself is just about virgin, its not an upgrade except for the db, which I dont think should have any effect. There are a few mods, but the Aust post module is the only truly invasive one, the others are aesthetic like IH2 or the grid mod then theres the the google site map and froogle feeder neither of which overwrite any shop files.

Can u show me the best .htaccess? I've seen a few around and figure that might be the go.

thanks
8 Apr 2007, 03:43 AM
SophWise.com

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Howdy,

I meant to chime in on this one earlier, but had other things come up. I also had a few show stoppers with it too, in relation to Paypal, not to mention the EZ Pages problems I had and the Non-object error I had to workaround.

When SEO was turned on, PayPal would just come up with a blank screen when you click that link at checkout. The PayPal express just forwarded to the IPN handler.

Also, with the SEO mod installed, I could browse through products, and go through clicking to add products to cart, and at most times only 7 out of 10 of those add to cart clicks would actually make their way to adding the product to the shopping cart.

I also have a few home-brew mods that I have written, a custom search engine routine, and all those died with the rewrite on. I hate doing regex's, and didn't feel like the learning curve to do a URL plugin for them, so I just opted to remove the whole SEO mod.

My traffic breakdown is:

In-Person (80%)
Online Advertising - AdWords/AdBright (19%)
Search Engines (%1)

So I just figured I'd save myself a headache and ditch the SEO URLs completely.

I already have enough on my plate without adding more. Though I must say I really did like the pretty URLs and category/product names showing up in Sawmill reports.

Wes
8 Apr 2007, 09:52 AM
kimsonvu

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

40% of my customer from google,yahoo,aol.They are wholesale customer and i think SEO is better for our company website.With Seo,my company have good page rank,better keyworld possion,more and more.....
Thanks for addon.

:hug:
9 Apr 2007, 05:05 PM
Rupert

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Kimsonvu,
Just a note, this will not affect your pagerank. Page rank is determined by links into your site... and can take months before it shows.

It does not (as far as I am aware) make the site much more "crawlable" by the S/E's anymore.

It is worth noting to those who doubt it makes a difference, that Google has SEO friendly URLs, and differnent titles and meta discriptions for each and every page.
9 Apr 2007, 05:18 PM
immunecology

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by SophWise.com

Howdy,

I meant to chime in on this one earlier, but had other things come up. I also had a few show stoppers with it too, in relation to Paypal, not to mention the EZ Pages problems I had and the Non-object error I had to workaround.

When SEO was turned on, PayPal would just come up with a blank screen when you click that link at checkout. The PayPal express just forwarded to the IPN handler.

Also, with the SEO mod installed, I could browse through products, and go through clicking to add products to cart, and at most times only 7 out of 10 of those add to cart clicks would actually make their way to adding the product to the shopping cart.

I also have a few home-brew mods that I have written, a custom search engine routine, and all those died with the rewrite on. I hate doing regex's, and didn't feel like the learning curve to do a URL plugin for them, so I just opted to remove the whole SEO mod.

My traffic breakdown is:

In-Person (80%)
Online Advertising - AdWords/AdBright (19%)
Search Engines (%1)

So I just figured I'd save myself a headache and ditch the SEO URLs completely.

Wes

Just a thought. If you ditch the module cause it's got problems, why not post the specifics of them at the bug report site so the developer can be working on them between now and when you come back to look? The more feedback the developer gets, the sooner the mod will become stable and reliable.
9 Apr 2007, 07:39 PM
SophWise.com

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

I had posted the problems that I encountered into the tracker. I think only one or two problems didn't get posted, and that was only because I don't even have the time to gather enough info to post.

All problems aside, its a great mod, but just not for me at this time.
10 Apr 2007, 07:31 AM
ghostcorps

The eternal question

So... I have all but given up on this mod, not cos the mod is deficient (AFAIK) but cos I a) Can't figure the propper settings or b) Have broken something (very likley) that I can't figure out. (I havn't touched much at all) The result being, as mentioned in my posts, the paypal IPN sende the customer to paypals homepage.

Be that as it may, I'd like to reopen the age old discussion: 'Do SEFUs make a differance'.

I know the standard 'not anymore' argument, and I wish I was convinced. I've been playing with my meta tags and notice that the following spider simulator can/does not find any text in the page body without the SEFU mod

http://tools.summitmedia.co.uk/spider/

This only drops me by 2% acording to the site, but when I go to poodle predictor gritechnologies.com/tools/spider.go It can't even locate any links without it! I expect this is just cos its an old site... but still issues like that are bound to effect the rating arn't they?
10 Apr 2007, 09:54 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: The eternal question

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostcorps

So... I have all but given up on this mod, not cos the mod is deficient (AFAIK) but cos I a) Can't figure the propper settings or b) Have broken something (very likley) that I can't figure out. (I havn't touched much at all) The result being, as mentioned in my posts, the paypal IPN sende the customer to paypals homepage.

Be that as it may, I'd like to reopen the age old discussion: 'Do SEFUs make a differance'.

I know the standard 'not anymore' argument, and I wish I was convinced. I've been playing with my meta tags and notice that the following spider simulator can/does not find any text in the page body without the SEFU mod

http://tools.summitmedia.co.uk/spider/

This only drops me by 2% acording to the site, but when I go to poodle predictor gritechnologies.com/tools/spider.go It can't even locate any links without it! I expect this is just cos its an old site... but still issues like that are bound to effect the rating arn't they?

Like you rightly pointed out...there are sites doing millions of dollars in sales using Zen Cart without any SEO URL mod installed.

The SEO url makes the most significant improvement for MSN search engine because that engine's is so behind Google and Yahoo and still adopts methods that make SEO url useful. The main SE can easily crawl Zen Cart sites.

Everybody agrees that SEO url looks nice to the customer on your site and it looks likes as well in search results. Even if it doesn't improve your ranking, it will make the search engine crawl less problematic.

All this assumption is based on an installation of production worthy SEO URL NOT a beta version that has bugs and is deemed not production ready even by the author.

IF and when a production version of this mod is release it maybe worth your time but for right now save yourself the headaches unless you're installing it so you can help beta test this mod to make it better.
10 Apr 2007, 02:43 PM
ghostcorps

Re: The eternal question

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

Everybody agrees that SEO url looks nice to the customer on your site and it looks likes as well in search results. Even if it doesn't improve your ranking, it will make the search engine crawl less problematic.
...
IF and when a production version of this mod is release it maybe worth your time but for right now save yourself the headaches unless you're installing it so you can help beta test this mod to make it better.

I reeeally like the pretty urls, to be honest probably moreso than the ranking :)

As for testing, I'd love to figure out my issue but its not urgent.

=^_^=
13 Apr 2007, 07:07 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Is there anyone out there that have this mod working with the following setting:

Paypal Express is installed and enabled.
Default Extension is set to .html
Core: Default: Skip SSL is unchecked

If you have this mod working with the above setting please post a site to see this in action.

Thanks!
14 Apr 2007, 07:42 PM
lina0962

Urgent help needed for Ultimate SEO URL's!!

Hello,

I followed every instruction to intall Unimate SEO files onto my server. Then the site is completely down. The error information is like this"

1054 Unknown column 'c.parent_id' in 'on clause'
in:
[SELECT c.categories_id as id, c.parent_id, cd.categories_name as cName, cd2.categories_name as pName FROM categories c, categories_description cd LEFT JOIN categories_description cd2 ON c.parent_id=cd2.categories_id AND cd2.language_id='1' WHERE c.categories_id=cd.categories_id AND cd.language_id='1']

When I deleted the include/auto_loaers/configure.ultimate.seo.php, the site came back as normal. Why? What is the problem? How should I fix it?

On my .htaccess file, I have this:

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^.loveinrose\.com [nc]
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.loveinrose.com/$1 [R=301,L]

Is this right? Please check my site www.loveinrose.com. Thank you for help!!
15 Apr 2007, 12:47 AM
freerangepc

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Hey great! I never got this to work on my old site but I followed the very clear instructions up until the part that said 'to be added'. Course being a bit dim, it took me a while to realise I had to switch all the core switches to on :)

But thanks I have wanted to use this for ages, If I can get it installed, with my monsterous template and god only knows what else I have lurking inside, anyone can!
15 Apr 2007, 01:30 AM
lina0962

Strange things happend after I install SEO 3.0

Hello, Masters of SEO:

I just intalled new SEO 3.0 onto my site. Strange things happend:

When you go to my site www.loveinrose.com, no matter you click on "site map", "contact us", "privacy", they all just stay in the home page. Obviously the URL doen't redirect correctly...

Here are my html-output.php

PHP Code:

/** * Seo Urls zen_href_link replacement */ function zen_href_link($page = '', $parameters = '', $connection = 'NONSSL', $add_session_id = true, $search_engine_safe = true, $static = false, $use_dir_ws_catalog = true) { return $GLOBALS['SeoUrl']->buildHrefLink($page, $parameters, $connection, $add_session_id, $static, $use_dir_ws_catalog); } /* * The HTML href link wrapper function */ function zen_href_link_stock($page = '', $parameters = '', $connection = 'NONSSL', $add_session_id = true, $search_engine_safe = true, $static = false, $use_dir_ws_catalog = true) { global $request_type, $session_started, $http_domain, $https_domain;

And here are my .htaccess file.

PHP Code:

##### NOTE: Replace /shop/ with the relative web path of your catalog in the "Rewrite Base" line below: Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine Off RewriteBase / # Seo Urls version 3.x # Don't rewrite real files or directories RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php?seo_url=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L]

Any problem? Please check my site www.loveinrose.com to see what I mean.
15 Apr 2007, 07:47 AM
focus360

How to stop indexing of pop up images

Searched, searched and searched for the answer to this.

I have been trying to stop google indexing my pop up images when using Ultimate URL's.

i.e. Google is indexing http://www.mysite.com/productname-pi-productnumber.html

It is easy to stop this if Ultimate SEOs is not implemented, by adding popup_image,popup_image_additional in the metatags.php file under ROBOTS_PAGES_TO_SKIP.

Can this be stopped when Ultimate SEOs is implemented? It is obviously critical for SEO as the pop up image is a dead link, which is bad!

Anybody know how to fix this?

Thanks: :frusty:
15 Apr 2007, 10:38 PM
lina0962

Problem with SEO 3.0

Hello.

After I followed the PHF file of guide and intalled SEO 3.0 onto my server, I noticed several problems on my site:

PHP Code:

http://www.loveinrose.com/index.php?=site_map, http://www.loveinrose.com/index.php?=about_us, http://www.loveinrose.com/index.php?=contact_us, http://www.loveinrose.com/index.php?=privacy...

All become

PHP Code:

http://www.loveinrose.com (the home page)

For any page who originally is, for example,

PHP Code:

http://www.loveinrose.com/index.php?=page&id=11&chapter=0,

It become

PHP Code:

http://www.loveinrose.com/?id=11&chapter=0

And doesn't show the right page or product.

This is my .htaccess page:

PHP Code:

RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / # Seo Urls version 3.x # Don't rewrite real files or directories RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php/$1 [L,QSA]

Can anybody point out where is wrong? Thank you!
16 Apr 2007, 12:13 AM
freerangepc

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Have you switched all the switches on the admin side? The URL plug ins?
16 Apr 2007, 03:44 PM
FrenchFrog

Re: How to stop indexing of pop up images

Quote:

Originally Posted by focus360

Searched, searched and searched for the answer to this.

I have been trying to stop google indexing my pop up images when using Ultimate URL's.

i.e. Google is indexing http://www.mysite.com/productname-pi-productnumber.html

It is easy to stop this if Ultimate SEOs is not implemented, by adding popup_image,popup_image_additional in the metatags.php file under ROBOTS_PAGES_TO_SKIP.

Can this be stopped when Ultimate SEOs is implemented? It is obviously critical for SEO as the pop up image is a dead link, which is bad!

Anybody know how to fix this?

Thanks: :frusty:

You might be interested in the following:

1) in the robots.txt file that should be in your root, add

Code:

User-agent: Googlebot-Image Disallow: /

This will disallow google images to index all the images of your sites.
All your pages will still be indexed though

2) in your .htacess file, add the following:

Code:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://images.google.com$ [NC] RewriteRule !^403.htm$ - [F,L] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://images.search.yahoo.com$ [NC] RewriteRule !^403.htm$ - [F,L]

this will prevent anybody accessing your site from google image to see your site
16 Apr 2007, 04:07 PM
chris20492002

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

hi what is the latest version of the SEO mod and where can I get it?
21 Apr 2007, 10:01 PM
jonisolis

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris20492002

hi what is the latest version of the SEO mod and where can I get it?

Does it work with EZ pages and where can I view a working site that is using it with the EZ pages and the lastest Zen Cart? I have this SEO mod installed but it doesn't seem to be working for my EZ pages. Is that something I am missing?

EZ page...
Portfolio - http://www.horse-logos.com/index.php...id=3&chapter=0

Thanks!
23 Apr 2007, 04:43 PM
Stenrique

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Hi, I have installed both seo_urls_3.0.0-beta1.zip & SEO_fixes_for_3.0.0.b1.zip and my settings are:

Code:

Seo Urls Status On 301 Redirection Status On Page Base Default Extension Url Plugins Core: Manufacturer, Core: Advanced Search, Core: Product: Reviews: Info, Core: Product: Reviews: Write, Core: Advanced Search: Result, Core: Default: Skip SSL, Core: EZ Pages, Core: Category, Core: Default, Core: Product, Core: Default Skips, Core: Product: Reviews Character Plugins Format: Strip Invalid, Format: Lowercase

My .htaccess file is as follows:

Code:

Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / # Seo Urls version 3.x # Don't rewrite real files or directories RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php?seo_url=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L] # This will disallow google images to index all the images of your sites. # All your pages will still be indexed though RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://images.google.com$ [NC] RewriteRule !^403.htm$ - [F,L] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://images.search.yahoo.com$ [NC] RewriteRule !^403.htm$ - [F,L]

I'm just wondering if anyone has encountered the following in their URL:

mysite.com/gift-certificates-c-57
mysite.com/gift-certificate-p-680

apparently the letter "c" stands for category while "p" stands for product, and the numbers are their ID. Any advise on how to remove these trailing letter-number pair?
23 Apr 2007, 05:53 PM
tvadpro

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

If you removed the category and product identifiers from the URL entirely, how would the index distinguish between categories, subcategories and products with the same name?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stenrique

I'm just wondering if anyone has encountered the following in their URL:

mysite.com/gift-certificates-c-57
mysite.com/gift-certificate-p-680

apparently the letter "c" stands for category while "p" stands for product, and the numbers are their ID. Any advise on how to remove these trailing letter-number pair?
23 Apr 2007, 07:03 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stenrique

Hi, I have installed both seo_urls_3.0.0-beta1.zip & SEO_fixes_for_3.0.0.b1.zip and my settings are:

Code:

Seo Urls Status On 301 Redirection Status On Page Base Default Extension Url Plugins Core: Manufacturer, Core: Advanced Search, Core: Product: Reviews: Info, Core: Product: Reviews: Write, Core: Advanced Search: Result, Core: Default: Skip SSL, Core: EZ Pages, Core: Category, Core: Default, Core: Product, Core: Default Skips, Core: Product: Reviews Character Plugins Format: Strip Invalid, Format: Lowercase

My .htaccess file is as follows:

Code:

Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / # Seo Urls version 3.x # Don't rewrite real files or directories RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index\.php?seo_url=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L] # This will disallow google images to index all the images of your sites. # All your pages will still be indexed though RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://images.google.com$ [NC] RewriteRule !^403.htm$ - [F,L] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://images.search.yahoo.com$ [NC] RewriteRule !^403.htm$ - [F,L]

I'm just wondering if anyone has encountered the following in their URL:

mysite.com/gift-certificates-c-57
mysite.com/gift-certificate-p-680

apparently the letter "c" stands for category while "p" stands for product, and the numbers are their ID. Any advise on how to remove these trailing letter-number pair?

That's standard behavior of the mod. You will also notice different letters for reviews, product image when enlarged, etc. IF this is the only issue you have with this mod, enjoy it! Some of us haven't been able to get this working without breaking.
24 Apr 2007, 08:32 AM
Stenrique

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

That's standard behavior of the mod. You will also notice different letters for reviews, product image when enlarged, etc. IF this is the only issue you have with this mod, enjoy it! Some of us haven't been able to get this working without breaking.

And there I was thinking that I have stuff up somehow. Will test further though. Thank you BlessIsaacola and Dreamscape, you guys rock. :clap:
24 Apr 2007, 10:29 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stenrique

And there I was thinking that I have stuff up somehow. Will test further though. Thank you BlessIsaacola and Dreamscape, you guys rock. :clap:

You're welcome! If you have SSL installed and you're using an extension i.e. .html for your generated url, you want to make sure you test all your payment options. Paypal Express Checkout is the only one that I am aware of that doesn't work.
24 Apr 2007, 03:33 PM
jonisolis

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Asking once again:

Does it work with EZ pages and where can I view a working site that is using it with the EZ pages and the lastest Zen Cart? I have this SEO mod installed but it doesn't seem to be working for my EZ pages. Is there something I am missing?

EZ page...
Portfolio - http://www.horse-logos.com/index.php...id=3&chapter=0

Thanks!
24 Apr 2007, 05:00 PM
tvadpro

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Works with EZ pages. See my hardware catalog -- note EZ-page links in the footer, e.g. About HardwareDog. ZC version 1.3.7.

Suggestion: if your EZ-pages related problem isn't already addressed in the 3.0.0 beta1 bug tracker, definitely submit a bug report there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonisolis

Does it work with EZ pages and where can I view a working site that is using it with the EZ pages and the lastest Zen Cart? I have this SEO mod installed but it doesn't seem to be working for my EZ pages.
24 Apr 2007, 05:57 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

It works fine with EZpages but I am yet to see a site where this works with Paypal Express Checkout when skip SSL pages is unchecked or checked and using any default extension but blank.
24 Apr 2007, 09:24 PM
Rupert

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Works Ok with paypal express for me, and ezpages:
see here www.eshopone.co.uk
Not got any issues I can tel yet.
25 Apr 2007, 02:15 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert

Works Ok with paypal express for me, and ezpages:
see here www.eshopone.co.uk
Not got any issues I can tel yet.

Obviously, you did not read my whole post. You do not have default extension so it works. If you have a default extension like .html it doesn't work. If you try it with extension and it works please let us know. Thanks!
25 Apr 2007, 03:40 AM
rcrosier

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

Obviously, you did not read my whole post. You do not have default extension so it works. If you have a default extension like .html it doesn't work. If you try it with extension and it works please let us know. Thanks!

I don't THINK I have Paypal express, but I DO have Paypal, and default (.html) extensions, and it's been working fine for me for a couple months now. (http://vtstuff.com) Skip SSL is CHECKED on mine.

Not sure if that helps, or is totally irrelevant.
25 Apr 2007, 04:47 AM
ctcentralinfo

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

So is Dreamscape working an the next upgrade of the mod?
25 Apr 2007, 06:17 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcrosier

I don't THINK I have Paypal express, but I DO have Paypal, and default (.html) extensions, and it's been working fine for me for a couple months now. (http://vtstuff.com) Skip SSL is CHECKED on mine.

Not sure if that helps, or is totally irrelevant.

Thank you so much! That help to confirm my experience. Paypal IPN works for me too but there must be something with Paypal Express logic that is causing problem. I know that DrByte has upgraded paypal express quiet a bit. Oh well!
25 Apr 2007, 07:30 AM
Rupert

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Ah, OK. Misunderstood.
don't used html then. Why would you?
There is a secret ingredient in using a / ...
A s/e thinks each page is an index file.
25 Apr 2007, 07:39 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert

Ah, OK. Misunderstood.
don't used html then. Why would you?
There is a secret ingredient in using a / ...
A s/e thinks each page is an index file.

The reason I was trying to maintain the .html extension is because we have more than 20,000 pages indexed already with the .html extension using the old ultimate seo url.

I know I could use a 301 redirect but because I am not sure about the viability of this mod, I'd hate to rewrite all indexed pages, change my mind and I have to rewrite again.

We are currently redirecting all old pages with .html to standard zen cart url since we already uninstall this mod.

Thanks!
25 Apr 2007, 08:27 AM
samad64

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessIsaacola

We are currently redirecting all old pages with .html to standard zen cart url since we already uninstall this mod.

Thanks!

I'm sorry if you've already posted this elsewhere in the thread.. but do you mind sharing the entries in your htaccess file for that? Is it on a product by product basis? i would think with the amount of products you have that would be a PITA. I'm thinking about uninstalling ultimate SEO (still on 2.103) since i've had a few issues with it that i just can't keep using work arounds for
25 Apr 2007, 09:22 AM
Rupert

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

ouch, see your point.
25 Apr 2007, 10:46 AM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by samad64

I'm sorry if you've already posted this elsewhere in the thread.. but do you mind sharing the entries in your htaccess file for that? Is it on a product by product basis? i would think with the amount of products you have that would be a PITA. I'm thinking about uninstalling ultimate SEO (still on 2.103) since i've had a few issues with it that i just can't keep using work arounds for

Here is the code to redirect the pages to original Zen Cart. I have pasted the code for Tim's SEFU as well as different other mods. If there is any that you do not have install, delete that path. There is also a line for redirecting music product type because we modified that with the pmi. Please not that this is to remove version 2.103 as you requested.

Code:

Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / # BEGIN SAFE REMOVE of Tim Kroeger's SEFU RewriteRule ^(.*)pages-main/category-(.*)/page-([0-9]+)/sort-(.*)/(.*).html index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&page=$3&sort=$4&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteRule ^(.*)pages-main/category-(.*)/(.*).html index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteRule ^(.*)pages-productinfo/category-(.*)/product-(.*)/(.*).html index\.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=$2&products_id=$3&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteRule ^(.*)pages-productinfo/product-(.*)/(.*).html index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteRule ^(.*)pages-product_reviews_info/product-(.*)/reviews_id-([0-9]+)/(.*).html index\.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=$2&reviews_id=$3&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteRule ^(.*)pages-info_manager/pages_id-([0-9]+)/(.*).html index\.php?main_page=info_manager&pages_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteRule ^(.*)pages-product_music_info/product-(.*)/(.*).html index\.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] RewriteRule ^(.*)pages-(.*)/index.html index\.php?main_page=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [L,R=301] # END SAFE REMOVE # From Ultimate SEO URLs version 2 RewriteRule ^(.*)-p-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^(.*)-c-(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&cPath=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^(.*)-m-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^(.*)-pi-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^(.*)-pr-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^(.*)-pri-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^(.*)-pmi-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] # For Open Operations Info Manager RewriteRule ^(.*)-i-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=info_manager&pages_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] # For dreamscape's News & Articles Manager RewriteRule ^news/?$ index\.php?main_page=news&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^news/rss.xml$ index\.php?main_page=news_rss&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^news/archive/?$ index\.php?main_page=news_archive&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^news/([0-9]{4})-([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{2}).html$ index\.php?main_page=news&date=$1-$2-$3&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^news/archive/([0-9]{4})-([0-9]{2}).html$ index\.php?main_page=news_archive&date=$1-$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^news/(.*)-a-([0-9]+)-comments.html$ index\.php?main_page=news_comments&article_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] RewriteRule ^news/(.*)-a-([0-9]+).html$ index\.php?main_page=news_article&article_id=$2&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L] # All other pages # Don't rewrite real files or directories RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [NC] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.*).html$ index\.php?main_page=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [R=301,L]

If you need the rewrite rule for removing beta 3.0, things are slightly different.
25 Apr 2007, 11:34 PM
birdoasis

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Trying to go through this thread for anyone new is a nightmare.
Is there anyone that can break this down to a step by step, or at least the best thread number to start with?

Thanks.

JP
25 Apr 2007, 11:46 PM
BlessIsaacola

Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdoasis

Trying to go through this thread for anyone new is a nightmare.
Is there anyone that can break this down to a step by step, or at least the best thread number to start with?

Thanks.

JP

It depends on what you're trying to do. If you follow the guide from the download exactly as instructed to install it, then apply the patches provided, you should be fine. If things don't work, you can come back here for solution. Dreamscape is very good with documentation. Although, the guide included is not fully complete it's a good place to start.
26 Apr 2007, 01:00 AM
birdoasis

Is this the correct link?

Ok great. I searched for dreamscape in this thread and found the link, but since it was truncated it didn't quite work. so I deleted it and then clicked in the link that matched what I'm looking for and found this.

http://www.dream-scape.com/pub/zenca...mate_SEO_URLs/

Hopefully it won't truncate again. However is this the correct link???

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