Simple and Easy 2 Question Create Account Page

[pricediscrimination]

Been a while since I've mucked around wth that aspect, but n a way, yeah that is something that can be done.. Need to also consider the minimum requirements n the configuration>minimum values secton, as some/most of those fields are checked against that nformation. Otherwise search the plugns... I used the search word of logn, so may try a different word... Also, may still go to the thread for thatplugin to see if others were n the same situaton trying to do the same thing and how they handled it.

Searched all the plugins, nothing. Just "All Products Virtual -- No Shipping" which will go beyond what I need since I need shipping. Also doesn't seem to be a thread for that one.

So I went to hack tpl_modules_create_account.php - edited out all of the create account fields not needed. You're right, also needed to change all other minimum requirements to 0. Almost there! The only thing preventing it from working is the following message:

Please choose a salutation.
You must select a country from the Countries pull down menu.

Now I am also concerned that they might checkout without updating the address. So I would need a way to direct them to their address book when trying to checkout. But hey, one thing at a time, right?

[mc12345678]

Check the header_php.php file for that page.if not mistaken it contans the validaton check for those items...

As for the back end, that's a separate process/check.can still use COWOA at that point as well... Cart won't allow purchase of an item requirng shipping without a shipping address...

[pricediscrimination]

Check the header_php.php file for that page.if not mistaken it contans the validaton check for those items...

As for the back end, that's a separate process/check.can still use COWOA at that point as well... Cart won't allow purchase of an item requirng shipping without a shipping address...

Thank you, trying COWOA for the shipping info during checkout.

In the meantime, the validation check for those items is not in pages > login (or reate_account) > header_php.php

I tried to remove and anything related to country and nothing got rid of the "You must select a country from the Countries pull down menu."

[mc12345678]

Thank you, trying COWOA for the shipping info during checkout.

In the meantime, the validation check for those items is not in pages > login (or reate_account) > header_php.php

I tried to remove and anything related to country and nothing got rid of the "You must select a country from the Countries pull down menu."

That is probably from the code in includes/modules/create_account.php and effectively controlled by the admin configuration -> Customer Details -> State option...

I wouldn't necessarily suggest commenting it all out, but may need to apply some sort of logic to prevent its display/consideration for the evolution you are trying to affect, but not to affect say the automatic account creation through other processes... Or, worst case, they are presented with that information as is...

Dunno. :)

If going to modify that file, please do yourself a favor and copy it into your template override folder: includes/modules/YOUR_TEMPLATE/create_account.php

This same/similar action should have been done with all of those other edits made above. Sorry didn't state sooner... If not copied originally, then would suggest copying those edited files to the template override directory (No override for includes/modules/pages files), then restore the original files in the applicable "core" location.

[pricediscrimination]

Simple registration is something that was brought up in another post 7 years ago. This comment hits the nail on the head:

I'd really like to see Zen have a more flexible registration routine. Asking the customer for so much info up front was causing many of them to turn away.

I love ZC and am very thankful for being able to do amazing things with it. But sometimes the thinking behind it seems stuck in the Internet of 7 years ago - which makes me sad/worried about the future of the software. In 2015, hardly any site asks 12+ questions for registration. It is important for marketing and growing a customer base to have fast email/pw only registration.

If we can find a solution in this thread, I believe it will help others who are hoping to actually grow their business. As it stands, the stock registration page is doing more harm than good.

[mc12345678]

That's why as you have pointed out that the stock template is not expected to be used...

All of the available features are presented. Just because they are there does not mean that they need/should be used... Each store has it's own needs. For a site I manage I don't even encourage people to use the create path, but instead to smply go through checkout as the data needed is collected that way...


The path taken for the referenced site requires some form of interaction out of the gate, so yes for someone to venture to see what there is to offer, they want to provide as little as possible, if anything at all...

[pricediscrimination]

Hello everyone, I have still been trying to figure this out and desperately need to bump this thread and kindly ask for another set of eyes to help find a solution.

[DivaVocals]

Simple registration is something that was brought up in another post 7 years ago. This comment hits the nail on the head:



I love ZC and am very thankful for being able to do amazing things with it. But sometimes the thinking behind it seems stuck in the Internet of 7 years ago - which makes me sad/worried about the future of the software. In 2015, hardly any site asks 12+ questions for registration. It is important for marketing and growing a customer base to have fast email/pw only registration.

If we can find a solution in this thread, I believe it will help others who are hoping to actually grow their business. As it stands, the stock registration page is doing more harm than good.

I think what needs to be made CLEAR for others stumbling upon this thread is that what is being asked for here is more of membership type of setup.. Granted it's a FREE membership, but the point is that unlike a TRADITIONAL e-commerce setup a customer account is REQUIRED to view the store or do any shopping.. The OP is looking for minimal account details for creating the customer account in that certain details are REQUIRED to create an account.

Should the customer decide to make a purchase the information required for walking through the purchase workflow is required at the time of the checkout..

Before making this about Zen Cart's age, I wanted to add that Zen Cart's basic checkout flow follows a "standard" flow that most other ecommerce systems follow.. I don't think this alternate workflow being discussed here is an "out-the-box" workflow setup for ANY e-commerce bundle out there.. (happy to be proven wrong if anyone has different information on this)

lat9 has point out the what is required to achieve the OPs objective and mc12345678 seems to have provided the how to achieve the OPs objectiv.. I just wanted to pop in to add this little note to make sure the WHY was adequately covered as well..

[pricediscrimination]

I think what needs to be made CLEAR for others stumbling upon this thread is that what is being asked for here is more of membership type of setup.. Granted it's a FREE membership, but the point is that unlike a TRADITIONAL e-commerce setup a customer account is REQUIRED to do any shopping..

This is how almost any modern eCommerce site works now. You'll be hard-pressed to find a shopping site that asks for all details when creating an account. Account creation flow is basically contact info/email list. Purchasing is billing/shipping info.

With all due respect, not sure how much online shopping Zen cart users do, because comments like this make it sound like no one has been a customer of an eCommerce store in the past 5 years.

As brought up in another thread. This is Zen Cart's problem. It's stuck in eCommerce of 10 years ago. Things ARE different NOW.


https://www.brooklynboot.com/register

https://www.thetiebar.com/profile-create

https://login.rosegal.com/m-users-a-sign.htm

https://www.lulus.com/login.html

https://www.cufflinks.com/customer/account/create/

https://############.com/ap/register

https://www.forever21.com/EU/Login/L...f21&lang=en-US


Do I have to keep going?

So let's make it CLEAR for others stumbling upon this threat that what's being asked for here is more of a MODERN day eCommerce site. And that if you are new to ZC, just know that NO ONE is going to sign up for your site if you're asking for their entire life story in your registration form. Name/email/password, that's all they will want to (and are accustomed to) give you.