Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

[xplosiv]

Does anybody know if this works for 1.3.9?

[SPH]

Does anybody know if this works for 1.3.9?

Yes, it does*. It's on my seo url site here:

http://www.fashion-mart.biz/

But don't know if it will be upgraded for the new 1.5 zencart.

Found out other day that the Ultimate SEO has been upgraded to 1.5:

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=134

I'm going to test it on my 1.5 test site.

sph
www.prommart.com
www.fashion-mart.biz


*At one point I had a problem with the back button on pages such as Contact Us, Conditions, etc. Especially inconvenient if customer is on page 2 of checkout, goes to conditions, then cannot return via the pages' backbutton (not to be confused with browser's back button). But somehow it now works completely.

[mydanilo]

I would not go with Ultimate SEo, SSU WAS much better in many aspects other than that nobody will or can update it. If somebody tackles it I would be gladly pay if it had to become a paid mod.

As mentioned before, we need a SEO implementation that is going to be carried forward with every ZEN release. I just has to become core at one point. Like every other CMS and most Ecommerce systems these days. It is frustrating to hear over and over again that they are really not needed. Well, we user want it. Our customers like to see pretty url's, search engines seem to at least like them equally well too. There is so much in ZenCart but this one got to be in it. Sorry, had to vent a bit.

[DivaVocals]

I would not go with Ultimate SEo, SSU WAS much better in many aspects other than that nobody will or can update it. If somebody tackles it I would be gladly pay if it had to become a paid mod.

As mentioned before, we need a SEO implementation that is going to be carried forward with every ZEN release. I just has to become core at one point. Like every other CMS and most Ecommerce systems these days. It is frustrating to hear over and over again that they are really not needed. Well, we user want it. Our customers like to see pretty url's, search engines seem to at least like them equally well too. There is so much in ZenCart but this one got to be in it. Sorry, had to vent a bit.

With modern browsers and search engines, SEO mods are more of a "want to have.. they are NO longer a "need to have". The part I highlighted in red from your vent is just not true.. Modern search engines handle dynamic URLs JUST fine.. and there are PLENTY of stores that can PROVE that their search engine rankings have not been harmed by not having pretty URLs. Also for CMS and Ecommerce frameworks that do include these pretty URL features as part of the core, it's still a CONFIGURABLE option that does NOT have to be turned on.. (For example, you are NOT required to turn on pretty permalinks in WordPress)

[mydanilo]

With modern browsers and search engines, SEO mods are more of a "want to have.. they are NO longer a "need to have". The part I highlighted in red from your vent is just not true.. Modern search engines handle dynamic URLs JUST fine.. and there are PLENTY of stores that can PROVE that their search engine rankings have not been harmed by not having pretty URLs. Also for CMS and Ecommerce frameworks that do include these pretty URL features as part of the core, it's still a CONFIGURABLE option that does NOT have to be turned on.. (For example, you are NOT required to turn on pretty permalinks in WordPress)

I do not doubt to what you are saying. I know they can handle the dynamic URLs, not my point. I claim that the pretty URLs are also handled well by the search engines. So not harm there to have them. They are plain just simpler and easier to understand by humans. That is what it is all about. Clear text URLs.

Example:
Sometimes I email a link to a customer to a certain page. Or post a link in a forum.

http://waxx.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=48

http://myx.com/floating-candles/blue-butterfly-floater-candle

Personally I would trust to click the 2nd link way more as I already have an idea what I will see when I get there. I know that is more a psychology issue. But shopping and clicking on links definitely falls in that category.

I am gladly take every possible step to make things easier for my customers. This issue with pretty URLs is a matter of tech people tell the marketing guys that it does not matter. Human behavior is the key issue here not computers.

[DivaVocals]

The point to my post was and STILL is that pretty URLS are still a WANT TO HAVE feature.. You do not NEED to have pretty URLS in order for a site to be:

• easy to use
• effective
• found by search engines
• friendly
• usable, etc..

(There are TONS of SUCCESSFUL sites out there which totally prove this to be true)

BTW, I want to be clear that I never said ANYTHING to the effect that pretty URLs are NOT "handled well by the search engines".. I did comment on the part of your original post where you erroneously stated (with regard to dynamic URLs) that "search engines seem to at least like them equally well too"

I do not doubt to what you are saying. I know they can handle the dynamic URLs, not my point. I claim that the pretty URLs are also handled well by the search engines. So not harm there to have them. They are plain just simpler and easier to understand by humans. That is what it is all about. Clear text URLs.

Example:
Sometimes I email a link to a customer to a certain page. Or post a link in a forum.

http://waxx.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=48

http://myx.com/floating-candles/blue-butterfly-floater-candle

Personally I would trust to click the 2nd link way more as I already have an idea what I will see when I get there. I know that is more a psychology issue. But shopping and clicking on links definitely falls in that category.

I am gladly take every possible step to make things easier for my customers. This issue with pretty URLs is a matter of tech people tell the marketing guys that it does not matter. Human behavior is the key issue here not computers.

[mydanilo]

Correct, I want to have this feature. I want the choice to use it or not. Did not want to make a statement that there is a technological disadvantage. It is in my books pure human friendliness.

Many things in shopping experience are nice to have and hard to proof if they make a difference in sales. I happen to think that the pretty URL's is something I want to provide for my customers.

I thought SSU is going to be the one to be used and supported going forward. Yellow's main effort to create it was the lack of a good free solution and the lack of ongoing support for Ultimate SEO. Now for SSU we are left in the same boat. I have gone from Ultimate to SSU and now sincerely wish Zen would offer pretty URLs as a core feature to not run into the same situation over and over again.