Image Handler 4 (for v1.5.x) Support Thread

[DivaVocals]

I am having the same problem. Could someone give me the path to the adim.comfigure.php and what was altered.

You don't say what your "same problem" is.. If it was the same issue that ndg_uk had, I'm gonna say this again..

IH4's install does NOT touch the store side or admin side configure.php files.. If your issue is related to issues with the configure.php file it's a Zen Cart setup issue and NOT related specifically to IH4..

Therefore if you have issues related to the configure.php files, you need to post your question elsewhere in the forum to get support on correcting the 2 configure.php files. (located in the includes folder in the shop and admin)

[Golden Synergy]

Found it in the admin configure.php file

All working fine

Thanks for your help

You don't say what your "same problem" is.. If it was the same issue that ndg_uk had, I'm gonna say this again..

IH4's install does NOT touch the store side or admin side configure.php files.. If your issue is related to issues with the configure.php file it's a Zen Cart setup issue and NOT related specifically to IH4..

Therefore if you have issues related to the configure.php files, you need to post your question elsewhere in the forum to get support on correcting the 2 configure.php files. (located in the includes folder in the shop and admin)

Thank you. I do not know what fourum it SHOULD be posted in, but since this problem is happening with IH4. I thought I should look in the IH4 area. and I found someone with my same problem here.. So I was asking If I could get ndg_uk to give me help on what file it was and what he did to fix it. I am not laying blame on any one. I just want to get it fixed

www.classic-flatware.com

[DivaVocals]

Understood, nevertheless, an incorrectly configured configure.php file will manifest in other places beside IH4 since Zen Cart uses the data in that file to determine image paths, etc..

Thank you. I do not know what fourum it SHOULD be posted in, but since this problem is happening with IH4. I thought I should look in the IH4 area. and I found someone with my same problem here.. So I was asking If I could get ndg_uk to give me help on what file it was and what he did to fix it. I am not laying blame on any one. I just want to get it fixed

www.classic-flatware.com

[DivaVocals]

Delete of installer: I would be satisfied if the manual installer worked. I actually have tested it several times since this original post and it just does not work. I had to create a mime for the bak files, use the installer, back out the changes and merge the files by hand after the installer ran. Then delete install directories and bak files and remove mime type.

I can appreciate that you are trying to make it easier... But different hosted environments, users, configurations and such being as Zen Cart has always been, a manual installation is really necessary IMO.

The whole point of Zen Cart has always been the customization.

As I have stated in previous posts, we have already corrected the code for the next release so that the .BAK files are named differently. This should resolve issues the use of .BAK files will create for some hosting environments. It was a pretty simple change to make.. There is no immediate plan to delete the auto-installer..

I also believe that users presented with a "super easy" install will likely change other customizations unknowingly. A user who doesn't know what modules/customizations are integrated in the affected files should likely not be doing the install.

This holds true even for add-ons which must be manually installed.. There are shopowners who over write modifications made by other add-ons ALL THE TIME because they do not know to merge the changes into files. NOTHING about installing IH4 changes those rules.. If you want to merge other changes into these files BEFORE the install, then you should do just that. For shopowners who have made no changes they do not need to do any file merges. The readme in the next release makes that even clearer than the current readme.. There are only THREE modified core files required by IH4 that MAY be affected by other add-ons (usually lightbox add-ons). This is NO different than previous versions of IH so I don't think this is as big of an issue as you would appear to be implying that it is.

Bottomline is regardless of the add-on, shopowners need to READ THE README before installing ANY add-on and not assume that everything is the same.. That said we have made some improvements with the readme that will be included in the updated version to be submitted soon.

For the record, this is NOT the only add-on available which makes use an auto installer.

I have no issue with the files being backed up at all, as long as they are secure.

And as long as your store is secure so are the backup files

The database installer in the old IH was significantly different than what IH4 does. No comparison really.

Sorry I must disagree, this is not a true statement. There were only TWO changes to Image Handler installer.

1. There is now a file which automatically executes the install. After executing the install, this file self deletes itself so that the install file is not executed again. The entire process is the equivalent of the old Image Handler install. In that processes you open the Image Handler admin and click on the "Install Image Handler" link. (BTW, the install file was left in place afterwards in the "old" install method)
2. The current installer makes an attempt to clean up outdated image configuration settings. Previous versions of Image Handler required the store admin to remember to run the uninstall of the version they were upgrading from BEFORE upgrading (most did not and this caused a unique set of issues)

[niccol]

@melanie
Just regarding the database actions ( and ignoring any discussion about file handling for the time being) the old installer:

1. made a number of changes to the configuration table

The new installer

1. makes a number of changes to the configuration table
2. makes a change to the admin_pages table
3. deletes the unused entries in the configuration table

Really the only significant difference is number 2. (Point 3 is just house-keeping) This is part of the changes that Zen 1.5 introduced. Without that new record the tools>>imagehandler menu item will not be visible. So, even if we reverted to the previous installer there would be an sql statement that needed to be run before one was able to see the 'install' button on the tools>>imagehandler page.

It seems sensible to run this sql statement programatically so that the tools>>imagehandler page is visible to people immediately after install. This has been discussed in multiple threads .

Once you are running a sql statement programatically it seems sensible to include all the other sql statements in that process as it
takes one step out of the installation process without adding any further complications.

Of course, an alternative solution would be:
1. Upload the files
2. Run an sql statement (through admin or directly on the database) to make the admin page visible by adding a record to admin_pages
3. Click on the install button on the admin page to action the other database changes.

But that does seem more complicated to me. It certainly adds a step of complication, that of running a sql statement manually, that IH has previously avoided.

[DivaVocals]

@melanie
Just regarding the database actions ( and ignoring any discussion about file handling for the time being) the old installer:

1. made a number of changes to the configuration table

The new installer

1. makes a number of changes to the configuration table
2. makes a change to the admin_pages table
3. deletes the unused entries in the configuration table

Really the only significant difference is number 2. (Point 3 is just house-keeping) This is part of the changes that Zen 1.5 introduced. Without that new record the tools>>imagehandler menu item will not be visible. So, even if we reverted to the previous installer there would be an sql statement that needed to be run before one was able to see the 'install' button on the tools>>imagehandler page.

It seems sensible to run this sql statement programatically so that the tools>>imagehandler page is visible to people immediately after install. This has been discussed in multiple threads .

The current auto-install process removed the need for running a manual SQL statement, and niccol is absolutely right. there was a LONG discussion discussing doing just this in the v1.5 conversion thread. This discussion involved MANY knowledgeable Zen Cart gurus who endorsed the use of this method..

Once you are running a sql statement programatically it seems sensible to include all the other sql statements in that process as it
takes one step out of the installation process without adding any further complications.

Exactly!!!

Of course, an alternative solution would be:
1. Upload the files
2. Run an sql statement (through admin or directly on the database) to make the admin page visible by adding a record to admin_pages
3. Click on the install button on the admin page to action the other database changes.

But that does seem more complicated to me. It certainly adds a step of complication, that of running a sql statement manually, that IH has previously avoided.

I agree And this is EXACTLY the road IH4 started down until an angel lent us a helping hand..

The current auto-installer retains the same ONE STEP no-fuss install process that have been a historical part of the Image Handler process. The difference is that steps were taken to IMPROVE the prior one-step process. The upcoming update will see corrections/improvements in both the readme and the IH4 codebase. (none of which involve removing the auto-installer functionality)

[uswebworx]

Thanks for a great add-on, worked almost perfectly, but I fear my 1 small issue is me being stupid or dumb. i have recently taken over a store for someone who was having issues:
http://alsemergencylighting.com/store/ is the temp and practice store.
Fual Slimbox is working but it isn't working, I have merged the files, i think. However the additional images in the Installation section (only place needed, right now). The problem I am facing is when you click the main image there isn't a "next" or "previous" to scroll through the images........
Other than this a fantastic Mod!

PS to the 2 going back and forth about what is right or wrong you have cluttered this thread.