Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

[DivaVocals]

Will the EXACT url 's be used?
If not the 301 redirects are your answer?

and piggybacking on this response..

1. The .htaccess file is the KEY to the solution..
2. Re-Read through the readme.. One thing Conor was REALLY good at (besides writing GREAT modules) is writing thorough documentation for his modules. I found the following in a QUICK glance through the readme that comes with this module

Modifying the rule to allow URI mappings to be used which end with a particular file extension

Will this handle redirecting old URL's to the new ones created by your module?? for example:

i am going to be migrating my site from a Sunshop script to Zen cart and would like to keep the names of the product, category, and general pages the same URL - for search engine purposes.. Or at the very least redirect the pages to the new URL's.. Is there an easy way to do this - or even a hard way - so that i don't lose all the search engine indexed pages we have built up over the years.

Please don't take this the wrong way.. But if it is over your head, you may have to consider hiring someone to help you set this up..

[tyankee]

and piggybacking on this response..

1. The .htaccess file is the KEY to the solution..
2. Re-Read through the readme.. One thing Conor was REALLY good at (besides writing GREAT modules) is writing thorough documentation for his modules. I found the following in a QUICK glance through the readme that comes with this module





Please don't take this the wrong way.. But if it is over your head, you may have to consider hiring someone to help you set this up..

i would definately hire someone if this is over my head and i think it might be.. i DID read through all the documentation and my conclusions right now are that this module will NOT accomplish what i need. But it looks like he has a paid module on his website that may accomplish it. although i've tried for 3 days straight to contact him through his website with no responses yet.

[DivaVocals]

Live from my mother's basement..

Hint..

2. Re-Read through the readme.. One thing Conor was REALLY good at (besides writing GREAT modules) is writing thorough documentation for his modules. I found the following in a QUICK glance through the readme that comes with this module

Modifying the rule to allow URI mappings to be used which end with a particular file extension

[tyankee]

Live from my mother's basement..

Hint..

of course i've read this - it's in the documentation - but it doesn't fit what i've been asking for.. i'm hoping there are other business owners out there who have migrated from another software to Zen Cart.. they'll know how it's done.. it's a must have - that's why i'm surprised there's no module out there for it.

[DivaVocals]

of course i've read this - it's in the documentation - but it doesn't fit what i've been asking for.. i'm hoping there are other business owners out there who have migrated from another software to Zen Cart.. they'll know how it's done.. it's a must have - that's why i'm surprised there's no module out there for it.

Well then you need to explain something or else NO ONE is going to be able to help you.. Why exactly do you think that section of the documentation doesn't cover what you are trying to do?? It sounds EXACTLY like what you are trying to do. (and it sounds just like what lhungil described as one of your options..)

This is what that section of the readme says

Modifying the rule to allow URI mappings to be used which end with a particular file extension (e.g. “.html”).

The example rewrite rule by default does not rewrite URIs ending with a 2 to 5 letter file extension, to avoid wasteful attempts by the later rules to check if image files, CSS files etc. should have their URIs rewritten, and for maximum compatibility with other software being used to run the site.
However, some stores may want to use particular extensions - for example “.html” or “.php” - at the end of its URIs, possibly to match up with advertising literature, or to re-map URIs from a previous site.

It's easy to let the Ceon URI Mapping module manage URIs with any file extension by making a simple change to the rewrite rule.

The section goes on to explain how to setup the .htaccess file to do this with this module.. How is this DIFFERENT from what you have stated you are trying to do???

[DivaVocals]

Well then you need to explain something or else NO ONE is going to be able to help you.. Why exactly do you think that section of the documentation doesn't cover what you are trying to do?? It sounds EXACTLY like what you are trying to do. (and it sounds just like what lhungil described as one of your options..)

This is what that section of the readme says



The section goes on to explain how to setup the .htaccess file to do this with this module.. How is this DIFFERENT from what you have stated you are trying to do???

To add to this.. I just tried on a test site I had up and running with this module installed. I followed the instruction in the section of Conor's readme that I am referring to and entered "gc1041017.html" for my test product's URI and IT WORKED.. so please explain HOW this section of the documentation not help you achieve what you originally posted you are trying to accomplish??

here's the actual URL with autogenerated URL's - http://medievalclothing.co/hobby-stone/merlins-magic
but when i put gc1041017.html in the URL mapping field, the site tries to bring up http://medievalclothing.co/gc1041017.html and it says it does not exist.

and don't read any emotions into my posts, I'm simply asking for clarification..

if this section of the readme for this module doesn't do what you are trying to do then it's going to be difficult for ANYONE here to help you.. So some clarification might be necessary.. You might also want to post your .htaccess file too..

[tyankee]

To add to this.. I just tried on a test site I had up and running with this module installed. I followed the instruction in the section of Conor's readme that I am referring to and entered "gc1041017.html" for my test product's URI and IT WORKED.. so please explain HOW this section of the documentation not help you achieve what you originally posted you are trying to accomplish??

and don't read any emotions into my posts, I'm simply asking for clarification..

if this section of the readme for this module doesn't do what you are trying to do then it's going to be difficult for ANYONE here to help you.. So some clarification might be necessary.. You might also want to post your .htaccess file too..

where did you enter 'gc1041017.html'????? i tried entering that in the zen_cri_uri_mappings table (as stated) in the 'alternate uri' field and '301' in the 'redirection_type_code' field and left the uri field to the 'pretty' url that this module creates.. that is supposed to redirect to medievalclothing.co/gc1041017.html - and yes it does but i get a 404 page.. plus that's backwards of what i want and need.. this effect is that the URL generated through CEON redirects to another URL.. i need the OLD URL to redirect to the new CEON generated URL..

[DivaVocals]

where did you enter 'gc1041017.html'????? i tried entering that in the zen_cri_uri_mappings table (as stated) in the 'alternate uri' field and '301' in the 'redirection_type_code' field and left the uri field to the 'pretty' url that this module creates.. that is supposed to redirect to medievalclothing.co/gc1041017.html - and yes it does but i get a 404 page.. plus that's backwards of what i want and need.. this effect is that the URL generated through CEON redirects to another URL.. i need the OLD URL to redirect to the new CEON generated URL..

I manually edited the product and entered "gc1041017.html" in the URI field.

Specifying the current URI Mapping for a Product

Specifying the current URI mapping for a Product, for each language used by the store, is easily accomplished:

• Use Catalog > Categories/Products to navigate to the product the desired product is within.
• Click the (green) icon for “Edit” alongside the product's name or click the “New Product” button if adding a new product.

The URI mapping can be automatically generated using the store's URI mapping auto-generation settings:

• The URI mapping fields can be found at the bottom of the page.
• Simply tick the URI mapping auto-generation text box and click “Preview”.
• The URI mapping will then be generated using the full path to the current product and the name of the product. For stores with multiple languages, a URI mapping will be generated for each language, using the respective product names entered for each language.
• The auto-generated URI mappings for each language the store is using will be displayed below the product's description.
• Click “Update” to save the product's information, including its URI mapping(s).

[tyankee]

Well then you need to explain something or else NO ONE is going to be able to help you.. Why exactly do you think that section of the documentation doesn't cover what you are trying to do?? It sounds EXACTLY like what you are trying to do. (and it sounds just like what lhungil described as one of your options..)

This is what that section of the readme says



The section goes on to explain how to setup the .htaccess file to do this with this module.. How is this DIFFERENT from what you have stated you are trying to do???

yes it does explain how to setup the htaccess file to do this with this module but i already CAN redirect all of my old URL's to the new ones using htaccess but it would require over 5000 statements for over 5000 pages - and that's just dumb.. and i can do that without using this module.. i thought this module had a feature that allowed you to enter your old URL in the product table, which would convert/redirect to the new URL that it creates.. that's is what would be useful.. I had a programmer do that for us a few years back when we were converting to the Sunshop store.. You put the old URL into the product table and then there is some process that checks that and shows the user the new URL.. that way the search engines don't delist all of your indexed pages. and yes 5000 301 redirects in the htaccess would accomplish that but not sure that's the best way to do it..

[DivaVocals]

yes it does explain how to setup the htaccess file to do this with this module but i already CAN redirect all of my old URL's to the new ones using htaccess but it would require over 5000 statements for over 5000 pages - and that's just dumb.. and i can do that without using this module.. i thought this module had a feature that allowed you to enter your old URL in the product table, which would convert/redirect to the new URL that it creates.. that's is what would be useful.. I had a programmer do that for us a few years back when we were converting to the Sunshop store.. You put the old URL into the product table and then there is some process that checks that and shows the user the new URL.. that way the search engines don't delist all of your indexed pages. and yes 5000 301 redirects in the htaccess would accomplish that but not sure that's the best way to do it..

I swear I am not trying to be difficult here, but it doesn't sound like you read this section or you are not understanding how to configure this to get to your end result.. no part of this section says ANYTHING about creating "5000 statements". You make ONE SMALL CHANGE to your .htaccess file and then all you need to do is enter the URI you want into the URI field on the product page.

Now since you have over 5000 URLs to bring over, this is probably not practical to do manually.. So the solution will be to create a SQL script to populate the URI table for this module. If you are handy enough with SQL you can create a SQL statement to populate the URI table for this module with your current store's URLs. There's a few ways to get a list of your current store's URLs. (Google WebMaster might have some tools to help you do this)

The Mapping Manager module will not help you with this task because you are bringing in URLs from a different shopping cart and not another Zen Cart re-writing module. From the Mapping Manager inferface

Ceon URI Mappings Manager could not identify any other URI/SEO software in use for this store. At this time, only Ultimate SEO URLs, Simple SEO URLs or Magic SEO URLs can be identified.

So the Mapping Manager cannot import URLs from a different shopping cart system.

Also if the Mapping Manager is the module you are trying to get help with we are really not allowed to discuss support issues/questions for commercial modules in details on this forum (the admins discourage this)