Artisteer

**tiko** · 1 Dec 2012, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by kino

I almost finished. So I publish.

i am interested : )

**schoolboy** · 1 Dec 2012, 12:22 PM

I am interested too... but when I visit your site I do not know what I am looking at. What is that site? Is it a place to buy your module? Is it a demonstration of your module?

You need to tell us what we are looking at, how it works, what we need to do with our existing Artisteer program... How do we get it to work?

You must show everyone how this works... not just put up some website that we get no idea of what is going on.

**kino** · 4 Dec 2012, 09:34 AM

I sent in artisteer.
But was rejected because not been able to reproduce the design of Artisteer.

However, I think there is no problem to use as a template for zencart.

People who want to test, please send a PM.

**gjh42** · 4 Dec 2012, 02:14 PM

I ran into the same issue when packaging Ultimate Fade-in Slideshow for Zen Cart. Dynamic Drive's rules did not allow me to put all of the files in my package, only the modifications necessary to use their files with Zen Cart. Everyone must download the original files from the DD page and add the ZC-specific files in my package.
Of course, this has created a support problem, as I knew it would, with people not understanding exactly how/where to get the original files...

As long as Artisteer does not require purchase, you may be able to do something similar, with a package of the required ZC modifications and very clear directions on where to get the original files and how to merge them.

**kino** · 13 Dec 2012, 03:40 AM

I was released as a beta version.
It's free.

As a first step in creating a template should work.

http://www.tktools.jp/index.php?main...&products_id=2

**DivaVocals** · 11 Feb 2013, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by dbltoe

If it is just like word, I'd advise NOT using it.
Try entering "Hello World!" in word and save as a webpage. Then use something like notepad to view the HTML. You'll see what

most programs throw in that is VERY problematic in Zen Cart.

Nothing like Word at all (the word comparison is a BAD analogy)

Originally Posted by schoolboy

We've been using Artisteer to create simple (but effective) wordpress themes for about 3 years now, so a zencart version would be really great.

I agree.. I too like Artisteer for spining up quick effective WordPress templates.. for something more robust I prefer the WP template frameworks (like Catalyst) It would be AWESOME to see a plugin for Artisteer to support Zen Cart

Originally Posted by kino

Is not anyone interested?
Well, I quit to publish.

Kino I JUST FOUND and tried your Artisteer plugin today.. It works, but not without some SERIOUS massaging of the template it creates.. there are a few things I personally found problematic and if you are still out there I'd like to share my thoughts.. If you reply to this post I shall do so.. I hope you plan to continue this work, but there are some changes that are needed to make this worthy of a free download let alone a commercial one..

**DivaVocals** · 11 Feb 2013, 07:24 AM

Thought I should post my thoughts from my preliminary testing:

This part of your instructions did not see to work, and they may not matter as I see the menu Artisteer generates is not one I will use in Zen Cart (would replace with the CSS Horizontal Menu or the Mega Menu add-ons)

6. add to .htaccess .
--------------------------------------
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteRule ^home.html$ index.php [L]

Renamed and moved the following scripts to the proper template jscript template folder:

jquery.js = jscript_jquery.js (this file is jQuery 1.7.1 current Jquery version is 1.9.1)
script.js = jscript_artisteer.js
script.responsive.js = jscript_artisteer_responsive.js

Renamed and moved the following stylesheets to the proper template css template folder:

style.css = style_artisteer.css
style.ie7.css = style_artisteer_ie7.css
style.responsive.css = style_artisteer_responsive.css

Replaced lines 1 - 17 of the default.php file:

<!DOCTYPE html><html><head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<title>Home</title>
<meta name="viewport" content="initial-scale = 1.0, maximum-scale = 1.0, user-scalable = no, width = device-width">


<link rel="stylesheet" href="includes/templates/ZenCartTest1/style.css" media="screen">

<link rel="stylesheet" href="includes/templates/ZenCartTest1/style.responsive.css" media="all">

<script src="includes/templates/ZenCartTest1/jquery.js"></script>
<script src="includes/templates/ZenCartTest1/script.js"></script>
<script src="includes/templates/ZenCartTest1/script.responsive.js"></script>

<style>.art-content .art-postcontent-0 .layout-item-0 { margin-top: 10px;margin-bottom: 10px; }
.art-content .art-postcontent-0 .layout-item-1 { border-spacing: 10px 0px; border-collapse: separate; }
.art-content .art-postcontent-0 .layout-item-2 { color: #141414; background: #FBD593; padding-right: 10px;padding-left: 10px; }
.art-content .art-postcontent-0 .layout-item-3 { padding-right: 10px;padding-left: 10px; }
.art-content .art-postcontent-0 .layout-item-4 { margin-top: 5px;margin-bottom: 5px; }
.ie7 .post .layout-cell {border:none !important; padding:0 !important; }
.ie6 .post .layout-cell {border:none !important; padding:0 !important; }

</style><link rel="stylesheet" href="includes/templates/ZenCartTest1/css/stylesheet.css" media="screen"></head>

with the following:

Finally the template is not properly calling the common/html_header.php file.. I tried a bunch a ways to get that to work by messing around with the default common/html_header.php file and the default.php file that the Artisteer generated template uses and the result every time was that the common/html_header.php was being called twice.. Just to SEE the template display I ended up using the Artisteer modified common/html_header.php, and copying nearly ALL of the default common/html_header.php contents into the Artisteer generated default.php file (placing the code just above the corrections I made above)..

Now while all of that got the template to display, it doesn't display as I designed it (the header displays full screen though the template center area and header are fixed width). Interestingly enough the header section ONLY displayed correctly when the common/html_header.php was getting called twice.. **shrug**

Nice start, but clearly needs work.. Though your site states:

This template is only to start when you want to customize.

this is more work than one should HAVE to do using Artisteer.. WordPress templates at least land all the files in the correct locations. At the very least I think that the CSS and JS files need to be named correctly and placed in the right template folders..

I think this is a nice start, but clearly there is some work to do.. I cannot see using this plugin in it's current state on a regular basis at all. Looking forward to seeing some improvements..

**DivaVocals** · 11 Feb 2013, 07:33 AM

One last thing.. the performance of the template is also SLOW!!! However, I think this may be an Artisteer issue as I noticed that Artisteer 4.0 generated templates seem slow too..

Originally Posted by DivaVocals

Thought I should post my thoughts from my preliminary testing:

This part of your instructions did not see to work, and they may not matter as I see the menu Artisteer generates is not one I will use in Zen Cart (would replace with the CSS Horizontal Menu or the Mega Menu add-ons)

Renamed and moved the following scripts to the proper template jscript template folder:

jquery.js = jscript_jquery.js (this file is jQuery 1.7.1 current Jquery version is 1.9.1)
script.js = jscript_artisteer.js
script.responsive.js = jscript_artisteer_responsive.js

Renamed and moved the following stylesheets to the proper template css template folder:

style.css = style_artisteer.css
style.ie7.css = style_artisteer_ie7.css
style.responsive.css = style_artisteer_responsive.css

Replaced lines 1 - 17 of the default.php file:

with the following:

Finally the template is not properly calling the common/html_header.php file.. I tried a bunch a ways to get that to work by messing around with the default common/html_header.php file and the default.php file that the Artisteer generated template uses and the result every time was that the common/html_header.php was being called twice.. Just to SEE the template display I ended up using the Artisteer modified common/html_header.php, and copying nearly ALL of the default common/html_header.php contents into the Artisteer generated default.php file (placing the code just above the corrections I made above)..

Now while all of that got the template to display, it doesn't display as I designed it (the header displays full screen though the template center area and header are fixed width). Interestingly enough the header section ONLY displayed correctly when the common/html_header.php was getting called twice.. **shrug**

Nice start, but clearly needs work.. Though your site states:

this is more work than one should HAVE to do using Artisteer.. WordPress templates at least land all the files in the correct locations. At the very least I think that the CSS and JS files need to be named correctly and placed in the right template folders..

I think this is a nice start, but clearly there is some work to do.. I cannot see using this plugin in it's current state on a regular basis at all. Looking forward to seeing some improvements..

**Digiwinkel** · 13 Feb 2013, 07:55 AM

Tried tested,.. works,.. But it's a great way to completely lose track of what code is generated from where,.. Meaning: if now you want to do minor design tweaks or install various enhanced modules, it will become a real challenge?

**DivaVocals** · 13 Feb 2013, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Digiwinkel

Tried tested,.. works,.. But it's a great way to completely lose track of what code is generated from where,.. Meaning: if now you want to do minor design tweaks or install various enhanced modules, it will become a real challenge?

It will if the template generated from Artisteer is used AS IS.. The issue I had was not with the template specific files, but the fact that the template generated does NOT use Zen Cart defaults.. this would make integration with modules and updates somewhat of a nightmare..

I do hope to see more work in this space.. if not Kino then someone else..

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