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    Default Re: SitemapXML v.2

    Just trying to have everything in order but if you say that it shouldn't affect functionality then it's ok , thanks for replying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    Not disputing that you cannot capture the blog in the XML sitemap using this module. However, that's NOT what I was suggesting at all. In fact the fact that you cannot capture the blog's URLs in this plugin is what lead me to a different approach..

    What I was saying/suggesting is that there IS down and dirty way to use ONE XML plugin/module to capture both the blog and Zen Cart URLs in ONE XML site map by approching this from the WordPress side with the right plugin. In the WordPress XML sitemap plugin I use, I can add additional URLS for the plugin to include in the sitemap. Initially I added the category URLs, but then simplified and added just the URL to the Zen Cart HTML sitemap (index.php?main_page=site_map). It's down and dirty, but doing this captured both the blog and the shop in ONE XML sitemap.
    wanted to add a few more thoughts to this post..

    Quote Originally Posted by a_berezin View Post
    Hi,

    Unfortunately so, too, will not work. If you add a link to the blog by EZ-page, it will not generate sitemap for your blog. This will only create an entry with this link in SitemapXML.

    To create a sitemap of your blog you need to know its structure. So, for each integrated CMS needs a his own sitemap plugin.
    You are absolutely right.. Adding a link to the blog via an EZ-Page will not create a XML sitemap for the blog (which is totally NOT what I was ever suggesting/stating in any of my previous posts). However, adding a link to the blog via an EZ-Page WILL add the blog URL to the XML Sitemap. When the search engines read the XML sitemap, they will follow the link to the blog and crawl the blog. (this is the reverse of my down and dirty WordPress plugin solution which approaches things from the Zen Cart side)
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    help question Re: SitemapXML v.2

    I have a small problem with url's that are generated in the sitemap for ezpages. I use ceon uri mapping this replaces the query sting to something more memorable/ pleasing. These cleansed links are displayed in the categories and products sitemaps but not in the ezpage one. Any idea how to rectify this?

    Here is the sitemap index file for reference.

    Thanks in advance for any help :o)


    Edit: We are using zencart 1.5.1 and the latest sitemapxml release
    Last edited by DH010010; 29 Mar 2013 at 01:06 AM. Reason: Added current zencart version
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    In the WordPress XML sitemap plugin I use, I can add additional URLS for the plugin to include in the sitemap.
    I thought about it. But did not do for two reasons:
    1. This function is practically no demand. For me the whole time about it is asked only two times.
    2. I am afraid that increase the functionality will lead to a significant increase in the number of problems and issues. You look - what now occurs issues. And this despite the fact that the installation and use is simply nowhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    I added the category URLs, but then simplified and added just the URL to the Zen Cart HTML sitemap (index.php?main_page=site_map).
    But it really has nothing to do with XML. What's the point in adding in SitemapXML such links? To the search engine found this page? Think without this, the search engine does not find the correct page?
    The task of SitemapXML - provide a list of the leaf pages with additional information, including the very important information about the date of the last modification of the page. This information allows the search engine to plan bypassing the site, indexing in the first turn new page of.

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    doing this captured both the blog and the shop in ONE XML sitemap.
    But what is the point of getting ONE Sitemap for all integrated systems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH010010 View Post
    I have a small problem with url's that are generated in the sitemap for ezpages. I use ceon uri mapping this replaces the query sting to something more memorable/ pleasing. These cleansed links are displayed in the categories and products sitemaps but not in the ezpage one. Any idea how to rectify this?
    Sorry, but I don't use ceon uri mapping and i don't know why ceon uri mapping don't "mapping" this urls.
    Try to "force rebuild" sitemaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_berezin View Post
    I thought about it. But did not do for two reasons:
    1. This function is practically no demand. For me the whole time about it is asked only two times.
    2. I am afraid that increase the functionality will lead to a significant increase in the number of problems and issues. You look - what now occurs issues. And this despite the fact that the installation and use is simply nowhere.
    Just want to be clear.. NOT ONCE did I suggest you modify this module to include any additional functionality (in case this is what you walked away from my previous posts with it was NOT what I was suggesting)


    Quote Originally Posted by a_berezin View Post
    But it really has nothing to do with XML. What's the point in adding in SitemapXML such links? To the search engine found this page?
    Again.. So you can submit only ONE XML sitemap which captured both the blog and store URLs.

    Quote Originally Posted by a_berezin View Post
    Think without this, the search engine does not find the correct page?
    The task of SitemapXML - provide a list of the leaf pages with additional information, including the very important information about the date of the last modification of the page. This information allows the search engine to plan bypassing the site, indexing in the first turn new page of.
    Yeah.. I get this.. Do I think this will work.. well.. it's supposed to according to Sitemap.org
    Web crawlers usually discover pages from links within the site and from other sites. Sitemaps supplement this data to allow crawlers that support Sitemaps to pick up all URLs in the Sitemap and learn about those URLs using the associated metadata. Using the Sitemap protocol does not guarantee that web pages are included in search engines, but provides hints for web crawlers to do a better job of crawling your site.
    and AGAIN, I know that at least ONE WordPress XML Sitemap plugin (XML Sitemap Generator for WordPress) allows you to add additional URLs to your XML sitemap with all of the very important information the search engines require.. From the XML Sitemap Generator for WordPress settings page.

    Here you can specify files or URLs which should be included in the sitemap, but do not belong to your Blog/WordPress.
    For example, if your domain is www.foo.com and your blog is located on www.foo.com/blog you might want to include your homepage at www.foo.com
    • Note: If your blog is in a subdirectory and you want to add pages which are NOT in the blog directory or beneath, you MUST place your sitemap file in the root directory (Look at the "Location of your sitemap file" section on this page)!
    • URL to the page: Enter the URL to the page. Examples: http://www.foo.com/index.html or www.foo.com/home
    • Priority: Choose the priority of the page relative to the other pages. For example, your homepage might have a higher priority than your imprint.
    • Last Changed: Enter the date of the last change as YYYY-MM-DD (2005-12-31 for example) (optional).
    So I can use this to simplify my sitemap by only submitting ONE which includes all the links in my blog and my store.. and again let me be clear, I am NOT suggesting that you change this add-on AT ALL.. (never said that once)
    Quote Originally Posted by a_berezin View Post
    But what is the point of getting ONE Sitemap for all integrated systems?
    Goodness.. Let me summarize here and move on because now we are going in circles.. I have said a few times here the reason for my suggestion is very simple.. The ORIGINAL question posed by mattee77 was
    Quote Originally Posted by mattee77 View Post
    Can anyone please help...I have added a blog to my url htp://stickerstocker.co.uk/blog how do I get the sitemap to include this url?

    It sounded to me like he did not want to have to submit TWO XML sitemaps to the search engines (one for the blog and another for the store). At the VERY least it sounded like he wanted to make sure his Zen Cart XML sitemap included the URL to the blog.. I offered two suggestions in that regard.


    1. Add an EZ Page link to the blog, and this module would pick up that URL and include it in the XML sitemap.
    2. Use a WordPress plugin to manage the whole site's XML sitemaps thereby avoid having to generate on XML sitemap for the store and another for the blog.

      To do this he could create his XML sitemap in WordPress using a WordPress plugin. I knew that at least ONE plugin allowed you to include other site URLs as part of your XML sitemap. Using one of these plugins, mattee77 could add additional URLs to the XML sitemap for the store (I suggested using the URL for the Zen Cart HTML sitemap page since it contains all of the product and category links to simplify things).


    So you have asked why would anyone do this??? Let me state AGAIN.. You'd do this so that one could submit only ONE XML sitemap which captured both the blog and store URLs. Personally using the options in the XML Sitemap Generator for WordPress plugin is my preferred method if I have both a blog and a store on the same site since it's easy enough to do and it simplifies the management of the XML sitemap for the site... Clearly you disagree with this approach.. and that's fine.. We'll just have to agree to disagree that's all..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    NOT ONCE did I suggest you modify this module to include any additional functionality (in case this is what you walked away from my previous posts with it was NOT what I was suggesting)
    Where I claimed this?

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    It sounded to me like he did not want to have to submit TWO XML sitemaps to the search engines (one for the blog and another for the store).
    It sounds that he did not know how to do properly, did not know that you can add a few sitemaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    You'd do this so that one could submit only ONE XML sitemap which captured both the blog and store URLs.
    The key here - URLs. Not only one URL to whole blog or one URL for all Store. But addresses all significant for the indexing of pages. And the blog and store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_berezin View Post
    Where I claimed this?
    I never said you made any such statement.. and I thought I made this clear when I stated:
    (in case this is what you walked away from my previous posts with it was NOT what I was suggesting)



    Quote Originally Posted by a_berezin View Post
    It sounds that he did not know how to do properly, did not know that you can add a few sitemaps.
    Though this is certainly the path he chose.. I read his post ORIGINAL differently.. and thought that MAYBE.. just maybe.. he knew, but he didn't want to set up more than one sitemap.. My point always was that he doesn't HAVE to setup more than one XML sitemap if he doesn't want to.. It's an alternate approach.. 'tis all..
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_berezin View Post
    The key here - URLs. Not only one URL to whole blog or one URL for all Store. But addresses all significant for the indexing of pages. And the blog and store.
    Goodness.. Yes Andrew I do get that..
    and I stated already that I started out by adding ALL the URLs of the store products and/or categories to the WordPress sitemap, but found it that it worked just as well (and possibly more efficently) to use the URL for the Zen Cart sitemap (the HTML one that comes with Zen Cart -- http://yoursite.com/index.php?main_page=site_map) since this page already contains links to ALL the products and categories in the store. So if the products or categories changed, this page would reflect this change and therefore the change will be passed on to the search engines when they crawled the sitemap page..

    According to Sitemap.org:
    Web crawlers usually discover pages from links within the site and from other sites.
    Which has been my experience since adding the URL for the Zen Cart sitemap to my WordPress XML sitemap.. We found the store pages were indexed on the same day the blog pages were indexed..
    Last edited by DivaVocals; 29 Mar 2013 at 06:23 PM.
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