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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    Quote Originally Posted by rbarbour View Post
    Whether it be via message-stack or inline form error messages, these error messages need to be displayed one way or another (if you want required fields).

    This mod uses inline error messages, IMHO, i do not think this was change for change sake, with so many forms using CSS tool-tips and jQuery to display inline error messages, I think it was to give the form a more up-to-date presence.

    If one chooses to convert to message-stack by all means, try my MessageStack LightAlert Light Box.

    I have to agree with @DivaVocals, the inline error messages do provide better usability hence all the new CSS tool-tips and jQuery form builders.

    A Return form DOES help sales and confidence with a customer IMHO.
    I agree.. inline messages are used more often in applications these days because they ensure that end users have fewer issues understanding EXACTLY what is required when a form fails validation on submit. It's not change for change sake at all.. it is IMPROVED usability, and I don't understand how that is a BAD thing..
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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    Quote Originally Posted by dw08gm View Post
    We are not disputing the value of Return forms, but rather only where the error messages in the updated mod are to be placed.

    My comment regarding form layout dirsuption seems to have been overlooked.

    cheers
    Not overlooked, I ran into the same issue on a site I updated - def something to reconsider as far as adding constraints for the displayed (span) error which should be easily accomplished as I used css.

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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    Quote Originally Posted by dw08gm View Post
    My comment regarding form layout dirsuption seems to have been overlooked.

    cheers
    Not sure what you are referring to here.. what layout "disruption" (not sure if this is misspelled or not in your post) are you referring to???
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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    Why is this a BAD thing???:
    Attachment 12470
    I seem to have misplaced by reading glasses.

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    Quote Originally Posted by dw08gm View Post
    I seem to have misplaced by reading glasses.

    Cheers
    If you are referring to the size of the error message font, you do realize that the forum software shrinks these inline images.. the actual page is not unreadable or microscopic by any means..
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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    It does provide for BETTER usability.. It's a frustrating user experience to fill out a form only to find out that it's missing data, and to have NO indication what the issue is... You cannot assume that people will just KNOW and figure it out because you assume that they SHOULD know.

    Again we'll have to agree to disagree.. A returns form by it's very nature isn't helping sales, so I fail to see how providing the end user some indication that the form is not filled out correctly correlates to sales.. Displaying a generic validation message without ANY indication where the error in fact lies is not a great user experience.. In my long experience working in software development, when a form is submitted without all the required information you do need to display some indication to the end user where that error lies.. You call it change for change sake, but improving user experience is not in my opinion a bad thing..

    Again clearly you do not agree with this logic..
    to add to this wanted to quote something I read that torvista posted this morning in a completely different thread, but it is applicable to this discussion:

    I subscribe to the design theory: "Don't make me think" (or rather "...assume I cannot think").
    Exactly!!
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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    So, I have made tremendous headway with this mod, to many new features to list but I will list a few:

    Admin option for every field:
    0 = Display as Optional
    1 = Display as Required
    2 = Do not Display

    Admin option for error display
    true = Inline Display
    false = Messagestack Display

    Admin option to display Store Name & Address on returns page
    Admin option to display Store Name & Address on returns success page
    true
    false

    Admin option to display Different Store Name & Address on returns success page (if a different address is used to process returns)

    Admin Order History Info RMA Button/Link Display options
    0 = Display as Button
    1 = Display as Link

    Admin controlled text for above Link Display

    And many many more options!!!

    I am going to package and forward the files to @DivaVocal to test and make necessary changes. Due to the many features and flexibility I think a new upload and thread should be started.

    Flexible Return Authorization (RMA) for Zen Cart 1.5.x

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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    Quote Originally Posted by rbarbour View Post
    So, I have made tremendous headway with this mod, to many new features to list but I will list a few:

    Admin option for every field:
    0 = Display as Optional
    1 = Display as Required
    2 = Do not Display

    Admin option for error display
    true = Inline Display
    false = Messagestack Display

    Admin option to display Store Name & Address on returns page
    Admin option to display Store Name & Address on returns success page
    true
    false

    Admin option to display Different Store Name & Address on returns success page (if a different address is used to process returns)

    Admin Order History Info RMA Button/Link Display options
    0 = Display as Button
    1 = Display as Link

    Admin controlled text for above Link Display

    And many many more options!!!

    I am going to package and forward the files to @DivaVocal to test and make necessary changes. Due to the many features and flexibility I think a new upload and thread should be started.

    Flexible Return Authorization (RMA) for Zen Cart 1.5.x
    Wow.. you are awesome!! I'll PM you my e-mail address.. I totally agree about the new support thread as well..
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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    Wow.. you are awesome!! I'll PM you my e-mail address.. I totally agree about the new support thread as well..
    Flexible Return Authorization has been submitted to downloads.. the support thread for the new Module is here: http://www.zen-cart.com/showthread.p...Support-Thread..

    I'll post updates when the module is available for download..
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    Default Re: Return Authorization Module (RMA)

    can anyone post a link to this mod working? I would like to see a demo before i install. sounds like just what I need though :)
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