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    Hello Diva,

    Firstly I came here after seeing your last post in Abbington Mega - I did not get an email alert to the fact that you had posted a response in here, in any case I am here now.

    So to avoid this accusation being leveled by you TWICE
    to clear the air I was not accusing, I was assuming. However written communication continues to lend itself to misinterpretation by the receiver, it always has and always will as the interpretation of intent or inuendo or mood or hidden meaning often applied to the written word is a human failing - I am certainly guilty of it especially when things aren't going my way. So I apologize for any inferences I may have inferred :) (releases dove of peace)

    the thread for you: http://www.zen-cart.com/showthread.p...72#post1213772 - This link is the explicit instructions for merging the Tabbed Home Page Modules code into the "tpl_index_categories.php" file. Once you do this, then you can merge the "tpl_index_categories.php" file with the one from this module.. The Tabbed Home Page Modules not having their code on the "tpl_index_categories.php" file menas that if you turn categories on on the home page the Tabbed Home Page Modules doesn't work.. (All of this is explained on the Tabbed Home Page Modules support thread)
    Thanks for that - I read that page and I am still confused. The php code referenced by GAM is for v1.5.1, I am using v1.3.9h - not sure if that matters as I cannot make head nor tail of it.

    Let me see if I have this right;

    2. I merge includes/templates/abbington_mega/templates/tpl_index_default.php from the Abbington Mega files already loaded with the file of the same name from the plugin files recently downloaded
    3. then with that newly merged file (includes/templates/abbington_mega/templates/tpl_index_default.php) I then merge it with includes/templates/RENAMED TEMPLATE/templates/tpl_index_categories.php from the plugin files
    4. I replace the two files in the plugin files with these new same name files and then I upload the plugin

    is that correct? - if not how would you put it in laymans terms (follow the bouncing ball)

    cheers,
    Mike
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    Default Re: Editable Home Page Centerboxes

    I'm not home so I can't look at anything right now but you're going to have to compare the 1.3 .9 code to 1.5 .1 code I'm not sure what the differences are but they're probably minor But you need to start with making sure that all the files that these two mods have in common are properly merged..
    Quote Originally Posted by shags38 View Post
    Hello Diva,

    Firstly I came here after seeing your last post in Abbington Mega - I did not get an email alert to the fact that you had posted a response in here, in any case I am here now.

    to clear the air I was not accusing, I was assuming. However written communication continues to lend itself to misinterpretation by the receiver, it always has and always will as the interpretation of intent or inuendo or mood or hidden meaning often applied to the written word is a human failing - I am certainly guilty of it especially when things aren't going my way. So I apologize for any inferences I may have inferred :) (releases dove of peace)



    Thanks for that - I read that page and I am still confused. The php code referenced by GAM is for v1.5.1, I am using v1.3.9h - not sure if that matters as I cannot make head nor tail of it.

    Let me see if I have this right;

    2. I merge includes/templates/abbington_mega/templates/tpl_index_default.php from the Abbington Mega files already loaded with the file of the same name from the plugin files recently downloaded
    3. then with that newly merged file (includes/templates/abbington_mega/templates/tpl_index_default.php) I then merge it with includes/templates/RENAMED TEMPLATE/templates/tpl_index_categories.php from the plugin files
    4. I replace the two files in the plugin files with these new same name files and then I upload the plugin

    is that correct? - if not how would you put it in laymans terms (follow the bouncing ball)

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    I'm not home so I can't look at anything right now but you're going to have to compare the 1.3 .9 code to 1.5 .1 code I'm not sure what the differences are but they're probably minor But you need to start with making sure that all the files that these two mods have in common are properly merged..
    Diva, thanks very much for all your time and efforts to date trying to help me with this. I am not very proficient with merging of files or folders (one can be a struggle let alone a number of them) however I will give it a shot when time permits (the reference to 'properly merged' is a scary thought). At present I will put up with the tabs missing, a pity though, Anne's template is so appealing. Maybe one day someone may revise the module such that it can integrate automatically with any template (if that is at all possible :) ).

    I'm not giving up .... just a tactical withdrawal to re-group.

    Cheers, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by shags38 View Post
    Diva, thanks very much for all your time and efforts to date trying to help me with this. I am not very proficient with merging of files or folders (one can be a struggle let alone a number of them) however I will give it a shot when time permits (the reference to 'properly merged' is a scary thought). At present I will put up with the tabs missing, a pity though, Anne's template is so appealing. Maybe one day someone may revise the module such that it can integrate automatically with any template (if that is at all possible :) ).

    I'm not giving up .... just a tactical withdrawal to re-group.

    Cheers, Mike
    This module WILL integrate with ANY template.. There is NOTHING that needs to be done or revised to this module to make it "integrate automatically with any template". I have said this many times, and I'm not sure how I can make any CLEARER what THE issue is.. The template you are using is integrated with a module called "Tabbed Home Page Modules". "Tabbed Home Page Modules" is not a unique module made JUST for the Abbington Mega template.. It is a add-on like any other add-on that ANYONE using ANY TEMPLATE can download and install.

    "Tabbed Home Page Modules" does NOT (but should) include the tab code on the "tpl_index_categories.php" file. With this code missing, IF you have categories set to display on the home page, the tabs will NOT display. This is why I referenced the post by GAM on the "Tabbed Home Page Modules" support thread..

    In order to get this module to work WITH "Tabbed Home Page Modules", you must make the changes from the post by GAM in the "Tabbed Home Page Modules" support thread to add the "Tabbed Home Page Modules" code to the "tpl_index_categories.php" file, then you must merge the code from this module with the following files from the "Tabbed Home Page Modules" module.


    • tpl_index_default.php
    • tpl_index_categories.php


    Now despite the fact that you do not seem to want to believe me when I say this THIS is the issue summarized.. It's NOT the template.. You simply do not have the files merged correctly.

    I would strongly suggest that if this a bit over your head to do, you REALLY should to give some thought to simply hiring someone to help you merge these two modules so that they work together..
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    Default Re: Editable Home Page Centerboxes

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    This module WILL integrate with ANY template.. There is NOTHING that needs to be done or revised to this module to make it "integrate automatically with any template". I have said this many times, and I'm not sure how I can make any CLEARER what THE issue is.. The template you are using is integrated with a module called "Tabbed Home Page Modules". "Tabbed Home Page Modules" is not a unique module made JUST for the Abbington Mega template.. It is a add-on like any other add-on that ANYONE using ANY TEMPLATE can download and install.

    "Tabbed Home Page Modules" does NOT (but should) include the tab code on the "tpl_index_categories.php" file. With this code missing, IF you have categories set to display on the home page, the tabs will NOT display. This is why I referenced the post by GAM on the "Tabbed Home Page Modules" support thread..

    In order to get this module to work WITH "Tabbed Home Page Modules", you must make the changes from the post by GAM in the "Tabbed Home Page Modules" support thread to add the "Tabbed Home Page Modules" code to the "tpl_index_categories.php" file, then you must merge the code from this module with the following files from the "Tabbed Home Page Modules" module.


    • tpl_index_default.php
    • tpl_index_categories.php


    Now despite the fact that you do not seem to want to believe me when I say this THIS is the issue summarized.. It's NOT the template.. You simply do not have the files merged correctly.

    I would strongly suggest that if this a bit over your head to do, you REALLY should to give some thought to simply hiring someone to help you merge these two modules so that they work together..
    Starship Enterprise to Houston - message received loud and clear. Editable Home Page Centerboxes can be used with any template except if that template is using Tabbed Home Page Modules integrally in which case certain files from Tabbed Home Page Modules and Editable Home Page Centerboxes need to be merged and then loaded into the template being used - simple really, left hand introduces itself to right hand so they can handle things together.

    As I said previously, I will look to try to do the merging of the files - wish me luck. I am asking Anne to have a look at it for me given that of the 3 components involved (template and 2 plugins) she is the author of 2 and given that one plugin is actually integral in her template design and not actually a plugin any more, as such she may be able to actually merge the required files successfully from the 3, which is really now only 2, and then post the merged files and everyone using her template will get the benefit of such a merger.

    Again Diva, many thanks for all your help to date.

    cheers,
    Mike

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    The "pre-installation" of a module doesn't mean it's no longer a module.. but you are insistent on seeing things in this manner.. **shrugs**

    You really should take my advice and seek some paid assistance. Wish you luck..

    Quote Originally Posted by shags38 View Post
    Starship Enterprise to Houston - message received loud and clear. Editable Home Page Centerboxes can be used with any template except if that template is using Tabbed Home Page Modules integrally in which case certain files from Tabbed Home Page Modules and Editable Home Page Centerboxes need to be merged and then loaded into the template being used - simple really, left hand introduces itself to right hand so they can handle things together.

    As I said previously, I will look to try to do the merging of the files - wish me luck. I am asking Anne to have a look at it for me given that of the 3 components involved (template and 2 plugins) she is the author of 2 and given that one plugin is actually integral in her template design and not actually a plugin any more, as such she may be able to actually merge the required files successfully from the 3, which is really now only 2, and then post the merged files and everyone using her template will get the benefit of such a merger.

    Again Diva, many thanks for all your help to date.

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    I'm not home so I can't look at anything right now but you're going to have to compare the 1.3 .9 code to 1.5 .1 code I'm not sure what the differences are but they're probably minor But you need to start with making sure that all the files that these two mods have in common are properly merged..
    Diva, thanks very much for all your time and efforts to date trying to help me with this. I am not very proficient with merging of files or folders (one can be a struggle let alone a number of them) however I will give it a shot when time permits (the reference to 'properly merged' is a scary thought). At present I will put up with the tabs missing, a pity though, Anne's template is so appealing. Maybe one day someone may revise the module such that it can integrate automatically with any template (if that is at all possible :) ).

    I'm not giving up .... just a tactical withdrawal to re-group.

    Cheers, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by shags38 View Post
    Diva, thanks very much for all your time and efforts to date trying to help me with this. I am not very proficient with merging of files or folders (one can be a struggle let alone a number of them) however I will give it a shot when time permits (the reference to 'properly merged' is a scary thought). At present I will put up with the tabs missing, a pity though, Anne's template is so appealing. Maybe one day someone may revise the module such that it can integrate automatically with any template (if that is at all possible :) ).

    I'm not giving up .... just a tactical withdrawal to re-group.

    Cheers, Mike
    Can't help if you don't stick it through.. You say you are not proficient with merging, but so far you've not provided ANY DETAILS on what you did.. What merging tools are you using??? are you using a merging tool at all?? Are you getting errors (on-screen in the error logs)?? What are those errors???

    You want "bouncing ball" instructions??? I have provided that with regards to what has to be done.. If you are looking for "bouncing ball" instructions for your selected file merging program, this forum has NEVER been the place to get those kinds of "bouncing ball" instructions.

    and NONE of this matters if you keep saying "I tried, it's broken.. help me" without providing any of the TINIEST bit of information to help determine what went wrong to get you on track..

    All this to say that if you want help, then help the community help you.. Otherwise you can simply wait and hope someone using both of these mods comes along an posts the code you need all the while blaming ME for you not getting this worked out...

    Would love to help.. you gotta meet me halfway..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    Can't help if you don't stick it through.. You say you are not proficient with merging, but so far you've not provided ANY DETAILS on what you did.. What merging tools are you using??? are you using a merging tool at all?? Are you getting errors (on-screen in the error logs)?? What are those errors???

    You want "bouncing ball" instructions??? I have provided that with regards to what has to be done.. If you are looking for "bouncing ball" instructions for your selected file merging program, this forum has NEVER been the place to get those kinds of "bouncing ball" instructions.

    and NONE of this matters if you keep saying "I tried, it's broken.. help me" without providing any of the TINIEST bit of information to help determine what went wrong to get you on track..

    All this to say that if you want help, then help the community help you.. Otherwise you can simply wait and hope someone using both of these mods comes along an posts the code you need all the while blaming ME for you not getting this worked out...

    Would love to help.. you gotta meet me halfway..
    Diva, I have no time for rhetoric or control play. Why is it you ask for these details now? Why ask again for something you already know?

    merge tool = WinMerge ... I did not ask for nor do I want instructions on using WinMerge
    files merged = as per post to Anne
    Here is what I have done on my latest attempt; merged includes/templates/abbington_mega/templates/tpl_index_default.php from Abbington Mega template with file of same name from Editable Home Page Centerboxes plugin and, merged includes/templates/abbington_mega/templates/tpl_index_categories.php from Editable Home Page Centerboxes plugin with the file of same name written by GAM as posted in the Tabbed Home Page Modules thread. This resulted in the blank page.
    result of last merge = as per above ... have also merged /tpl_index_default.php from template with tpl_index_categories.php from the plugin with no resultant effect, status quo (tabs missing)
    am I merging the files correctly = I believe so
    am I getting errors = no
    am I merging the correct files = not really sure - this is I think the main issue
    do I think I could get a good result after being shown/told exactly which files from where to merge = yes ... if not then I will pay someone to do it, but not before I can tell them exactly which files need merging
    am I confident I can compare the install files for EHPCB version for 1.3.9h to v1.5.1 as you suggested previously = no not really, not a set of folders with so many files
    do I blame you for not getting a result by now = yes, because you have persisted on lecturing rather than teaching, there is a difference. It is obvious I do not know which files, "exactly, specifically, from where exactly, specifically" ... to merge ... I have merged the ones I believe I should have but to no avail. I followed these instructions from the installation guide but there is nothing here that says what to merge /tpl_index_categories.php if it is not already installed in the template.
    If your template already has the following files included includes/templates/YOUR_TEMPLATE/templates/tpl_index_default.php, includes/templates/YOUR_TEMPLATE/templates/tpl_index_categories.php you will need to use a tool like Winmerge or Beyond Compare to merge your template's file with the one included in this module
    ... yes I know we are past that now, but I use it as an example of lack of specifics for dummies like me, i.e. what to do next if that isn't the case.

    I do not want my hand held, I simply want clear and concise instructions on what where how when and why - not generalities of look in this folder or that module, its there (not an accurate facsimile of what you actually said but you get my drift). I get the help to a degree then self help is a great teacher thing but it is not working in this instance.

    I have seen literally hundreds of your posts over the past 3 years or so, most of them so specific, even with code included and highlighted but all I seem to be getting is generalities, getting the chapter but not the paragraph.

    I can copy and send you the merged files if you wish - just ask - I purposely haven't done that because I didn't see it as necessary but maybe it is.

    cheers,
    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by shags38 View Post
    Diva, I have no time for rhetoric or control play. Why is it you ask for these details now? Why ask again for something you already know?

    merge tool = WinMerge ... I did not ask for nor do I want instructions on using WinMerge
    files merged = as per post to Anne
    result of last merge = as per above ... have also merged /tpl_index_default.php from template with tpl_index_categories.php from the plugin with no resultant effect, status quo (tabs missing)
    am I merging the files correctly = I believe so
    am I getting errors = no
    am I merging the correct files = not really sure - this is I think the main issue
    do I think I could get a good result after being shown/told exactly which files from where to merge = yes ... if not then I will pay someone to do it, but not before I can tell them exactly which files need merging
    am I confident I can compare the install files for EHPCB version for 1.3.9h to v1.5.1 as you suggested previously = no not really, not a set of folders with so many files
    do I blame you for not getting a result by now = yes, because you have persisted on lecturing rather than teaching, there is a difference. It is obvious I do not know which files, "exactly, specifically, from where exactly, specifically" ... to merge ... I have merged the ones I believe I should have but to no avail. I followed these instructions from the installation guide but there is nothing here that says what to merge /tpl_index_categories.php if it is not already installed in the template. ... yes I know we are past that now, but I use it as an example of lack of specifics for dummies like me, i.e. what to do next if that isn't the case.

    I do not want my hand held, I simply want clear and concise instructions on what where how when and why - not generalities of look in this folder or that module, its there (not an accurate facsimile of what you actually said but you get my drift). I get the help to a degree then self help is a great teacher thing but it is not working in this instance.

    I have seen literally hundreds of your posts over the past 3 years or so, most of them so specific, even with code included and highlighted but all I seem to be getting is generalities, getting the chapter but not the paragraph.

    I can copy and send you the merged files if you wish - just ask - I purposely haven't done that because I didn't see it as necessary but maybe it is.

    cheers,
    Mike

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    Right.. and I have nottime to be TOLD that I'm not helping along with all the MANY accusations you keep leveling at me in this entire exercise.. **sigh**

    So let me start with this salient point.. Part of the reason NO ONE ELSE has responded to your pleas thus far is that either NO ONE is using both of these modules together or they don't want to share how they've gotten them to work together.. I am in the former category.. So that DETAILED code you are looking for I cannot give you.. I don't use these modules together and would have to setup a test instance JUST to provide you with the detailed code you say I am purposely not posting (ie: provide you with the already merged code). I am pretty tied up right now on other projects and just don't have time to do this, but I CAN try and help YOU work through this which I have said REPEATEDLY I will do..

    Now after this post if you still want to accuse me of posting rhetoric, lecturing rather than teaching, generalities, not wanting to help, and every other accusation you have made, then I'm gonna simply move on and you can simply WAIT for someone who happens to use BOTH of these add-ons together to happen along and post the code you need in full..

    That said, go back to my earlier posts.. I explain which files these two modules have in common.. I explain that one of these files does not exist in the Home Page Tabs module, BUT that the post by GAM shows how to create that file.. ONCE you have GAM's changes in place and have tested that they work with the Home Page Tabs, then you need to merge the Home Page Tabs modules with this module..

    After that you need to post the results.. You said you are getting blank pages.. usually that means an error log would be generated.. what did the error log say?? What else happens after you merge the code??

    Now perhaps this isn't the detail YOU need/want.. I've posted similar kinds of instructions many time on this forum, and no one has had an issue with this or accused me of lecturing/withholding information.. Perhaps what you are looking for/need is someone to post the merged code.. I cannot do that right now.. I CAN and will help walk you through this if you follow these instructions and post your results so I can try and help you troubleshoot this. If isn't what you want/need, then I don't know how else I or anyone else who doesn't have this merged code working can help you..
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