Stock by Attribute v4.0 addon for v1.3.5-1.3.9

[Malaperth]

Thank you for the help, jeking. I would still be tearing my hair out if it was not for your help. And as far as adding a product with a zero quantity, what I have installed for Stock With Attributes simply refuses to list it whether I want it listed or not.

Mal

[jeking]

I don't understand your question. Can you clarify?

[Malaperth]

I thought you mentioned a zero quantity product in your last message. While adding products to the Stock With Attributes list so they can be used, if I try to add a product with a zero quantity, and in the section where you give a product a quantity to be displayed in the dropdown, when you look at the site, that product is not in the drop-down list, nor is it displayed as "Out of Stock", it simply is not there.

Mal

[jeking]

I thought you mentioned a zero quantity product in your last message. While adding products to the Stock With Attributes list so they can be used, if I try to add a product with a zero quantity, and in the section where you give a product a quantity to be displayed in the dropdown, when you look at the site, that product is not in the drop-down list, nor is it displayed as "Out of Stock", it simply is not there.

Mal

What are you doing when 'adding products to the Stock With Attributes list'? I'm guessing you are actually using 'Add Quantity For Product Variant'. If so, can you include a screen shot and the product url?

[Malaperth]

Not anymore. I deleted all the zero-quantity products I mentioned (I mentioned that in an earlier post). Try it for yourself and we'll then see if it's just something I did.

(at this point, it's no big deal as I've convinced the customer that showing every option for every product, even if it's out of stock, is going to annoy the hell out of site users so she decided it was ok not to show everything, but at least on my end, even if I wanted to, I cannot).

Mal

[jeking]

Not anymore. I deleted all the zero-quantity products I mentioned (I mentioned that in an earlier post). Try it for yourself and we'll then see if it's just something I did.

(at this point, it's no big deal as I've convinced the customer that showing every option for every product, even if it's out of stock, is going to annoy the hell out of site users so she decided it was ok not to show everything, but at least on my end, even if I wanted to, I cannot).

Mal

I'm not clear on what you did (deleted all the zero-quantity products - Deleting products is unrelated to this plugin) nor do I have a cart set-up like you did, so couldn't duplicate it anyway. Sorry.

[Malaperth]

"Deleting products is unrelated to this plugin"

So if I delete a product, the attributes stay? And the cart has nothing to do with the issue I describe. The products I have added through Stock By Attribute, if when I set them up with their quantities, if I input a quantity of zero, they do not show up in the drop-down menu of the product. But at any rate, it's mostly irrelevant now that I have convinced the customer she doesn't need to show every single variant of every single product she sells. And again, I thank you for your help.

Mal

[DivaVocals]

"Deleting products is unrelated to this plugin"

So if I delete a product, the attributes stay? And the cart has nothing to do with the issue I describe. The products I have added through Stock By Attribute, if when I set them up with their quantities, if I input a quantity of zero, they do not show up in the drop-down menu of the product. But at any rate, it's mostly irrelevant now that I have convinced the customer she doesn't need to show every single variant of every single product she sells. And again, I thank you for your help.

Mal

The way this is designed if a product variant is out of stock it WILL NOT show up in the dropdown.. ONLY the variants which HAVE STOCK quantities associated with them will show in the dropdowns.. Is THIS what you are asking about??? (like jeking, I am not clear about what it is you are asking or saying the module is or is NOT doing..)

[mc12345678]

The way this is designed if a product variant is out of stock it WILL NOT show up in the dropdown.. ONLY the variants which HAVE STOCK quantities associated with them will show in the dropdowns.. Is THIS what you are asking about??? (like jeking, I am not clear about what it is you are asking or saying the module is or is NOT doing..)

From my read of the discussion, I think the above summarizes "the issue". I think the misunderstanding of the plugin showing variants with a stock of zero originated from the discussion of the missing type casting done for quantity in the code provided for ZC 1.5.3 that was in essence pointed out and really only discovered when a value of zero is entered.

As for the possibility of showing variants or at least combinations of variants that are out-of-stock/quantity of zero, I believe there is another plugin that is considered compatible with this version of SBA that can provide a sort of cross reference (table like structure having rows and columns) for a combination of two attributes at a time. I believe this would present attributes/combinations of attributes that might otherwise be available and reflect that they are out-of-stock or similar. I think it is called grid by attribute or something similar. It may be that the store owner would need to add text into the description to identify the attributes that normally might be available and indicate that those missing from the list are not available or some similar wording. It's a thought/patch to the programming side.

Fyi and fwiw, the way that this plugin has been rewritten, unless every desirable combination of attributes is populated in the applicable database, a blanket, this is what is possible type query would result in a huge list as a result of the added functionality of being able to stock all the combinations of attributes associated with a product. (At least for a product that starts to have say three or more attributes with multiple values in each attribute name.)

[Malaperth]

In post 1920, jeking, I believe it was, gave a link to a site that showed certain variations of a product as "Out Of Stock". This one particular customer (until I talked her out of it) wanted to show every variety of every item she sold even if the stock level was zero so customers could see all the variations she offered. It seems that when an item has originally been entered into SBA with a quantity above zero, it will show in the drop-down as Out Of Stock once the stock has been sold. You cannot, it seems, enter a product into SBA, then when entering quantities, give it a value of zero and have it show up in the drop-down list. I convinced the customer that this was "ill advised" (not the wording I wanted to use) because it would irritate the hell out of a customer to have to look through 30 "Out Of Stock" items just to find out what the heck WAS in stock. There are situations where this would be useful, however. Let's say you're just starting up a T-shirt shop and we'll only stick with one attribute for the moment. Once you get the money, you will be offering sizes from 2T up to 4X, but at the moment all you have is small, medium, large, 1x and 2x. You may want to show the other sizes as choices listed as Out Of Stock since you will be selling them soon and don't want customers to think those are the only sizes you will offer. Now, that may be a lame example, and if you had lots of variations, that could get out of hand quickly and actually drive people away from your site, but, at the time, that is what my customer wanted and the option to do that was not there, that's all.

Mal