Image Handler 4 (for v1.5.x) Support Thread

[enzo-ita]

HI,
I am testing this fantastic plugin in a test site. I wish I found about it before!!!! However I have a small problem. IN the main product page if I click on the image in order to see the large version, the image is loaded but the popup windows does not enlarge so to see the image you need to enlarge it manually. It is a 1.5.5a version.
I hoe thsi can be adjusted because I really love this plugin and I am ready to revamp all the images of the site. Thanks. Ciao from Italy. enzo

[enzo-ita]

HI,
I am testing this fantastic plugin in a test site. I wish I found about it before!!!! However I have a small problem. IN the main product page if I click on the image in order to see the large version, the image is loaded but the popup windows does not enlarge so to see the image you need to enlarge it manually. It is a 1.5.5a version.
I hoe thsi can be adjusted because I really love this plugin and I am ready to revamp all the images of the site. Thanks. Ciao from Italy. enzo

OK. I found this problem but now I have another one.
Tje watermark is not used on product listing while it used in small medium and large images. I am assuming that in product listing the image used is the small, so it sounds impossible to me what happens, but it is there to be seen
http://www.aupgrade.acqu atua.it/addolcitori-autotrol
http://www.aupgrade.acqu atua.it/addolcitore-autotrol-da-1100-litri-ora
Can someone tell me what to look for?
Thanks
enzo

[enzo-ita]

Hi, I am proceeding with test of this plug in but I am aving another problem now.
Google pagespeed give me a worse scoring if I use this plig in with the big original images I have. It says I should use loseless compression. I wonder if they are right or not and, if they are, what's wrong. Thanks. enzo

[mc12345678]

OK. I found this problem but now I have another one.
Tje watermark is not used on product listing while it used in small medium and large images. I am assuming that in product listing the image used is the small, so it sounds impossible to me what happens, but it is there to be seen
http://www.aupgrade.acqu atua.it/addolcitori-autotrol
http://www.aupgrade.acqu atua.it/addolcitore-autotrol-da-1100-litri-ora
Can someone tell me what to look for?
Thanks
enzo

With regards to what image is presented, the "reasoning" or history behind it is discussed in the plugin documentation and as I recall multiple times throughout this thread. The image is to be the medium sized image, and a properly "programmed" template using the zen_image function would/should apply the watermark as far as I recall.

[enzo-ita]

With regards to what image is presented, the "reasoning" or history behind it is discussed in the plugin documentation and as I recall multiple times throughout this thread. The image is to be the medium sized image, and a properly "programmed" template using the zen_image function would/should apply the watermark as far as I recall.

Thank for answering.
I did not notice in the installation instructions that the small size images will no get the watermark, and actually it is not so. They get the watermark but only on the attribute images and not in the product listing. There is the setting that allow you to select if watermark smalll images or not, however. May be I am not understanding something but as far as I know we have three image classe: 1) normal 2) medium 3) large. Plus there are the 4) attributes images. ON 2,3,4 the images are watermarked on 1 no. If this is how it should work it is ok for me since this is a real piece of softwrae howver, but I would like a confirmation or a suggestion on what to watch to mek it working correctly.
It remains also to be understood if google page speed is just trowing scores without reasons or if they are right, and if they are right how much this will influence the ranking.
Thanks
enzo

[mc12345678]

Thank for answering.
I did not notice in the installation instructions that the small size images will no get the watermark, and actually it is not so. They get the watermark but only on the attribute images and not in the product listing. There is the setting that allow you to select if watermark smalll images or not, however. May be I am not understanding something but as far as I know we have three image classe: 1) normal 2) medium 3) large. Plus there are the 4) attributes images. ON 2,3,4 the images are watermarked on 1 no. If this is how it should work it is ok for me since this is a real piece of softwrae howver, but I would like a confirmation or a suggestion on what to watch to mek it working correctly.
It remains also to be understood if google page speed is just trowing scores without reasons or if they are right, and if they are right how much this will influence the ranking.
Thanks
enzo

I believe that in the aggravation of trying to get the desired result(s) that my previous post was also not understood. So, for you to see what is going on, I suggest the following test to prove things to yourself. First of all, small is a relative term. The popup images could be displayed as the smallest size image, but that would defeat the purpose of someone clicking to see a "larger" image. The thumbnails (small) images could be displayed larger than any other picture, but then again, that too would not make sense because they are supposed to be small, not large.

So, now comes the "how's it work" part. If you upload the single largest resolution picture of a product using IH4, then that image will be resized as necessary for viewing as a small (think thumbnail), medium (typically the product information), and large (popup image for clicking on an image to zoom in on it). The original file remains on the server and from what I have seen, if the original image has a resolution lower than the larger image, then no resizing is performed on the image, because it doesn't need to be shrunk, but that's another story.

Now, when viewing the admin window for IH4 after that upload, there are three image locations that can have an image applied. The default image, the medium image and the large image. If no medium or large image are uploaded, then the default image applies to all of them. If a medium sized image is then uploaded, then the medium image will be used wherever medium is identified in the code, and the default image will be used for all other images. Now if a large image is loaded, then the large image will be used wherever large is used, the medium wherever medium is used, and the remaining locations will use the default image (yes I know small).

Regarding the watermark, and again, IH4 only works on images that are generated using the ZC PHP code of zen_image, there are three settings related to watermarks, one for each sized image... The watermark is applied to the image(s) that are "designated" as that size. For example, typically on the main/home page the small images are coded to be used in say the specials, new, and featured product listings as well as on the side(s). This is also true on the product_listing page(s). The medium image is typically used for the main product image when looking at the product image field. So, let's assume that you only wanted a watermark to be applied to small images, then that setting when turned on, would apply the watermark to each of the above locations except on the product info page for the main product. It would show for the additional images though...

Now, I mentioned a "test"... Based on the above discussion, upload a completely different image to say the medium image position for the product and navigate through the store to see where that image is used/applied. It ought to appear as the main product image on the product info page, but as you insert/swap images around, you should be able to see the results and prove to yourself, which image is displayed at which location and whether there is a problem with your template's display of the main image or not.

[enzo-ita]

Hi,
I really appreciate your effort in explaining how it works.

Let me ask in this way:
1) If I set the watermarking to yes for the three settings provided by the plugin should I see ALL images watermarked aywere they are published in the site?
If the answer is YES then there is something wrong if the answer is NO that ìs what I see, IE in the category product lisitng (tpl_product_list.php) the images are not watermarked.
2) If I load the biggest images I have and then activate IH

• without changing the settings of the images size in the zen cart image handler configuration
• without any compression software installed in the server,

should google page speed give abetter scoring for the site compare with my images set that I compressed and loaded watermarked in the "small" and medìium folder? itìf yes then there is somenthing wrog, if NO then i is waht I see but I do not understand if it is google that is fooling me or if they are actually detecting images not compressed enough, hence too big.

I hope I made it clear enough with my english far from being perfect, if it is not clear, be patient and try again, there are cances that I can understand after a while...
Ciao ciao

[enzo-ita]

Hi,
I really appreciate your effort in explaining how it works.

Let me ask in this way:
1) If I set the watermarking to yes for the three settings provided by the plugin should I see ALL images watermarked aywere they are published in the site?
If the answer is YES then there is something wrong if the answer is NO that ìs what I see, IE in the category product lisitng (tpl_product_list.php) the images are not watermarked.
2) If I just activate the IH without any change on the images set

• without changing the settings of the images size in the zen cart image handler configuration
• without any compression software installed in the server,

should google page speed give a better scoring for the site compare with IH not activated?
If yes then there is somenthing wrong, if NO then i is what I see but I do not understand if it is google that is fooling me or if they are actually detecting images not compressed enough, hence too big.

I hope I made it clear enough with my english far from being perfect, if it is not clear, be patient and try again, there are cances that I can understand after a while...
Ciao ciao

[enzo-ita]

Hi,
I really appreciate your effort in explaining how it works.

Let me ask in this way:
1) If I set the watermarking to yes for the three settings provided by the plugin should I see ALL images watermarked anywere they are published in the site?
If the answer is YES then there is something wrong if the answer is NO that ìs what I see, IE in the category product lisitng (tpl_product_list.php) the images are not watermarked.
2) If I just activate the IH without any change on the images set

• without changing the settings of the images size in the zen cart image handler configuration
• without any compression software installed in the server,

should google page speed give a better scoring for the site compare with IH not activated?
If yes then there is somenthing wrong, if NO then i is what I see but I do not understand if it is google that is fooling me or if they are actually detecting images not compressed enough, hence too big.

I hope I made it clear enough with my english far from being perfect, if it is not clear, be patient and try again, there are cances that I can understand after a while...
Ciao ciao

[enzo-ita]

Hi,
I really appreciate your effort in explaining how it works.

Let me ask in this way:
1) If I set the watermarking to yes for the three settings provided by the plugin should I see ALL images watermarked anywere they are published in the site?
If the answer is YES then there is something wrong if the answer is NO that ìs what I see, IE in the category product lisitng (tpl_product_list.php) the images are not watermarked.
2) If I just activate the IH

• without any change on the images set that I loaded watermarked and compressed
• without changing the settings of the images size in the zen cart image handler configuration
• without any compression software installed in the server,

should google page speed give a better scoring for the site compare with IH not activated?
If yes then there is somenthing wrong, if NO then i is what I see but I do not understand if it is google that is fooling me or if they are actually detecting images not compressed enough, hence too big.

I hope I made it clear enough with my english far from being perfect, if it is not clear, be patient and try again, there are cances that I can understand after a while...
Ciao ciao