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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I have no idea what priority you have on this project, or how much revenue is at stake. I can see you have had a lot of trouble and frustration. People on this forum will absolutely help, but replies back and forth will be slow, and lacking access, we won't always see the gotcha issue.
    There are people who deal with these upgrades for a fee, and lat9 who has been helping you is the one ofthem i would first recomend if she has time for another client right now. If not, there are several others. Not saying you can't do it, but if your tired of it, there are options.
    My personal guess is that your old db has various corruption that will need fixed before upgrading. Might try the audit plugin on the old site as it can find some of it.
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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    Quote Originally Posted by gothstone View Post
    I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I have no idea what priority you have on this project, or how much revenue is at stake. I can see you have had a lot of trouble and frustration. People on this forum will absolutely help, but replies back and forth will be slow, and lacking access, we won't always see the gotcha issue.
    There are people who deal with these upgrades for a fee, and lat9 who has been helping you is the one ofthem i would first recomend if she has time for another client right now. If not, there are several others. Not saying you can't do it, but if your tired of it, there are options.
    My personal guess is that your old db has various corruption that will need fixed before upgrading. Might try the audit plugin on the old site as it can find some of it.

    I wouldn't mind but then I---like with the older version---need to learn the "new atuff" to keep maintaining it. That and always broke is why I try and try and eventually win. BUT will keep that in mind for if my head actually implodes...LOL

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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    Not only are responses slow, store owners often try several Bandaids while waiting on an answer.

    Installation/Upgrade is a whole different ballgame than maintenance/additions.

    IMHO, you are skipping/missing some steps/notifications along the way to a site ready to be maintained.

    Bandaids applied during installation/upgrade generally result in festering sores somewhere down the line.

    Get some help to create the foundation your operation needs.

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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    Not only are responses slow, store owners often try several Bandaids while waiting on an answer.

    Installation/Upgrade is a whole different ballgame than maintenance/additions.

    IMHO, you are skipping/missing some steps/notifications along the way to a site ready to be maintained.

    Bandaids applied during installation/upgrade generally result in festering sores somewhere down the line.

    Get some help to create the foundation your operation needs.

    I'm certain that something did not get done right which is why I was going to try upgrading from 1.3.9h however, I got no upgrades done because it told me that my old database is not allowed anymore by myPHPadmin area since it is for 7.4PHP and they do not allow cURL to be installed within the structure anymore--PHP server put it on the cloud. I then just did the upgrades for the 1.5 to 2.0.1 and see the pages like they should be. I need to get with PayPal and see how to install their new payment methods. I find I will need to insert the information manually into the table from the old DB or the product/merchant/promos into the store by hand from admin.

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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    Now we are getting somwhere! Zencart still requires curl! You need a new host. But you can drag over the old DB, and the upgrade will probably go better on a server with the proper requirements.
    https://docs.zen-cart.com/user/first...#mysql-version
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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    well ai shall get hold of the host and let them know that I need cURL to be installed and then see if it behaves, yes it let me install v2.0.1 but it did say that about cURL. This host has been very helpful, more so than any of the others we've had. maybe he will know how to get it and I also don't really mind taking all off the server once more then reinstalling it again to screenshot everything it says is not right.

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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    ok, this is what the host just sent me. He worked on it and tomorrow I will remove all, then install first trying with my DB then recording any errors it may spit out. Then try again with only the empty DB.

    He said to share this link with you:
    Code:
    https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/phpCZinfo.php
    He said this also:
    Curl is enabled and has OpenSSL/1.1.1k (you can search that in the PHPinfo page above).

    As for this:
    Apache modules
    The Apache configuration must have AllowOverride set to All or at least Limit Indexes Options. (Without this the .htaccess rules will fail and trigger 500 Server Error errors.)
    Recommended Apache modules include: expires, headers, env, alias, deflate, ssl, http2, mime, phpX, rewrite (in addition to other standard/default modules for a typical webserver serving PHP applications).


    In Apache I see these aren’t currently enabled:

    Mod_env (available but not installed)
    Mod_vhost_alias (available but not installed)
    phpX (don’t see this as an option at the moment and don’t see much on google – Maybe they’re just referring to “PHP version x” meaning PHP itself must be enabled?)

    Can you ask if these are a requirement?

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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    Your config we can see looks pretty sane.
    Apache Modules: No, they aren't required, but they are recomended.
    Env - just get your host to turn it on, it should be considered a requirement
    Vhost-alias - id mod_alias is in you dont necessarily need vhost_alias. Depends on servers config. You do need at least one.
    Phpx - this is already installed. Looks like they are using php-fpm which is fine.

    Note: with php 8.3 and mysql 8.3 you must install zencart 2 or higher. The zc_install for 1.5.8 should have failed in php 8.3.
    After your host verifies apache config, since they are so helpfull, ask them to download zc 2.0.1 directly to the server and unzip it to an empty directory for you. That will eliminate any file upload issues for you. You can then run zcinstall and get a clean blank store. If that has an issue, send up any on screen errors and logs. If it works your setup is definately valid and you can load a copy of your old DB, reupload zcinstall folder, and try it as a database upgrade. Again, send any errors you encounter.
    The only zcinstall error you can ignore is the gzip disabled as its frequently wrong. Anything else should be reported.
    2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2

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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    Quote Originally Posted by gothstone View Post
    Your config we can see looks pretty sane.
    Apache Modules: No, they aren't required, but they are recomended.
    Env - just get your host to turn it on, it should be considered a requirement
    Vhost-alias - id mod_alias is in you dont necessarily need vhost_alias. Depends on servers config. You do need at least one.
    Phpx - this is already installed. Looks like they are using php-fpm which is fine.

    Note: with php 8.3 and mysql 8.3 you must install zencart 2 or higher. The zc_install for 1.5.8 should have failed in php 8.3.
    After your host verifies apache config, since they are so helpfull, ask them to download zc 2.0.1 directly to the server and unzip it to an empty directory for you. That will eliminate any file upload issues for you. You can then run zcinstall and get a clean blank store. If that has an issue, send up any on screen errors and logs. If it works your setup is definately valid and you can load a copy of your old DB, reupload zcinstall folder, and try it as a database upgrade. Again, send any errors you encounter.
    The only zcinstall error you can ignore is the gzip disabled as its frequently wrong. Anything else should be reported.

    ok, I removed everything last night since I couldn't sleep with this flu, and after I installed it, I went and yes they all failed with 8.3 so I installed 2.0.1

    there were no error messages. I did just that, took down everything, uploaded the zip -- it is so much faster and easier to get the files up there...LOL Ran the installer, no errors, emptied not dropped the tables and inserted the sql database throough the "insert" tab. Again no errors and the only thing I noticed is that my own admin was replaced with the one on the DB inserted.

    I then used the zc_installer again to do the upgrade -- no issues except that when it came time to enter the superuser name it would not let me -- it said the one entry was not there and yup. it was gone. I see that it actually didn't replace the info but the entire tables. I can't remember the name, maybe admin profile sooo Iemptied them again ran the installer and got ready but even after that it still would not let me continue, stating the superuser name was not valid. Used the instructions to inter the Admin user info and it still won't behave.

    I thought today I would reinstall the software fresh, using the old DB at the beginning but I am afraid that will just make it a clean install where I will need to go through the other way again.

    Do you know if there are other additional info lines with the other tables? Since the old DB seems to replace not just insert the information I should just insert thru the actual table sql area not thru the insert area.

    Sorry if I confused you, that is my specialty, but I don't really want to bother my host with things right now, he/wife had a death in the family and dealing with that.

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    Default Re: trouble with paradise--admin/market dame link

    It might just be your description, but the way you describe replacing the database is weird. You shouldn't be just putting in data or laying one on top the other. You should:
    1. Drop or delete the existing 2.0.1 database.
    2. Create a new database of the same name.
    3. Restore a backup of the old 1.3.9 database.
    4. If you don't know the old admin user/pass just create a new one following this doc: https://docs.zen-cart.com/user/troub...t%20'admin'.
    5. Run zc_install selecting upgrade, not clean install

    There should be no need to touch the fileset at all (beyond zc_install), you should currently have a clean 2.0.1 file set. You just need to correctly restore the old database and upgrade it with zc_install.
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