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    Default Re: Modern admin dashboard

    Thats better. With some minor tweaking I'm getting used to the headings. I think it is a good effort and I'll continue to use it.

    Testing on ZC 2.2.0
    Some suggestions.
    • change leaf icon to home icon [ fa fa-leaf -> fa fa-home] Old-fashioned but I instantly know what it represents.
    • place inline styles in css file . This allows for local customisation. In Admin a lot of whitespace can be reduced
    • files-header-only\YOUR_ADMIN\includes\languages\lang.english.php needs updating eg missing ln140 BUTTON_SAVE_ALL' => 'Save All Changes', etc
      OR
      maybe save just your additions in lang.header.php to avoid overwrites. I have done this and placed your additions in lang.header.php in admin/includes/languages/english/extra_definitions and it is working well. I have my site overides here eg date formats, metric values, set locale etc


    • your have menu.css in both "\files-header-only\YOUR_ADMIN\css" and "\files-header-only\YOUR_ADMIN\includes\css"
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    Default Re: Modern admin dashboard

    Thanks for the feedback!

    menu.css - I think you downloaded the zip file just moments before I had updated it.

    BUTTON_SAVE_ALL - that's from v2.2.0 (from the configuration menu) and this set of files is meant for 2.1.0 (or earlier). lang.header.php is specific to the frontend, but extra_definitions might be a good idea, especially if it's going as a plugin - will do.

    Will make the changes as suggested (leaf icon and inline styles).

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    I tested the GitHub version and there was no problem. I really like it, it looks great!
    On this page the Widget I use the most is the order one to check for new orders or follow orders' flow in general. It is now at a better place in the screen, really easier to check.
    If you want some idea that might improve things (a little bit), why not use the space between the title 'New orders' and the button on the right 'View All' to add all the status possible colors with a count of orders beside (for each category). Like this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilou2 View Post
    I tested the GitHub version and there was no problem. I really like it, it looks great!
    On this page the Widget I use the most is the order one to check for new orders or follow orders' flow in general. It is now at a better place in the screen, really easier to check.
    Glad to hear you like it!
    Feel free to try the new header as well

    Quote Originally Posted by pilou2 View Post
    If you want some idea that might improve things (a little bit), why not use the space between the title 'New orders' and the button on the right 'View All' to add all the status possible colors with a count of orders beside (for each category). Like this:
    Name:  Capture d'écran 2026-01-14 024315.png
Views: 74
Size:  787 Bytes
    Not sure I quite understand this - what's the purpose of that when there's a sidebar box "Orders by Status". If you just move the Top Sellers to the top, it would be side by side with orders list...
    Also, are you suggesting to show ALL statuses in that space with the same counters that's currently in the sidebar? This would work with probably 3-4 statuses, but I have a client with 10 statuses - imagine the clutter this would cause... I can't decide which IDs are more important (someone might have ID 75 as Processing), and if you want to have admin control over which orders show and which don't, ugh...

    But as you mentioned all possible status colors - one thing I would LOVE to add is user-selected color code for each order status. It would require a new field in orders_status table and an input field on orders_status page, but it would allow the user to color-code each of their status as they wish - at the moment it's hard-coded (which I really hate) and only covers IDs 1-4, but you might want to see a red label for cancelled orders or purple label for delivered...
    And then the same color-coding can be used on the orders listing page (sample below). Not sure how the Team feels about it, but I'm more than happy to PR this.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    I've tried both and really like both. The new header seems to be a little more lenient when reaching the end of a dropdown.

    Customer feedback is mixed. As pilou2 pointed out, different parts of the page are important to some folks. One customer had us relocate the old orders (now Orders by Status) to its current position in the upper-right corner, as that was their primary focus. They often have to obtain supplies to fill orders, and they are seldom sent out in sequential order.

    Another customer wants the emphasis on New orders: as their orders always go out within 1 business day. Their New orders rarely have a "Processing" hidden on page 2 of the orders. <nitpickAlert> Mixed case often leads to missing important items. "New orders" does seem to be the only one.</nitpickAlert>

    In looking at the layout, I was wondering if each section could be moved to a preferred spot on the page. I was looking for something like the method lat9 uses for the Login-Page Layout (L;P,G,C;B) or the "slider" for the Layout Boxes Controller. With a method like either of those, you'd really make owners happy.

    I personally have my browser set to auto-zoom to 150% and use the largest font. Old age and trifocals will do that to you. Even when I go back to 100% and the recommended font, so much of the information is still "below the fold". To me, the top row and the dashboard SalesChart keep me from seeing items that I might want to see first. 385px high is a lot of real estate even on today's larger monitors. On mobile, even though the first item on the page is Orders Today, you're at the bottom of the second page before seeing New orders. If I'm looking for a specific customer to make an order, I'd have to do some scrolling to find it. Again, owner adjustment of the locations would be nice.

    I also wondered if, with the now available YOUR_ADMIN/includes/css/dist-site-specific-styles.php, it might be helpful to take the CSS out of the files and provide a quote-surrounded block to be added to the renamed site-specific-styles.php. Sort of keeping all the eggs in one basket. One slip editing the CSS in the mod's core has far worse implications than in the site-specific-styles.php.

    Also, Maximum Display of Orders on Orders Page is set to 20 yet the page only shows 10 orders.

    I'm fully aware of the saying about opinions and I really don't want to come across as denigrating your work. I fully support what you're doing here and will assist in whatever way I can. Coding, not so much. Nitpicky? I'm your man. Just ask haredo.
    A little help with colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balihr View Post
    Glad to hear you like it!
    Feel free to try the new header as well



    Not sure I quite understand this - what's the purpose of that when there's a sidebar box "Orders by Status". If you just move the Top Sellers to the top, it would be side by side with orders list...
    Also, are you suggesting to show ALL statuses in that space with the same counters that's currently in the sidebar? This would work with probably 3-4 statuses, but I have a client with 10 statuses - imagine the clutter this would cause... I can't decide which IDs are more important (someone might have ID 75 as Processing), and if you want to have admin control over which orders show and which don't, ugh...

    But as you mentioned all possible status colors - one thing I would LOVE to add is user-selected color code for each order status. It would require a new field in orders_status table and an input field on orders_status page, but it would allow the user to color-code each of their status as they wish - at the moment it's hard-coded (which I really hate) and only covers IDs 1-4, but you might want to see a red label for cancelled orders or purple label for delivered...
    And then the same color-coding can be used on the orders listing page (sample below). Not sure how the Team feels about it, but I'm more than happy to PR this.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	color-coding-status.jpg 
Views:	42 
Size:	34.5 KB 
ID:	21134
    custom coloring the label sound like a brilliant idea to me.
    additionally, while adding a field you could also add a "visible in widget" field for those people that set up a lot of order statuses but are not important for display in the homepage widget. it could also be extended, because I am a glutton for punishment, to be stored as custom settings per admin user. As different admin users may have different needs as to what order statuses are important to their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    I've tried both and really like both. The new header seems to be a little more lenient when reaching the end of a dropdown.
    Could you dumb this down for me, please? Keep in mind English is not my native language, I really don't know what you're saying here.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    Customer feedback is mixed. As pilou2 pointed out, different parts of the page are important to some folks. One customer had us relocate the old orders (now Orders by Status) to its current position in the upper-right corner, as that was their primary focus. They often have to obtain supplies to fill orders, and they are seldom sent out in sequential order.

    Another customer wants the emphasis on New orders: as their orders always go out within 1 business day. Their New orders rarely have a "Processing" hidden on page 2 of the orders. <nitpickAlert> Mixed case often leads to missing important items. "New orders" does seem to be the only one.</nitpickAlert>

    In looking at the layout, I was wondering if each section could be moved to a preferred spot on the page. I was looking for something like the method lat9 uses for the Login-Page Layout (L;P,G,C;B) or the "slider" for the Layout Boxes Controller. With a method like either of those, you'd really make owners happy.
    Brilliant idea and something I was actually considering to do, but I'd prefer to get this pushed into core code instead of making it a plugin (thus the PR for 2.2.0). The more complex we make it, the less chance of it becoming core so this was the bare minimum I could do.
    What I really wanted to do was to have a drag-and-drop grid (similar to layout boxes controller) where user would re-arrange dashboard widgets as they wish, but I'm afraid that would be too much to get adopted into core. So yeah, just a visually modernized dashboard and you still have to edit code to rearrange location (just like it currently is).

    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    I personally have my browser set to auto-zoom to 150% and use the largest font. Old age and trifocals will do that to you. Even when I go back to 100% and the recommended font, so much of the information is still "below the fold". To me, the top row and the dashboard SalesChart keep me from seeing items that I might want to see first. 385px high is a lot of real estate even on today's larger monitors. On mobile, even though the first item on the page is Orders Today, you're at the bottom of the second page before seeing New orders. If I'm looking for a specific customer to make an order, I'd have to do some scrolling to find it. Again, owner adjustment of the locations would be nice.
    I'm with you 100%, but again, same as above - you'd just have to edit the layout and arrange the boxes in code. Comparing it with the current dashboard, I'd say there more important content above the fold (statistics are at the top which I believe are the least important).
    But again, any user-friendly option to have it controlled from the admin means less chance of reaching core (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong as I'm more than happy to push this through and make it top notch).

    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    I also wondered if, with the now available YOUR_ADMIN/includes/css/dist-site-specific-styles.php, it might be helpful to take the CSS out of the files and provide a quote-surrounded block to be added to the renamed site-specific-styles.php. Sort of keeping all the eggs in one basket. One slip editing the CSS in the mod's core has far worse implications than in the site-specific-styles.php.
    If it gets rejected as core code, seems like a good idea. However, if it becomes just a "plugin", it will reach far less users so it's not really modernizing the platform (which I'm so desperately rooting for).

    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    Also, Maximum Display of Orders on Orders Page is set to 20 yet the page only shows 10 orders.
    Bug spotted!

    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    I'm fully aware of the saying about opinions and I really don't want to come across as denigrating your work. I fully support what you're doing here and will assist in whatever way I can. Coding, not so much. Nitpicky? I'm your man. Just ask haredo.
    Quite the opposite - I absolutely love comments and discussion, it almost always results in new ideas or improvements. My clients loved the redesign, didn't have a single complaint. Yours already have ideas or would like something different. I love it! The more people get involved, the more comments we can get and then decide on the final result. Can't please everyone (and there's always an option to do custom work), but if 7/10 people ask for the same thing, we probably do need to listen to that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barco57 View Post
    custom coloring the label sound like a brilliant idea to me.
    additionally, while adding a field you could also add a "visible in widget" field for those people that set up a lot of order statuses but are not important for display in the homepage widget.
    Ooooh, love that idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by barco57 View Post
    it could also be extended, because I am a glutton for punishment, to be stored as custom settings per admin user. As different admin users may have different needs as to what order statuses are important to their job.
    khm... dude... c'mon, don't take it out on me...
    As much as this is a great idea, I think it would just make the admin overcrowded and overwhelming with all these settings, and we're talking just about the dashboard widget settings...

    I'm more than happy to bring all of these ideas to life, but I'd really need some feedback from drbyte, lat9 or swguy to see if it's even being considered for core, and if so, how far to take it with all the good ideas that are coming up here.

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    Could you dumb this down for me, please? Keep in mind English is not my native language, I really don't know what you're saying here.
    Give me E for effort here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    Also, Maximum Display of Orders on Orders Page is set to 20 yet the page only shows 10 orders.
    The Orders Page uses MAX_DISPLAY_SEARCH_RESULTS_ORDERS
    The Home widget page uses $recentOrdersMaxRows in admin\includes\extra_datafiles\dist-site_specific_admin_overrides.php

    I think that keeping them separate allows for tighter configuration of the home page.
    I have experimented with removing a lot of white space on the home page and it is a vast improvement over the old page.
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