Hi Delia, it's a complete fresh install using 1.3.8 and I'm using my backed up sql file to populate the database. The only files I've changed are both configure.php files and then changed a few texts to change the "sales message goes here" etc. I haven't touched the template.

Delia quote "If you've not made any changes to the login template and are still using the default template, where did you put the new login template?"

Delia, when you say where did you put it, I didn't put it, I just left it where it was from the copy over of the 1.3.8 files.

thanks for the assistance

Steven