Thank you,
So, I do have a prefix (zen_) so I should use ZC Install SQL Patch facility.

I thought that that could be what was happening with admin\includes\boxes\* but I thought that you needed to have the following admin\includes\boxes\*.* to refer to all files in that folder. I was confused. I knew they did something ;-)

Given that we have minor fixes in the admin profiles in 1.3.8, if I had the time would it be at all useful to use WinMerge to make these minor changes or as you say "wouldn't worry too much about this".

Thanks again.