AJAX IMAGE Swapper support thread

**manage-it** · 11 Mar 2008, 03:24 PM

The image swapper installed succesfully, but the Image Swapper Manager does not show any products after choosing the category.
So I can select a category, but nothing happens.

What goes wrong?
Please help.
Bram

**rjspomer** · 11 Mar 2008, 09:58 PM

I have a big problem with these so called addon modules. The author should state right up front that this does not work with this or that module. In the case of theses .

IE7
Light Box
IH2
and who knows what else

I am removing this one. Oh and one more thing you want people to donate for your work come on there is a lot of people helping out here for just the thought of helping someone else. I wish I knew enough to help but all I can do is let others know the issues. And doner beware.

**dbltoe** · 11 Mar 2008, 11:30 PM

In deference to those who do the mods, we're all subject to the fallacies of the various browsers, the changes to PHP5, etc.

So much of how Zen cart operates is directly effected by forces outside the software. AND... I am continually amazed at the number of folks who will blithely add a mod to an online site.

We had tested AJAX ONLY after determining that 1.3.8a would only work with IH2 and Fual Slimbox under OUR operating parameters. Lightbox would not work under OUR setup.

At first, AJAX seemed to work fine on both firefox and IE7. We do extensive tests with firefox as it will give a more accurate representation of css and xhtml. When we tested AJAX with IE, we first used IE6. No problems were found so we took a cursory look with IE7 to make sure nothing wound up on top of itself. Thinking we had a solution, we then, and only then, incorporated into a working site.

Our fist indication of trouble was when the customer went to a friend's place and said "take a look at my new site." IE7 and the Image Swapper have combined to make our life miserable, once again. The fact that Zen is primarily PHP generating html, it falls under different rules when combining html code with JavaScript. PHP prefers JavaScript to be loaded outside the code. Firefox doesn't care and loads the images. Html validators don't like the <script> tag with out the style option. AND... Worst of all, IE7 has decided to resurrect the "I won't work if you try to run a script inside the <body> tag." Sometimes the browser will present the page but, hitting F5 will give some scary results. Sometimes IE7 simply says it is not able to load the page.

All this is said for two reasons.

First, a mod developer can't possibly be expected to test all possible environments for their mod.

Secondly, it's our responsibility to try to "break it" under a TEST environment.

If you do these things, there may be the occasional

but, you can't fault the developer for trying.

We are working on a solution for OUR situation. If we are successful, we will post a workaround.

**rjspomer** · 12 Mar 2008, 12:53 AM

Don't get me wrong I understand and don't expect all mods to work with every other mod or browser with out some issues, but when a developer is out there selling a service and a mod then he should make his potential doners aware that there are issues. And then go and make it known in the forum. In to many of these forums you have to go thru 100's of pages to find the issues. They should make it clear in their read me file.

I have learned the hard way that before adding mod that looks and sound good read thru ever page of the support forum first.

Thanks

**chuckienorton** · 16 Mar 2008, 02:33 AM

I just installed; One weird thing, is I now have 3 links under configuration to "Ajax Image Swapper!" The first two do nothing, and the third one brings me to correct page.

Can I fix this? Thanks.

**jaycode** · 16 Mar 2008, 08:18 AM

Sorry, last week I have been busy, but no worries, I will reply to your questions, one by one.

Especially to rjspomer, I can understand how frustated you were trying to get this module to work. If you wish to, and if you trust me enough, feel free to drop me a private message with access to your website admin and the problem you were having.

I'll be more active in this thread from now on since the problems with my visa has nearly finished.

**jaycode** · 16 Mar 2008, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by rjspomer

1.3.7.1 I removed all the ajax files and will reload.
Your demo shows a light box image is this part of ajax image swapper?

Nope, its part of this module, not even a lightbox

**jaycode** · 16 Mar 2008, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by manage-it

The image swapper installed succesfully, but the Image Swapper Manager does not show any products after choosing the category.
So I can select a category, but nothing happens.

What goes wrong?
Please help.
Bram

This question has been asked several times (and answered), you need to set up the attributes for your products.

If you are only looking to display several images for products without attributes, then I suggest you use slimbox instead (albeit it doesn't have admin area) - until I finished working with the update version of this module, at least.

**jaycode** · 16 Mar 2008, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by dbltoe

In deference to those who do the mods, we're all subject to the fallacies of the various browsers, the changes to PHP5, etc.

So much of how Zen cart operates is directly effected by forces outside the software. AND... I am continually amazed at the number of folks who will blithely add a mod to an online site.

We had tested AJAX ONLY after determining that 1.3.8a would only work with IH2 and Fual Slimbox under OUR operating parameters. Lightbox would not work under OUR setup.

At first, AJAX seemed to work fine on both firefox and IE7. We do extensive tests with firefox as it will give a more accurate representation of css and xhtml. When we tested AJAX with IE, we first used IE6. No problems were found so we took a cursory look with IE7 to make sure nothing wound up on top of itself. Thinking we had a solution, we then, and only then, incorporated into a working site.

Our fist indication of trouble was when the customer went to a friend's place and said "take a look at my new site." IE7 and the Image Swapper have combined to make our life miserable, once again. The fact that Zen is primarily PHP generating html, it falls under different rules when combining html code with JavaScript. PHP prefers JavaScript to be loaded outside the code. Firefox doesn't care and loads the images. Html validators don't like the <script> tag with out the style option. AND... Worst of all, IE7 has decided to resurrect the "I won't work if you try to run a script inside the <body> tag." Sometimes the browser will present the page but, hitting F5 will give some scary results. Sometimes IE7 simply says it is not able to load the page.

All this is said for two reasons.

First, a mod developer can't possibly be expected to test all possible environments for their mod.

Secondly, it's our responsibility to try to "break it" under a TEST environment.

If you do these things, there may be the occasional

but, you can't fault the developer for trying.

We are working on a solution for OUR situation. If we are successful, we will post a workaround.

Heaps thanks to make this clear, dbltoe. As an addition, I developed this module to help with my own client project, and since I thought it would help other zen users, I posted it up (well and frankly, at first I thought I could make some extra bucks with it :) - but that is no longer my aim).

So, this module might have slight (to miserably large) incompatibilities with other modules, other browsers, other php versions, or other mysql version out there, it's just not worth it to test it on everything, I hope you guys would understand that.

And on the other hand, it's definitely worth it to upgrade your modules, zen-carts, browsers, phps, and mysqls.

**jaycode** · 16 Mar 2008, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by rjspomer

Don't get me wrong I understand and don't expect all mods to work with every other mod or browser with out some issues, but when a developer is out there selling a service and a mod then he should make his potential doners aware that there are issues. And then go and make it known in the forum. In to many of these forums you have to go thru 100's of pages to find the issues. They should make it clear in their read me file.

I have learned the hard way that before adding mod that looks and sound good read thru ever page of the support forum first.

Thanks

Yes, and I am very sorry about that (oh the frustration

)

By the way, I am not selling any service for the time being, due to a working commitment, possibly until I get somebody with sufficient skill to help me.

I was aware of this fact, which was a reason I made this module not touching any of the core files, so you can just remove the files to uninstall it.

Good luck with your shop rjspomer.

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