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    Default Re: ozpost shipping module

    Rod, I have tested the shipping estimator with:

    Code:
            if ($this->tax_class >  0) $this->quotes['tax'] = zen_get_tax_rate($this->tax_class, $order->delivery['country']['id'], $order->delivery['zone_id']);
    $this->quotes['tax'] = 10 ; 
    return $this->quotes;   // return a single quote
    and

    Code:
        if ($this->tax_class >  0) $this->quotes['tax'] = zen_get_tax_rate($this->tax_class, $order->delivery['country']['id'], $order->delivery['zone_id']);
    $this->quotes['tax'] = 10 ; 
    $_SESSION['ozpostQuotes'] = $this->quotes  ; // save as session to avoid reprocessing when single method required
    ...but unfortunately, it makes no difference to the display. It's exactly the same as before - GST exclusive.

    I tried it in a number of browsers and on different machines in case of cache refresh issues. There are none.

    Sorry.

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    Default Re: ozpost shipping module

    Quote Originally Posted by tpeck View Post
    .It's exactly the same as before - GST exclusive.
    .
    Now that was an interesting enough result to really get my curiosity up, because the implication is that the original code is/was actually doing what it was supposed to be doing, namely, setting the tax rate at 10%,

    So, upon further investigation I have noticed that ALL of the prices shown in your store are GST exclusive - it isn't just the shipping.

    The final costs however are correct..

    My test product (your store)

    Student Pack A Shows a cost of $90.00 ex GST

    FastWay quote (to ivanhoe, VIC) $11.00 ex GST

    Then on the checkout page we see:

    ---------------
    Sub-Total :$90.00
    FastWay Couriers (FastWay Labels (RED)): $11.00
    GST: $10.10
    Total $111.10
    ----------------------

    Which is perfectly correct... There is $9,.00 GST on the product, $1.10 GST on the shipping, so total GST is $10.10, making the total cost $90+$11+$10.10 = $111.10

    I'll wager that if you set the store to show prices with tax this same order will be displayed as:

    Sub-Total :$99.00
    FastWay Couriers (FastWay Labels (RED)): $12.10
    GST: $10.10
    Total $111.10

    Note that in this instance, the GST amount shown isn't *added* to the total, which remains at $111.10 ($99.00+$12.10) - it is displayed merely as a reference to how much GST is included.

    As you should be aware, displaying your prices without GST isn't exaclty legal. (not that it bothers me any), but it does make sense that if you are showing the product prices exGST then the shipping prices will/should also be shown exGST, 'cos if one is taxable, then so is the other.

    Even if we did get the shipping to show GST inclusive, but the items exGST the checkout screen will be pretty confusing, showing like this:

    Sub-Total :$90.00 (ex GST)
    FastWay Couriers (FastWay Labels (RED)): $12.10 (inc GST)
    GST: +$9.00 for the product,
    Total $??????

    90+12.10+9 = $111.10 (assuming GST on item only)
    or will it be
    90+12.10 = 102.10+10.21 = $112.31 (which is the more technically correct) - And what of the GST amount actually shown? The customer will look at this invoice and think there is only the $9.00 GST component, when in reality there is $10.10 - If this is another GST registered company they will probably want to claim the entire $10.10 that they've paid, not just the $9.00 specified on your invoice.

    Anyway, this is the situation, and now that I/we know what is going on I can only conclude that the code itself is doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing - Namely, which is what you have 'told' it to do, namely, to display ALL prices exGST. The 'fix' therefore is easy.. set your cart to display prices GST inclusive, as the law dictates you should :-)

    Cheers
    Rod

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    Default Re: ozpost shipping module

    Quote Originally Posted by RodG View Post
    The 'fix' therefore is easy.. set your cart to display prices GST inclusive, as the law dictates you should :-)

    Cheers
    Rod
    Happy to report I am no longer an outlaw!

    You were right, of course - took a bit of digging to see why and what to change, but it works well now. Dunno why I didn't see it before.

    Thanks again for the great detective work!

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    Default Re: ozpost shipping module

    Hi Rod,

    Thanks for a great product. I have just paid for a six month subscription as OZPOST is worth every cent IMO. I have a few questions and I may have found one error (it may be Australia Post though).

    1. Are you able to supply the number of hits my site does to the shipping calculator in any given period. I wish to see how many people many check shipping and dont go on to purchase a product.

    2. Do you intend on including the 5kg express post bag.

    3. I had a customer from Cocos Islands 6799. When estimating shipping, it returns that the express post takes 4 days longer than normal post. I am sending from postcode 6210.My guess is its Australia Post but I thought it worth mentioning.


    Cheers Rick

    www.camelotcraft.com.au

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    Default Re: ozpost shipping module

    Quote Originally Posted by rick99 View Post
    1. Are you able to supply the number of hits my site does to the shipping calculator in any given period. I wish to see how many people many check shipping and dont go on to purchase a product.
    No, I don't have this data to display.

    Quote Originally Posted by rick99 View Post
    2. Do you intend on including the 5kg express post bag.
    This is already supported.. The Prepaid Express Satchel
    setting enables the 500gm, 3kg & 5kg.
    Only one will ever show at any given time though.

    Keep in mind that all of them are subject to both size and weight restrictions.

    The 3kg XL is listed seperately because not all AustPost outlets carry them.


    Quote Originally Posted by rick99 View Post
    3. I had a customer from Cocos Islands 6799. When estimating shipping, it returns that the express post takes 4 days longer than normal post. I am sending from postcode 6210.My guess is its Australia Post but I thought it worth mentioning.
    Your guess is spot on .... How bizarre... I didn't beleive it at first so I tested in the drc.edeliver server (AustraliaPost) and sure enough, same result.. Standard takes 3 days, express takes 8.

    Cheers
    Rod

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    Default Re: ozpost shipping module

    Thanks for the quick responce.

    I finally got the 5kg bag to work, it did have to do with weights (and not dimensions which I spent an hour playing with ).

    I have loaded the latest version from your site but there is an icon file missing, ozpost_ppse5k.jpg.

    Also, I wish to discuss with you an enhancement which although handy may only be of use to myself. Should I post that info here or should I discuss with you off the board.

    Cheers

    Rick

    www.camelotcraft.com.au

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    Default Re: ozpost shipping module

    Quote Originally Posted by rick99 View Post
    I have loaded the latest version from your site but there is an icon file missing, ozpost_ppse5k.jpg.
    Yeah... I know :-(

    Quote Originally Posted by rick99 View Post
    Also, I wish to discuss with you an enhancement which although handy may only be of use to myself. Should I post that info here or should I discuss with you off the board.
    Post it here, unless you have a very good reason not to.

    Cheers
    Rod

 

 

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