WorldPay Module version 2.0 - Support thread

Righto then - module installed and my Zen Cart seesm to be talking to the Worldpay server!
However this is not the result I was expecting. I assumed that the customer would enter card details into an https page on my site and that the details would be passed transparently to Worldpay - instead the customer is taken to the ugly ol' Worldpay pages to make the transaction. Is this the way its supposed to work?
Ta

Yep - that's the way WorldPay does it...but you can edit their pages although if I recall correctly, it's a bit of a tedious process.

Ixnay:

Righto then - module installed and my Zen Cart seesm to be talking to the Worldpay server!
However this is not the result I was expecting. I assumed that the customer would enter card details into an https page on my site and that the details would be passed transparently to Worldpay - instead the customer is taken to the ugly ol' Worldpay pages to make the transaction. Is this the way its supposed to work?
Ta

Yes and this is the manual,

http://www.worldpay.com/support/kb/mergedProjects/htmlredirect/rhtml5202.html

note the big red writing and skull that says "you cannot collect details on your site".

If that is what you want to do, then WorldPay is not the gateway for for you, try Protx or possibly one of the advacned paypal options.

Philip.

Okay, thanks very much. I thought maybe I was being a bit thick. Hadn't read the manual though I must admit. It seems to me that WorldPay is not that great a deal for anyone. They charge the clients a big chunk, and cannot fully integrate into the site. I would prefer to use Secpay but there is no payments module for that.
But kudos to you for getting this all happening, and I really appreciate your swift help.
Cheers

Ixnay:

Okay, thanks very much. I thought maybe I was being a bit thick. Hadn't read the manual though I must admit. It seems to me that WorldPay is not that great a deal for anyone. They charge the clients a big chunk, and cannot fully integrate into the site. I would prefer to use Secpay but there is no payments module for that.
But kudos to you for getting this all happening, and I really appreciate your swift help.
Cheers

Give me the details on Secpay and I'll see what I can do !

http://www.paypoint.net/support/payment-gateway-support/guides/

Have at it! They seem to be called Paypoint now but are essentially the same thing. I have been using them for years in conjunction with Mals Cart. The nice thing about this lot is that they charge about half of what the other gateways do, plus they get the money into the clients account within 28 hours. And they answer the phone. Bonus!
Oh, and if you sign up with them as a reseller you get a little percentage on every transaction they make with clients you have signed up.
Its almost like money for nothing.
I have had a Russian programmer build an interface for me when I once (ONCE) used the LiteCommerce program. Its certainly doable and would make a great add on for Zen Cart.
Cheers
j

Ixnay:

http://www.paypoint.net/support/payment-gateway-support/guides/

Have at it! They seem to be called Paypoint now but are essentially the same thing. I have been using them for years in conjunction with Mals Cart. The nice thing about this lot is that they charge about half of what the other gateways do, plus they get the money into the clients account within 28 hours. And they answer the phone. Bonus!
Oh, and if you sign up with them as a reseller you get a little percentage on every transaction they make with clients you have signed up.
Its almost like money for nothing.
I have had a Russian programmer build an interface for me when I once (ONCE) used the LiteCommerce program. Its certainly doable and would make a great add on for Zen Cart.
Cheers
j

I'll see what I can schedule in, I'm just about to release some security software for ZC and am in the final stages of testing some of the software (as well a maintaining this).

BUT WorldPay is not that bad, and I'll tell you why. When I first found the flaw in this module, someone pointed out that I have a particularly criminal mind. Now if I were to hack Zencart with WorldPay, then all I would be left with, would be a load of addresses and email details (still worth something), but let's say that I hacked a server that sent Credit Card details away. Not stored them in anyway, just sends them through to protx or paypoint.

What I would do is I would change the URL of the form to send the information to a server that I controlled and then I forward the exact same information onto PayPoint. Nothing would look out of the ordinary, you as a shop keeper would still get all of your money as paypoint would send it back, your customers would get their goods, but in the middle, I would happily be collecting credit card details with very little chance of discovery and the system would probably only stop when you upgraded and overwrote the file I'd altered.

Now with worldpay, you can't do this, you could send the user to a fake worldpay website to reap their details, but it's not going to last long as the shop owner is going to receive complaints pretty quickly, and it's not going to be able to send you back to the website to the correct places, like checkout success, maybe it would last a week rather than six months.

Just my 2c, I don't use worldpay I just maintain the module, although I am working on software that would stop the first scenario from happening, I just didn't realise that point, when I was musing over the pros and cons.

Philip.

Ixnay:

Okay, thanks very much. I thought maybe I was being a bit thick. Hadn't read the manual though I must admit. It seems to me that WorldPay is not that great a deal for anyone. They charge the clients a big chunk, and cannot fully integrate into the site. I would prefer to use Secpay but there is no payments module for that.
But kudos to you for getting this all happening, and I really appreciate your swift help.
Cheers

did you check out Stephen's module that he did for Secpay clients back in October 2006

http://www.zen-cart.com/
index.php?main_page=product_contrib_info&products_id=328

Hi Philip, do you think the time has come for Zen Cart to now list your Worldpay ver 2.04 in the Free Software Add Ons page

AND hopefully the Zen Cart webmaster will now list Worldpay (in conjunction with your ver 2 module ) on the Recommeded Services page

zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=infopages&pages_id=39

Also, I think now is the time to alert Worldpay to the marvelous work you have done in the last few months to get this far

I notice Zen Cart is not listed on the Storebuilder Directory
worldpay.com/storebuilders/index.php?c=UK

It does not cost anything for Zen Cart to do this

worldpay.com/storebuilders/content.php?page=why&c=UK

But the "Merchant Benefits" are clear to see, and it would give potential users of Zen Cart more confidence to be sure !

just noticed it is in the Free Software Add Ons list

zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=contrib_search_result&keyword=worldpay

:clap:

Just wanted to say thanks to Phillip for his work on the worldpay module. There is another point to this that I dont think many have realised which is this new module is compatible with PHP5 which I believe the old worldpay module wasnt. Considering the next release of Zen Cart will be based on PHP5 it's a godsend to me and my business that Phil has come along. ( All due respect to Duncan - the original author )

I have just uninstalled the old module and put the new one on in less than 10 minutes. Looking good so far in that my own card functioned perfectly. One word of caution to those who had previously changed their "tpl_wp_cc_accept.php" is that it is overwritten by the new module. If you have read the instructions though and backed up everything it's a simple copy and paste from your backup to retrieve it or better still leave it off altogether if you are upgrading.

As I said this looks to be working straight away - I await the first warning etc to see how this handles but I'm confident it will do as advertised. Once it does I will be making a donation to the paypal account [email protected] and I urge all those who have benefited from this fantastic piece of work to do so too.

Top Man Phillip :bigups:

Thank you for the comments, and for the extra information about tpl_wp_cc_accept.php I shall move that into an "optional" folder and modify the instructions in the next release.

With regards to the transition from php 4 to 5, although this module is fully compatible, a good way to ensure compatibility at the (temporary) cost of speed, is to put

register_long_arrays = On

in either the main php.ini file or there are two other options if your hosting does not allow you access to php.ini

• if running php as an apache module (more notes below)

add the line ```
php_value register_long_arrays On

- If running php as a CGI module *(more notes below)*

create a php.ini file in your main website root and in your admin folder (php as CGI reads php.ini from the working folder not the webroot)  with

register_long_arrays = On

inside it and add the following code to .htaccess

<files *.ini>
order allow,deny
deny from all
</files>

**The notes on modules and CGI**

if you do not know if you are running php as a module or as a cgi, then create a page with

in it and visit it through your web browser on your server, it should tell you if it is running as an apache module or a cgi.

Thank you
Philip.

A BIG THANK YOU TO PHILIP
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::
WHO SORTED OUT MY PROBLEMS
OK NOW WORLD PAY IS SORTED PHIL
LETS SORT OUT MY LIFE:laugh:

And I'd like to thank you for the donation...
Thanks...
Philip...
I'll get my coat now.

Hi quick Question but for some reason the module doset apear to be showing mastero's even those these are set on i the accepted credi cards in admin any ideas?

Do you mean, "when the person has left the shop and gone to worldpay's site" or "the sidebox doesn't show" ? Because I'd only be dealing with the sidebox things on this side of worldpay.

Thank you
Philip.

Hi, philip_clarke

would it be possible for you to add surcharge on this mod? say customers wish to use credit card and want to use worldpay, as soon as the customers select the either visa card or master card, the surcharge will be showed seperate (e.g £0.95 at 2.50%) and also added to the total. Also, there should be place in admin where administartor can add surcharge in percentage term, such as, 3.55% for visa card, 2.50% for master card. Becuase we all know the worldpay is very expensive and this surcharge option will be useful.

thank you very much!

That is a seriously great suggestion.

I won't be able to split it by card unfortunately as worldpay doesn't take that information from the module, but I see no reason why we can't change the text dynamically on the module e.g. Pay by WorldPay (2.5%) surcharge and then the percentage would change dependent on the amount fixed in admin by the shopw owner. It's not going to be a quick fix though, because I'll have to integrate it into the payment total side of things (the bit that give quantity discounts and tots up taxes) so I'll have to do a little rooting around to work out the best way to "fix" it. But yes, that is a very good idea.

Philip.

There is a credit card surcharge module here:

http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=product_contrib_info&products_id=785

What I'll do is check it's compatibility and if necessary release a version that will plugin to the module, or make it "selectable" for worldpay only. Gives me something to do on the cold winter evenings.

Philip.

Right, I've had an in depth look at the credit card surcharge module and I'll have to do an "optional extra" module based on it for worldpay, there's a couple of not so good things about that module, for one thing it's broken with gift voucher's and the author seems to be out of contact (though the fix is posted on the forums wish I'd searched first instead of spent 30 minutes debugging it), anyway what I do not agree with, is that there is no "prior warning" for the extra surcharge, it just pops up if you specify a module to add it to, and it's not really at one with the shop, in the blurb it advertises itself as "discouraging people from paying by certain ways" or something similar and I'd be furious if on the last checkout without any warning, I got nailed for an extra 3%.

Whatever I do will be done by this time next week, I've got to decide whether to bring it into worldpay, or to re-write it to create a more generic module so that one can pick and choose. There is a change I want to make to worldpay anyway, that might go very well with a newer version of a surcharge module.

Philip.