Ceon URI Mapping (SEO)

conor:

Hi,

1)I'm not quite sure what you mean.. are you saying that you have URIs for your "old" site which point to products on your new site but as the product IDs are new/different the "expected" page isn't being displayed?

I'm not sure what you are saying has occurred! Ceon URI Mapping creates "historical" URIs when URIs change so all old URIs are redirected to the "current" URI.. however this functionality requires that products still have the same product IDs, categories still have the same category ID etc.

Hope that helps!

All the best..

Conor
ceon

1. Exactly, it points to a product id that has changed to another id after catalog reload. example www.example.com/tylenol-500-p1256.html is now www.example.com/tylenol-500-p1562.htm which gets customers to product not found.

Wondering if ceon seo with automatically created url's will create for example www.example.com/tylenol-500 and that will stay that way because it takes creates url from product name - and upon same issue will not cause product not found is that correct ceon?

Also wanted to ask how does the seo work on 12,000 products autogenerated or each has to be approved first?

Ceon Thank you for your help and everything you do :clap:

Hi Mike,

Mike_Dean:

Perhaps it's difficult to understand my problem, hence the difficulty in finding a solution.

No, I understand perfectly.. it's still the same problem and the solution is still the same.

Mike_Dean:

The module has installed correctly, else I would not be able to see the Config option in admin correct ??

The problem is nothing to do with the module, it is that your site isn't yet fully capable of using static URIs as your site is not using full, absolute URIs for all of its images etc.

Mike_Dean:

I have then checked and re-checked my css style sheet

Okay, good, then if you haven't missed anything then it must not be the problem.

Mike_Dean:

If I then go to the category on the test site, I can see all the images correctly in the list view, but when I select actual the product that I have mapped, The page loads, but the images are not loaded..

Then, quite simply, something being used to generate the output on the product page is not using absolute URIs. You should check all the template code being used to build that page.

Mike_Dean:

Please note that I am using Tabbd Product Pro module and also using different folders for small, medium and large images..

Again the image paths are irrelevant.. when you are attempting to fix problems on computers you should always ignore extraneous data and concentrate on the core facts..

The core fact in your case is that the paths to the images - no matter what these paths are, whether they are medium, large or whatever - need to be absolute.

Mike_Dean:

Apart from the CSS file, what other files call for images that I need to check ???

I cannot locate any other files, be they css or php that call for the images.

You've just made a mistake then and missed out on some files - they may not be calling for the images directly themselves.

It sounds to me like the culprit is most likely to be this Tabbed Products Pro, it could possibly be building the paths in a function which is unaware of the need to use absolute rather than relative paths, or it may be using its own template files for the product info page which again are not building absolute paths but relative ones.

You should check each and every file that is used to build the HTML output for the product info page. You will find at least one which is building the paths incorrectly.

Mike_Dean:

If I could ask 5 more minutes of your time to offer support it would be appreciated..

There you go! :)

All the best..

Conor
ceon

Hi,

dajiaoyazi:

Many of the same name Products,I want to find them, then manually modify name.

If the products have the same name but are in different categories then it doesn't matter as the URIs will be different as the category parts proceeding them are different.

If you have products in the same category with the same name you should go and rename the products.. it's silly to have products with the same name anyway. If they have the same name they are the same product. If not, then you've identified how to change the name appropriately.

There's no way to search for products which have the same name, you could use software like PHPMyAdmin though to list all the URIs in the ceon_uri_mappings table alphabetically and then browse the list to see if you can see URIs which are the same.. then note the associated_db_id which will be the product_id, go into the admin and change the product name(s) for the product ID(s) that share a URI with another product.

Hope that helps!

All the best..

Conor
ceon

Hi,

rxalex:

1. Exactly, it points to a product id that has changed to another id after catalog reload. example www.example.com/tylenol-500-p1256.html is now www.example.com/tylenol-500-p1562.htm which gets customers to product not found.

Yes, the ID in the URI is clearly different so I can see how that would happen.

rxalex:

Wondering if ceon seo with automatically created url's will create for example www.example.com/tylenol-500 and that will stay that way because it takes creates url from product name - and upon same issue will not cause product not found is that correct ceon?

That's right, the product ID is associated with the URI but is not part of the URI. However if the product ID changes then it will no longer be associated with the same URI unless the ID in the ceon_uri_mapping table is updated to use the new product ID. There's just no way around that!

rxalex:

Also wanted to ask how does the seo work on 12,000 products autogenerated or each has to be approved first?

Unfortunately the software isn't designed for existing (large) sites but new sites and small sites as the URIs are autogenerated as the products/categories are added.

rxalex:

Ceon Thank you for your help and everything you do :clap:

Thanks for the nice comments, they're greatly appreciated!

All the best..

Conor
ceon

Hi,

rectangle:

v1.3.9d is out. I suppose we need a new version of this again...

Yes, some of the core files this module modifies have changed once more... again for bugfixes which would have been prevented if Zen Cart's developers employed a better quality control system for the Zen Cart 1.3.9 series! :(

The changes are tiny but a new version will be required. I'll get a new version released as soon as I can.

All the best..

Conor
ceon

conor:

It sounds to me like the culprit is most likely to be this Tabbed Products Pro, it could possibly be building the paths in a function which is unaware of the need to use absolute rather than relative paths, or it may be using its own template files for the product info page which again are not building absolute paths but relative ones.
Conor I used Tabbed Products Pro with your module and have not had any issues.. That said if Mike is using any version other than v 1.05, then TPP could be an issue as the versions after released 1.05 included other software bundled in which in the past has caused issues for uses of TPP.. My suggestion on the small possibility that TPP is the culprit is for Mike to roll back to v 1.05 of TPP..

I wonder though if Mike isn't using a Template Monster (or affiliate) template. These templates are known to be problematic..

Alreet Conor... how you doing?

i need some advice...

at the moment my store is running 139c and URI 3.4.3.

i was just going to upgrade to your latest version then 139d arrived.

The plan is to upgrade to 139d by just adding the 139d modified files then wait for your updated URI mod for 139d. Is this ok or will it feck up my site... (URI mods turned off btw until the joy of updating is done)

im in no hurry, i just thought id ask and plan ahead.

another weekend.. hope it's a sunny one for us!
I can think of better things to do than this updating sh1te, I bet you can too!

DivaVocals:

Conor I used Tabbed Products Pro with your module and have not had any issues.. That said if Mike is using any version other than v 1.05, then TPP could be an issue as the versions after released 1.05 included other software bundled in which in the past has caused issues for uses of TPP.. My suggestion on the small possibility that TPP is the culprit is for Mike to roll back to v 1.05 of TPP..

I wonder though if Mike isn't using a Template Monster (or affiliate) template. These templates are known to be problematic..

Hi Diva,

Thanks,

I have TPP 1.06 installed, I have no problems rolling it back to 1.05 if indeed that may be the problem.. I'm willing to try anything.

And in regards to using Template Monster.. noooooo waaaayyyy..

Its a clean template (Blue version of Lite Red, by 12leaves.com) offered up in the Downloads Section.. )

Thanks,
Mike

conor:

Hi Mike,

No, I understand perfectly.. it's still the same problem and the solution is still the same.

The problem is nothing to do with the module, it is that your site isn't yet fully capable of using static URIs as your site is not using full, absolute URIs for all of its images etc.

Sorry if you miss-interpreted my comments, I was not for one minute suggesting the Module was at fault. In fact I'm very anxious to get it working, as I think it's a great mod..

Okay, good, then if you haven't missed anything then it must not be the problem.

Then, quite simply, something being used to generate the output on the product page is not using absolute URIs. You should check all the template code being used to build that page.

I will go back and troll over and have another look...:wink:

Again the image paths are irrelevant.. when you are attempting to fix problems on computers you should always ignore extraneous data and concentrate on the core facts..

The core fact in your case is that the paths to the images - no matter what these paths are, whether they are medium, large or whatever - need to be absolute.

This, as you rightly suggest is most likely the issue, it's just I can't locate the image paths themselves... I need a bigger spade so I can dig deeper..! :yes:

You've just made a mistake then and missed out on some files - they may not be calling for the images directly themselves.

It sounds to me like the culprit is most likely to be this Tabbed Products Pro, it could possibly be building the paths in a function which is unaware of the need to use absolute rather than relative paths, or it may be using its own template files for the product info page which again are not building absolute paths but relative ones.

You should check each and every file that is used to build the HTML output for the product info page. You will find at least one which is building the paths incorrectly.

There you go! :)

All the best..

Conor
ceon

I'll also, as Ms Vocals suggested, look at rolling TPP back to 1.05 and see if that has any impact...

Thank you Conor..

I really do appreciate your support.. :wink:

Where can download to this URI Mappings Manager.

dajiaoyazi:

Where can download to this URI Mappings Manager.

The URI Mappings Manager is a payable solution..

The URI Mappings SEO is a free solution

http://dev.ceon.net/web/zen-cart

DivaVocals:

Conor I used Tabbed Products Pro with your module and have not had any issues.. That said if Mike is using any version other than v 1.05, then TPP could be an issue as the versions after released 1.05 included other software bundled in which in the past has caused issues for uses of TPP.. My suggestion on the small possibility that TPP is the culprit is for Mike to roll back to v 1.05 of TPP..
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Looks like you were on the ball Diva... I removed TPP completely and voila..... The URI mapping works perfectly..

Thank-you for the suggestion..

Thanks Conor for the great add-on.

Now the (not so) glorious task of editing all the products so the new URI's show..

Mike

DivaVocals:

If you have an existing store, you will have to generate the URLs for each product when you first implement Ceon URI.. That's the bad news..** BUT** if you are comfortable working directly in your database, you can upload all of your initial product URIs directly into the database.. (This is what I have done for two existing sites with large numbers of products) AND you can upload the URLS your product are currently using/generating using SSU so that you don't lose any SEO momentum.. After the initial URI population, if you have the settings configured to use the auto-generation of Ceon URI, then your URIs will be generated as you crate new products/categories...

Hi Diva,

Would you be able to provide a bit more info/instructions as to how this is achieved ? I have over 900 items on my database.. so the thought of editing 1 by 1 does not enthuse me.! :yuck::yuck:

Thanks,
Mike

Mike_Dean:

Hi Diva,

Would you be able to provide a bit more info/instructions as to how this is achieved ? I have over 900 items on my database.. so the thought of editing 1 by 1 does not enthuse me.! :yuck::yuck:

Thanks,
MikeI don't want to hi-jack Conor's support thread with this so I'll try to keep it very brief..:smile:

Basically I created an Excel spreadsheet and populated it with the URI data.. To create the URIs in my spreadsheet I used the concatenate function in Excel. With it, and the appropriate category columns in my spreadsheet, I was able to create a formula to calculate the URI's based on the auto-generate settings I was going to be using in the Ceon URI module.. Then it was a matter of using the copy down feature to copy the formula. and uploaded it to the database.

You could do the same thing to recreate the URLs that SSU generates for you currently, and upload those URIs to the database. This way you would be able to keep the URLs you currently have been using..

conor:

Hi,

Move your Zen Cart installation into the root of your site so you don't have to use "automotiveshop" - simple!

You can then do a search and replace on a database dump to remove the "automotiveshop**"** from currently seo generated URIs.

I think stronger preference is given but I seriously doubt it would have much effect on your rankings.

All the best..

Conor
ceon

I agree completely prob no change at all in serps

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157117
image handler2 SEO optimisation

I AM Modified for image handler2 .
Ceon URI Mapping (SEO) Unable to run.
ultimate SEO URL normal.

Can you help me? I want to use Ceon URI Mapping .

dajiaoyazi:

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157117
image handler2 SEO optimisation

I AM Modified for image handler2 .
Ceon URI Mapping (SEO) Unable to run.
ultimate SEO URL normal.

Can you help me? I want to use Ceon URI Mapping .If you have both Ultimate SEO and Ceon URI installed one or the other of these modules will not function.. You cannot run both together..

DivaVocals:

If you have both Ultimate SEO and Ceon URI installed one or the other of these modules will not function.. You cannot run both together..

I test is only used Ceon URI. Can't run.

Im running Image Handler 2 and CEON URI together just fine. They dont interfere with each other at all afaik.

dajiaoyazi:

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157117
image handler2 SEO optimisation

I AM Modified for image handler2 .
Ceon URI Mapping (SEO) Unable to run.
ultimate SEO URL normal.

Can you help me? I want to use Ceon URI Mapping .

dajiaoyazi:

I test is only used Ceon URI. Can't run.

The fact that you have Ultimate SEO installed **& **CEON installed will probably be causing the problems whereby Ceon URI's cant run.

I'd suggest removing Ultimate SEO completely, and then try CEON..