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1 Jun 2010, 4:34 PM
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Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

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Lead_Not_Follow:

I am getting an error message when customers are trying to use American Express cards.

I don't see how that's possible... if they are failing then the cards seem to be failing the standard LUHN check? Are you sure the customers aren't entering the wrong number?

American Express cards work fine here.. I've had no problem with them and all our payment software has been using the same LUHN check since 2006!

Sorry I can't be more help than that!

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2 Jun 2010, 4:29 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Lead_Not_Follow:

I am getting an error message when customers are trying to use American Express cards.

The card number entered is invalid. Please check the number and try again, try another card or contact us for further assistance.

This has happened with all American Express cards to the best of my knowledge.

I run running the following;

Ceon Module Version Information
File Version: 2.2.2
Database Version: 2.2.2

Zen Cart 1.3.9b
Database Patch Level: 1.3.9b
v1.3.9b [2010-05-15 15:38:44] (Fresh Installation)

Please advise...

THANKS!

American Express works fine on my site. Any chance you set the minimum values credit card number to 16 in the admin page. or any of the others too low. Amex only has 15 digits. Also, did you enable American Express in CEON and ZenCart?

9 Jun 2010, 9:16 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Expiry Date not being forwarded to owner and my client needs the date to process the transaction. Have I missed something in a set-up?

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9 Jun 2010, 10:04 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

The expiration date (Credit Card Expires) is below the Credit Card Number on the Order form in the Admin panel...

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9 Jun 2010, 11:19 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

haredo:

The expiration date (Credit Card Expires) is below the Credit Card Number on the Order form in the Admin panel...

Is there any way that it could be included on the 1st email order that the owner receives? Owner does not wish to access admin panel just for that info.

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10 Jun 2010, 1:30 AM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Hi Veronika,

I thought you need to login into the ADMIN to get the remaining Credit card Digits anyway!!
Or do they get ALL the Credit Card digits sent to them by email?

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10 Jun 2010, 9:22 AM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Hi,

Veronika7747:

Is there any way that it could be included on the 1st email order that the owner receives?

That could be done with custom coding. It's not recommended though as if any hacker is watching the owner's e-mails they'll get the customer's card details and your client will be sued for possibly $100,000s.

I for one won't code this for them/you.

Veronika7747:

Owner does not wish to access admin panel just for that info.

That's a very lazy approach to the security of their customers' card details. Not good business practice!

My advice is that if your client wants to do the minimum amount possible, they should pay for an online payment gateway service so that the payments are automated and they don't have to type in details manually.

If they don't want to pay for that they should accept the consequences of their decision and be prepared to put more effort into their business for the sake of their customers' financial safety.

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10 Jun 2010, 9:24 AM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Hi,

rlexyd:

I thought you need to login into the ADMIN to get the remaining Credit card Digits anyway!!
Or do they get ALL the Credit Card digits sent to them by email?

You do have to do that. It would be simple to send all the digits though and I'm guessing Veronika may have stupidly made that change to the code.

NO-ONE should make that change. Customer's security is important and this module is insecure enough as it is!

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10 Jun 2010, 1:46 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

conor:

Hi,

You do have to do that. It would be simple to send all the digits though and I'm guessing Veronika may have stupidly made that change to the code.

NO-ONE should make that change. Customer's security is important and this module is insecure enough as it is!

All the best..

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Oh, don't worry, I do not make any changes to anyone's code. My original question was to get the expiry date on the email, that's all.

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10 Jun 2010, 2:03 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Hi Veronika,

Veronika7747:

Oh, don't worry, I do not make any changes to anyone's code. My original question was to get the expiry date on the email, that's all.

Okay, I'm slightly confused as to why the client wants the expiry date then as they'd have to log into the admin anyway to get the other card digits?! Strange!

What I said still stands though.. this person should pay for a payment gateway service or spend the time logging into the admin.

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10 Jun 2010, 7:54 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

I am using Ceon 2.0.0 with Zen Cart 1.3.9d.

According to https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=67 "NOTE: You should never collect CVV data if you are manually processing credit card orders, as having that information is a violation of terms of service with credit card companies."

However, the Ceon module does collect CVV data and there doesn't appear to be any option to turn this off.

10 Jun 2010, 8:09 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Hi,

nickgreaves:

You should never collect CVV data if you are manually processing credit card orders, as having that information is a violation of terms of service with credit card companies.

Even collecting the card number for manual processing is in violation of the terms and conditions of most card processors which is why we don't recommend using this module but instead using a professional payment gateway (something I've said plenty of times here).

nickgreaves:

However, the Ceon module does collect CVV data and there doesn't appear to be any option to turn this off.

The latest version does have that functionality. Search this thread for more information.

I've a slight update to release and if it is fine this latest version will be uploaded to the downloads area within the next week or so.

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10 Jun 2010, 8:51 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Thanks. Have now successfully installed v2.2.2.

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15 Jun 2010, 4:33 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

In the download, 2.2.2, there are three sub folders within the docs folder: css, images, and javascript.

Am I supposed to copy those files as part of the install?

I see snippets of code to add to .css in the installation instructions, but no ref to these extra files.

Thanks.

15 Jun 2010, 5:19 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

The _docs folder contains information and advertising. The css files in the folder or used to present the html code in the _docs folder.
It will not break anything if you upload the _docs folder, but I would not. Things such as LICENSE and README might be renamed to something like ceon_cc_LICENSE and ceon_cc_README in order to not overwrite an existing file and make the information easier to find later.

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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Hi,

soxophoneplayer:

In the download, 2.2.2, there are three sub folders within the docs folder: css, images, and javascript.

Those are part of the documentation for the software!

You **only **need to upload the files in the "files" folder.

Things such as LICENSE and README might be renamed to something like ceon_cc_LICENSE and ceon_cc_README in order to not overwrite an existing file and make the information easier to find later.

There's no need to upload anything except the contents of the files folder, all the other files in the distribution are for informational purposes or the initial setup only.

Hope that helps!

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15 Jun 2010, 7:00 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

While files is the only item necessary, it's a good practice to load readme's even if ONLY to help you remember what mods you have installed.

It will help you, anyone who helps you with your site, and those on the forum when they ask, "What mods are installed?"

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15 Jun 2010, 7:08 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Hi,

dbltoe:

While files is the only item necessary, it's a good practice to load readme's even if ONLY to help you remember what mods you have installed.

It will help you, anyone who helps you with your site, and those on the forum when they ask, "What mods are installed?"

It would definitely be handy if Zen Cart had a registration system to keep a record of all installed modules.. it's not practical the way the software's currently built (that's oscommerce's fault though), maybe 2.0.0 will work slightly differently in that respect.

If you want to be sure of remembering what modules are installed, I think a better policy would be to create a file on your site, "Installed Modules.txt", and keep that up to date.

But then I'm a programmer so I like things to be all ordered and organised like that.. must get a life... :)

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15 Jun 2010, 7:09 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

dbltoe:

While files is the only item necessary, it's a good practice to load readme's even if ONLY to help you remember what mods you have installed.

It will help you, anyone who helps you with your site, and those on the forum when they ask, "What mods are installed?"I have the opposite view. Putting documentation on your site where it is browsable is very helpful to hackers trying to piece together information about your site.

Certainly you should keep the documentation and information about all the add-on mods you have installed, especially their versions. But keep it somewhere where it's only available and useful to people with a legitimate interest.

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15 Jun 2010, 7:14 PM
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Re: Ceon Manual Card Payment Module v2.0.0!

Hi,

conor:

But then I'm a programmer so I like things to be all ordered and organised like that.. must get a life... :)

Oh, sorry, didn't realise you're a programmer too.. you know what I mean I guess. :)

All the best...

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