Mary AKA DarkAngel,
I don't usually continue a thread that has deteriorated into little more than a slanging match, but this time I'm going to make an exception.
DarkAngel:
first off I am thankful for help...however yes, when I am told I did not do what was instructed when I had already stated it had been done---and done before the advice is when I get defensive.
How about getting your facts right. I NEVER said that you DIDN'T do what I instructed you to do, I did however (correctly) state that you did the one thing I said you should NOT do.
DarkAngel:
I have never told anyone that they did not do what was instructed,
Neither have I (well, not without being able to prove it). This was not the case here though... I told you to NOT run the SQL uninstall scripts. There is RARELY EVER a need to do that, and it will ALWAYS cause more problems than it solves .... so what did you do? You ran the uninstall script AGAINST my advise. Not once, but twice.
DarkAngel:
that is rude to assume that becasue it did nort work that they did not follow the instructions.
I assumed nothing. I told you at least twice to NOT run the uninstall script, yet by your own admission you ran it anyway.
DarkAngel:
YES, by all means give advice, reword it if necessary to help the enduser understand what you are telling them
Tell me oh wise one, how could I have reworded the following sentence that would have made it any clearer for you?
"Firstly, DON'T attempt to delete any database tables or records. THERE IS RARELY EVER A REASON that this needs to be done"
DarkAngel:
(just like standing right in front of them sometimes the person does not understand what you think they do)...but don't assume they did not follow the instructions.
Again, I assumed nothing. I very clearly stated "DON'T attempt to delete any database tables or records" and you responded with "but just in case I will re run the uninstaller"
<huge sigh>
DarkAngel:
It comes from helping to write faq manuals at the hospital I worked at...speak in words as clearly as possible so even a child may understand it...to help the enduser as much as possible.
Again, I request that you explain how "DON'T attempt to delete any database tables or records" can be worded in such a way so that people such as yourself won't misinterpret to mean "yes, go ahead and run the uninstaller, and if that doesn't work, run it again" ?
THAT is the issue we are dealing with here. Nothing is/was assumed.
Incidently, As well as my (many) computer skills (and certifications) , I am also a certified Trainer & Assessor, which I am sure will trump your limited experience at helping to write faq manuals for a hospital.
DarkAngel:
I am no expert
Well, I am, and this is where many people have an issue with me - I have great confidence in most of my postings and suggestions, so much so that it is often confused with arrogance. No biggy, I can live with that. :-)
Occasionally I'll respond to a request for help without being 100% sure of my facts, and in these cases I let it be known that I'm taking little more than educated guesses (else I'd end up looking like a fool).
DarkAngel:
and neither a novice, intermediate user but when told things in a certain way I get defensive and his method of "talk" in the post just hit the right nerve so yes he was dismissed.
To your detriment... you not only had to reinstall the database (and reconfigure), but because you refuse to heed my sage advise you will almost certainly make the same mistake again at some time in the future.
Perhaps after you have made the same mistake 2 or 3 times (as I have done) you will finally come to appreciate the wisdom of my words, but until then I just know that you will consider me an arrogant SOB.
Unfortunately experience tells me that there is nothing that I can do or say that will change this prediction.
DarkAngel:
I need help at times, just like everyone that comes here does when asking for help. I have been fortunate to have others help and not accused (that is what it appeared like) of not doing what was told.
But you didn't do what you was told - you did the very thing you was told you should NOT do.
DarkAngel:
So forgive this old woman for spanking you young'ns when she gets accused of things. I would do it in real life too.
What a joke, you falsely accuse me of making assumptions, and then proceed to do the same thing yourself.
BTW, thank you for this, it has been MANY years since anyone has called me a young'n.
For the record I'm 54.
DarkAngel:
Now if you should both decide never to help me ---for I am sure I will return with questions about both my own and my clients stores then so be it.
What a petty comment to make. You may be immature enough to refuse to continue to help someone in spite of their false accusations, but I'm always willing to give people a second, and even 3rd chance before considering them a lost cause.
DarkAngel:
Nothing personal just did not like the "attitude" I perceived as getting...then returned in fashion.
Sorry deary, I know at your age (whatever that may be) the old brain cells don't work as well as they should, but there is no way that I will ever pander to your bullshot (or anyone elses for that matter). I consider myself too old to play such juvenile games. The basic facts are all that I am ever interested in dealing with - Anything else, such as your unfounded allegations simply makes me respond without pulling any punches, and if you don't like my 'attitude' that is your problem, not mine.
Perhaps you should spend a little less time in your fantasy land and a bit more time in the real world???
Rgds
Rod
ps. If you are offended by any of my comments please understand that offense can only be taken, never given.
pss. Dr.Byte ..... ok, no need to say anything. As far as I'm concerned this thread is now closed, and as DarkAngel stated earlier "If one does not inject a bit of humor then one will go mad". This is my idea of humor/fun :smile: