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24 Feb 2010, 5:51 AM
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General HELP!!!!!

I have a new installation of Zen Cart. I am starting from scratch and I am NOT FEELING THE ZEN. I need help with the basics. I have UltraEdit installed on my computer and I am trying to make simple modifications to the front page of my website. I have attempted to connect with my web-server and I cannot seem to find my admin files to edit. It is my understanding that I have to make edits through UltraEdit and then upload those edits into the server which will in turn reflect those edits on my website. (just typing that sentence sounds confusing). I think the bottom line to this is I DONT KNOW WHERE TO START. I have a website and hosting company. I have UltraEdit. I have ZenCart installed on the server and it is actively working as my website. I just want to make changes and I cant seem to get to the location of where to make those changes. I could really use someone with alot of patience to just give it to me by the numbers. I also just purchased the e book about Zen Cart. I will take notes, listen patiently, and do whatever it takes to get this ball rolling. It's been days since I have seen any progress here and needless to say this is frustrating. Can someone help me out. PLEASE...........:shocking:

24 Feb 2010, 6:18 AM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

The first basic for Zen Cart (or any dynamic website) is that you don't edit pages, you edit files.
There are many PHP files that work together to create the specific HTML output for any given page at runtime. If your desired changes require functional modification, you may need to edit one or more PHP files (unless there is an admin setting for that change); but many design changes will be a matter of adding or changing rules in your stylesheet (/includes/templates/your_template/css/stylesheet.css).

Have you read the tutorials on custom template creation yet?
There is a "program flow" diagram available in Free Addons which may be helpful to you as well.

A description of the kinds of changes you want to make will let us offer more specific advice on where to start.

24 Feb 2010, 6:40 AM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

I think I understand the concept here relating to the changing of files. I am practically blind without sleep here so I will make this short and to the point. I have a website which is actually a Zen Cart. I want to make simple (or so I thought) changes. Such as Changing the text on the home page. Right now is says :Sales Message goes here" and it also has the Zen Cart logo and things like that. I understand that files and stylesheets have to be changed. My problem is I dont know where they are and how to I get to them to change them. I am assuming that the website information is on the server. Also, I have to access it to make the changes. My problem is that I connect to the server through UltraEdit, and a list comes up. I dont know where to go from there. I thought I would be looking for something that said "admin". But there is nothing like that appearing on the list. Hope you can walk me through this.....By the way, I am sure you are right about all the tutorials, I have read them and attempted to absorb the material. But, it does not seem to do me any good if I cant access the place where they are located. Please bear with me, I may set a record here. But I honestly will keep trying until I get this right. Thanks for your response.

24 Feb 2010, 8:20 AM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

All output text is defined in language files. If you want to change some text, log into your Zen Cart admin, paste a distinctive snippet in Tools > Developers Toolkit, lower left box, select all files and search; among the results will be the file and line number where the text is defined.
Download, edit and reupload the file, putting it in a folder for your custom template.

Read the tutorial on custom templates before trying to make any changes to your site; it will save you time and energy.

24 Feb 2010, 8:31 AM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

How did you install zencart on your website/server ?

Do you have all the necessary tools (programs) to help you manage the installation?

Do you know what FTP means?

Do you know how to access your PHP files via FTP?

Do you know how to open these files up for editing - and what PROGRAMS to use when editing them?

Do you know the relationship between the PHP code and the mySQL database?

If you answer these questions, then we can see your level of knowledge and provide a good starting point to help you.

24 Feb 2010, 4:24 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

I received this reply to my inquiry and I thought it best to answer the questions which were asked in the following manner.

How did you install zencart on your website/server ? ZEN CART WAS INSTALLED BY MY HOSTING COMPANY AT MY REQUEST. THEY INSTALLED IT DIRECTLY TO THE SERVER TO HELP ME OUT DURING ONE OF MY CALLS TO THEM.

Do you have all the necessary tools (programs) to help you manage the installation? I DO HAVE SOME TOOLS BUT I AM NOT SURE HOW TO USE THEM.

Do you know what FTP means? FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL

Do you know how to access your PHP files via FTP? NO I DO NOT. THIS IS THE BIG QUESTION.....WHERE ARE THESE FILES LOCATED??????? THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR ME.....WHERE ARE THE FILES AND HOW DO I ACCESS THEM!!!!

Do you know how to open these files up for editing - and what PROGRAMS to use when editing them? NO I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO OPEN THEM

Do you know the relationship between the PHP code and the mySQL database? NO I DO NOT KNOW

If you answer these questions, then we can see your level of knowledge and provide a good starting point to help you.
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I am trying to answer these posts quickly and get the answerrs I need. I am also reading the tutorials to gain knowledge here. Just for a bit of additional information. This is NOT a part time deal. I am working on this FULL TIME to get a better understanding of ZEN and further my interests regarding setting up my website. I do appreciate ANY person who can help. This has been a disaster and I am sure that everyone knows how frustrating this can be when you start out. I will accept any and all help here. THanks for everyones help so far........

24 Feb 2010, 4:32 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

Start with downloading and installing a good FTP tool on your PC. You will need it for accessing the files on your webhost.

Once that is done, you will see things like: /includes/templates/classic/ in the instructions to modify a file ... that is the path to the file. I.e. - open your FTP, login to your hosting account find the www or public_html or whatever directory you have the Zen Cart program in. Then open the includes folder, find the templates folder, etc.

24 Feb 2010, 4:43 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

I have ULTRAEDIT as a FTP TOOL. Is that ok or a good choice? I have found Public HTML and www. How do I know where the Zen Cart is located. What should it look like? Basically, what type of files or file-names should I see in there? LOL. I know I am getting close because I have yet to get this far. Am I on the path to success here. Thanks for your help......

24 Feb 2010, 4:52 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

I have found Public HTML and www. How do I know where the Zen Cart is located.
What url address do you use to ac cess your ZenCart?

If http ://your_domain/ - - then the files/folders are directly at public_html

If http ://your_domain/shop/ or any other folder name then they are at - - public_html/shop/

24 Feb 2010, 4:54 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

To gain access to my ZEN CART I type in https://www.mywebsitename.com/admin. From there i sign in.

24 Feb 2010, 4:59 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

I was actually referring to the frontend which from your post is at
http ://www.mywebsitename.com/ - - which means that the files folders are at public_html when viewed with FTP

24 Feb 2010, 5:05 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

Suggestion- Go to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zencart/files/CURRENT_%20Zen%20Cart%201.3.x%20Series/Zen%20Cart%20v1.3.8%20-%20Full%20Release/zen-cart-v1.3.8a-full-fileset-12112007.zip/download

Download the current release and then unzip it onto your PC's hard drive. you will not be able to run the program, but you can look at the file structure.

24 Feb 2010, 7:52 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

You know what FTP stands for, but you admit to not knowing its purpose...

A FTP program creates a connection between two computers on the internet, allowing an exchange of files between the two machines.

There are some FREE FTP programs (filezilla), but I use a commercially available program called WS-FTP-PRO, made by a company called Ipswitch.

My reasons for choosing this paid-for software over the free Filezilla, is largely for better security and more enhanced (and safer) features.

Because CMS websites operate using code files and a database, you need to understand the relationship between the CODE FILES, and the DATABASE in which a large portion of your site's content is stored.

The FILE SYSTEM and the DATABASE are two completely separate "entities" in a CMS website. Think of these as two "linked branches" that interface with each other, in the process of compiling your site's web pages, which your visitors ultimately see on their computer screens, and which they use to get the site to "behave" in a desired way (such as adding a product to the shopping cart).

The FILE SYSTEM is a complex array of code files that contain "instructions" to govern the behaviour of the site. When a page is called up on a browser, the PHP gets busy assembling all the bits that are needed, according to the "request" being made. It gathers these up from what can be hundreds of places - many of them in the database, others in additional code files, and yet even more (eg: images) from "storage bins" (folders) where they are patiently waiting to be included on a requested page.

The DATABASE is the repository of most of the information (data) that the site needs in order to render pertinent information - such as the description of a product, its price, and its configurations (it may be a shirt that is available in several sizes).

Because the data can be (and indeed is) used in many different parts of the site, it makes good sense to have only "one version" of it, so a 100% reliable piece of data can be called up to take its place on a page. For example, a product TITLE can appear in a product listing, a search result, a product info page, the shopping cart, an order history, an email confirmation.... So you want to be sure that the product TITLE for any given item is accurately rendered every time it is needed.

The PHP will call up the same piece of data, and depending on what that bit of PHP is being expected to do, it will render the single piece of data (product title) in ALL instances where it is needed.

So your web pages are what we call DYNAMIC... They are created when needed. The php assembles a page, and delivers it to the viewer's browser screen.

When they click a link, or a button (eg: Add To Cart), they page they are viewing EVAPORATES forever, and an entirely new one is assembled and sent to the browser. In many cases, an ACTION is performed along the way - when Add To Cart is clicked, not only is a NEW page assembled, but bits of information are added to the database, or "flagged up" as being relevant to a transaction or "event". This is then in "memory" and can be re-called for later uses.

PHP FILES

Sometimes, it is necessary to make edits to CODE FILES. You may wish to change a LABEL, or a phrase of text - or perhaps ajdust some layout features.

When a php FILE needs editing, a COPY of the relevant file needs to be transferred from its place on the server, to your home computer. It can then be opened up, and edits can be made.

As the edits are made on a COPY, the ORIGINAL file is un-touched, so it retains its original behaviour.

Before you send back your EDITED version (via FTP), it is advisable to rename the ORIGINAL file to .bak (as opposed to .php, so that you have a "backup" of the file which you can revert to if your edits contain errors.

There is more to it - such as the over-rides system - but I'll leave that for now... The above needs to be digested first! :D

24 Feb 2010, 9:09 PM
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Re: General HELP!!!!!

Also Fireftp if you use Firefox. Anyways i have a question about the graphic below the footer. I wish to have that removed. I went to the tpl_footer and changed it over there. In the bof-banner #5 display. and uploaded it over to the same folder.