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2 Aug 2010, 4:20 AM
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Very puzzling. Can you identify the ones that ShopAdmin thinks have empty descriptions? (Via search - more options, and choosing Description is empty.) Then, you could compare their descriptions in both ShopAdmin and Zen. Could you share some screen shots of the two?

You can also send us email directly, if you prefer. I'd love to get to the bottom of this and isolate the problem.

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2 Aug 2010, 4:48 AM
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A search for Description "is empty" generates No data records (which is correct). I'll send you screen shots via email. Thanks.

3 Aug 2010, 1:43 AM
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Update: In any descriptions which contained non-printable characters the JSON encoding function in PHP 5.3 would throw up an error.

This has been fixed by Apsona by implementing a version of that function in apsona_functions.php.

7 Aug 2010, 11:02 PM
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Hi,

I have just noticed that when I select the Apsona Admin from the drop down menu in my Zen Cart Admin, it actually creates another Zen Cart Admin login, and after that I can select Apsona and the ShopAdmin will load ??

Also, is there anyway of being able to edit what product a customer has ordered ?

I know there are other add-ons that will do this, but was hoping to do it via Apsona

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12 Aug 2010, 4:10 AM
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I'm having a small problem with importing data. As follows: import category records (update existing) by either csv or pasted data. Data is validated during step 2, step 3 (import) the system progress bar shows timer, however (after 30 minutes) nothing actually gets imported. No error is reported.

Went back to using phpmyadmin to import for now but would like to find out what might be causing this.

12 Aug 2010, 4:16 AM
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jetx:

I'm having a small problem with importing data. As follows: import category records (update existing) by either csv or pasted data. Data is validated during step 2, step 3 (import) the system progress bar shows timer, however (after 30 minutes) nothing actually gets imported. No error is reported.

Went back to using phpmyadmin to import for now but would like to find out what might be causing this.

We just got another bug report about this same issue. We have isolated the problem, and a fix should be out within the next day or so.

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12 Aug 2010, 10:37 PM
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It's working now. Thanks.

24 Aug 2010, 7:58 PM
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Apsona ShopAdmin for Zen Cart

M.A. Sridhar of Apsona ShopAdmin for Zen Cart has asked me to write an assessment of the import process in Apsona ShopAdmin. I am happy to oblige as without his kind assistance it would have taken many more weeks for me to get my new store online. (http://webbermusic.net/newstore/). My store sells music and I am a composer and music publisher. I've recently upgraded from selling only virtual downloads (pdf music scores and mp3 audio files) to including printed music. This means that from a store with about 220 products (titles) I now have a store with over 1800 titles (220 titles plus orchestral material and parts for each title.

The problem was to update the mysql dbase by adding instrumental parts - up to 35 for each title/product. I have tried alternatives and found them far from easy and so was resigned to several weeks of adding products in zen admin.

Apsona ShopAdmin is a free zen cart add on available from:

http://apsona.com/

One has to sign up to get it tho - don't just click the download link on the home page, it took me a while to figure out why it would not install, only by signing up and getting a link do you get all of the files needed.

At this point I discovered Apsona ShopAdmin. Altho far from perfect (understandable, it's only been available a few months and is still being developed) it has not only great potential but has superb support and is free. This sounds just too good to be true and I suspect that it will become a commercial product at some point. But in the mean time it is already a useable and reliable tool for doing mass updates to a zen mysql dbase.

My dbase was updated on a MacBook Pro with the help of Filemaker 9. I have to admit that most of the problems were my own fault in that I am hopelessly ignorant of good database design. In this apsona is quite stringent, it has to know the Model (best if unique), the Name and the Product Type for every product imported. Once the initial import was accomplished (and this was my biggest headache - ensuring every item had a unique Model entry) updting was quite easy and quick. I would make changes in Filemaker, export as a .mer file (for the header) and copy and past into apsona. From exporting from FMaker to finished zen import - maybe a minute.

Preparing the import file:

This is probably the most important step. In apsonaAdmin click on the 'Settings' tab to see the available tables. I have no idea what 'Allowed combinations are' but the others are pretty much self explanatory. Click on whatever table (in the 'Label' column) you wish to import.

A text file may be created in the Downloads folder by clicking on 'CSV'. This file will list the fields and field types (text, number, date, etc.) but not whether a field is required (useful????)

Make a note of all the fields. These fields need not have an entry for every record - so you can update/import for some records and not for others.
Make an note of required fields. These fields must have an entry for every record.
Some fields have to be unique - usually Model (sometimes Name?) and, obviously, any Id field.

If the column headers in the import file are the same as in the Settings tab then apsona will 'Set up fields' (below, import procedure 2.) for you. It's not a big deal to do it yourself tho.

Here is the import procedure:

  1. Provide Data
    1a. prepare a csv or tab (suffix is irrelevant - I usually use .txt) file.
    1b. In apsonaAdmin click on the appropriate tab for whatever you want to import (Orders, Customers, Products, etc.) go to Tools -> Import/update, copy/paste the csv or tab file into the box.
    1c. Click on 'Import new records'.
    1d. Products and Manufacturers only: From the Duplicates drop menu choose either 'Reject' or 'Add (no checking)'.
    1e. Tell apsona what the field serator in the file is: comma tab, or semicolon.
    1f. Find out whether you are in the US or India (it would seem that India formats the date as we do in Britain).
    1g. Products only: If there are no categories defined in zen admin click 'Create missing categories'.
    1h. Click 'Next'.

  2. Set up fields
    2a. If the headers match apsona's headers (pretty much the same as zen's) then the drop menus will be set, otherwise set the drop menus to the correct fields.
    2b. Choose from the 'On data errors' drop menu either 'Stop and show errors' or 'Omit erroneous records'. Common errors are a duplicate model or an empty required field (every record must have a Model, Name and Product Type).
    2c. Click 'Next'

  3. Finish import
    3a. If 'Stop and show errors' was chosen above (2b.) then you will be presented either with a list of errors (cf. 2b) in a pop up window (which can be exported to a text file) or a button to Import. Pressing the 'Import' button commits you.
    3b. Press done.

Now go back to whatever tab you started from (Orders, Customers, Products, etc.) and 'Refresh' and the imports should appear.

The only fields I imported (and updated) were: Manufacurers, Products and Product attributes. All successfully. I could not figure out how to import categories separately (ie other than when importing products) and had to create links in zen admin. I understand this is a Mac problem which is being worked on.

My import order was: Manufacturers -> Products -> Attributes. This seems the logical way to do it and I suspect it might be more difficult to import Manufacturers after importing products. I think this is one of those relational dbase issues that sends my head spinning.

Summa summarum:

Both MA Sridhar and Apsona shopAdmin have been extremely helpful to me. There are many cosmetic enhancements that would make it easier to use and the documentation also leaves much to be desired. I could not have successfully imported over 1800 records without (almost daily) emails and screen sharings. Based on my personal interactions with MA Sridhar I believe him to be seiously dedicated to this project and I believe that in time the documentation and user interface will make this an invaluable tool. I wish him the best of luck and hope this will prove helpful to whoever reads it

John Webber
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http://webbermusic.net/newstore/

28 Aug 2010, 1:16 PM
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I would first of all like to say well done to Apsona for creating such a great tool.
I have been using other carts and in order to import large numbers of product to a new site i would have to create multiple table files and then process them with a excel macro then a sql converter in order to import them using phpmyadmin. Still quicker than manually entering 13,000 or so products (which is one of my smaller sites).
I am now migrating most of my sites to zen cart so I can use Apsona on them.
I do however have a couple of questions and suggestions to make regarding this add on to zen cart.
Before I import my csv file I have to make an extra column in it for product type and this has to be filled with "products - free shipping". Why can't Apsona pick up the product types already specified other than this one? Secondly on this issue if I edit the product type in Zen Cart to reflect what I'm selling, ie. fragrances, candles, etc., then I still can't update to change from product type "products - free shipping" as it still says invalid product type. I can work around this but really this should be a fully functioning feature.
Another issue I have is with the categories, Apsona needs to have a subcategory feature. I know creating sub-categories in Zen Cart is a bit of a di(K around, ie you have to create a category then move it under a parent category. Apsona, being an awesome shop administration tool, should be able to simplify this. It's another thing I can work around but also this should be something that can be handled by this add on. It feels like I'm doing things twice when I have to make the child category the primary category when I import then have to go into zen cart to create the parent category and move the child category into it.
Well enough of the bit(hing I think that Apsona has great potential and although I've only been using it (and zen cart) for a about 6 hours, it has already saved me days of tiresome table creation and conversion.
Keep up the great work Apsona and I assure you I will probably have more questions/issues to come!:clap::clap::clap:

Apsona please feel free to email me directly to discuss any or all of the above.

Cheers
Steve

28 Aug 2010, 6:01 PM
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stevenator - thanks for the comments. I thought it best to follow up on the forum here so that other folks can also provide input.

About product types: Ideally ShopAdmin would automatically supply (if necessary) an extra field value for Product type when importing new products. The problem is that, as far as I know, there is no notion of "default product type" in the Zen Cart database - I can't, for example, read a configuration somewhere to figure out what the default is. The only way the default seems to be enforced is via the select box in Zen Cart's admin page, and that's not something ShopAdmin can autodetect. The difficulty is compounded because Zen Cart lets you change the names of product types, and also because cart owners have varying preferences - some want "Product - General" as default, and others want "Product - free shipping" as default. I am definitely open to suggestions on how to handle this.

Also (perhaps you did not see this) - when the import wizard complains (in step 2) that something is an "invalid product type", you can simply click the offending data value and you will see a dropdown list containing all the valid data values as set by your cart. You can then edit the value right there. You can in fact edit most data in place in step 2.

I'm not sure understood the issue about sub-categories. If you ShopAdmin does indeed support sub-categories. If you want to place a product in the "Gloves" subcategory of the "Accessories" category, you simply use "Accessories: Gloves" as the value in the category cell when importing.

But I might be missing something. Can you please explain further?

And of course please feel free to send us email, as well. We are delighted to get user feedback, and we'll do everything we can to make ShopAdmin more useful.

Thanks again for the feedback.

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31 Aug 2010, 8:25 PM
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The more I work with Apsona the more I am loving it! Took me a while to wrap my head around it - but it is making sense now!

I do have a question on the export feature.....I have a client that needs a very specific file that includes ALL of the information for an order - basically it needs to look like this...where it is showing each specific option chosen, name, email etc...

Can this be done? I see you can export for various areas - but is there an option to export ALL details of an order? Thanks!

62,16142,"SKU1112345514840","SunCover 4000 10-0 Projection","Width Feet: 11, Fabric: Silverstone Spruce 71757, Frame Color: White, Hood: No, Operation: Manual Crank, Drive Side: Left, Mounting Method: Wall, Valance Style: Wave, Valance Braid: Best Match, Crank: 5-11 for over 8 feet high","1538.000",1,"theodorouconstruction","1538.000","0.000",,"0.000",0,,,"0.000","0.000","10-08-2009 09:39:15","C","Credit Card (AuthorizeNet: AIM)","N",,"Larry from DIY setting this up for Mike","--- Advanced info --- Reason: Approved: Approval Code: 094133; Transaction ID: 2555574988 AVS info: Address (Street) and 5 digit ZIP match CVV info: Match",,"Mr.","Mike","Construction","Theodorou Construction",,"Mike","Construction","19 Locust Ave",,"Westmont","NJ","US",08108,"Mr.","Mike","Construction","19 Locust Ave",,"Westmont","NJ","US",08108,"609.458.0235",,,"theodorouconstruction######################"

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31 Aug 2010, 11:55 PM
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Re: Apsona ShopAdmin - a free tool for import/mass update/reporting

jill8026 - glad you like it. We appreciate the feedback.

If you wish to export data records whose fields are all drawn from the Orders table, you can simply export from the Orders tab, via Tools - Export.

But it sounds like you want to create an export that contains some fields from the Orders table, some from the Customers table and some from the Ordered products table. If that's your goal, you can create a report in the Orders tab that contains the fields you want, run it, and export the results. Our website's support area contains examples of how to do this.

Please get in touch with us via email if you want more details.

Regards.
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1 Sep 2010, 6:05 AM
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I just installed Apsona and I had to write and say THANK YOU! I'm using it with ZC 1.3.9f without issue(so far). I'm hosted with GoDaddy, which I mention because someone posted that they had problems that they thought were GoDaddy issues. I was stupid and tried IE first, but switching to Firefox worked like a charm. You saved me an hour just tonight as I wanted to reprice a bunch of commonly priced products which was sheer torture in the ZenCart admin, but a piece of cake in Apsona.

Thanks again for a great app.

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16 Sep 2010, 12:56 PM
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Thank YOU for making this amazing product!
We have an inventory of 45k + items, and have for weeks now been trying to build an import script or use another pre built method to do the work.
Within 6 hours of signing up, and using the product, I was able to get the job done AND prepped for repeat processes.
This was NO small feat for us.
The UI is intuitive, easy to follow. As well are you instructions on how to use it. The directions for each applicable use of the application are veritably flawless.
You guys have done an amazing job! Thank you sooooo much!!

Billy R Baldwin
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17 Sep 2010, 2:08 AM
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Lately (last 3 or 4 days) 4 separate sites when in the Apsona admin frequently (about every minute) display a popup message advising "The server is not responding. Please check your network connection. Status:timeout".

17 Sep 2010, 2:58 AM
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jetx - thanks for this note. This is because we had put in a per-request server timeout of 30 seconds, because we had observed some odd anomalies with imports. But I guess some hosts take even longer than that to respond. We've changed the limit to 2 minutes now. Hopefully that will mitigate the problem.

Thanks again. Please do keep us posted if you run into any glitches.

Regards.
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17 Sep 2010, 3:23 AM
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Great! Thanks for the adjustment, appears to work fine now.

24 Sep 2010, 3:12 PM
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Re: Apsona ShopAdmin - a free tool for import/mass update/reporting

We were in the same boat as numpy, a huge inventory 50k + parts and were really dreading adding them in through other channels.

Lucky for me, I found this wonderful piece of software. Not only does it handle products, but categories as well, and when you have as many of those as we do, it's a real time saver.

Best of all, it's really intuitive and easy to use.

Would definitely recommend anybody that hasn't given this software a try, to do so, I can't imagine how you would be displeased with it.

7 Oct 2010, 11:06 AM
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I have exported products and product attributers from one aspona zencart site and i'm trying to import them into another zencart site which also has aspona installed.

My problem is that i can't work out how to create new entries in the database table.

On all the attributes i am trying to import i get the following error as an example:

"select size does not match any existing values in the products_options_values table."

How do i allow it to import and create the new attribute value?

7 Oct 2010, 2:33 PM
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DVDTitan:

I have exported products and product attributers from one aspona zencart site and i'm trying to import them into another zencart site which also has aspona installed.

My problem is that i can't work out how to create new entries in the database table.

On all the attributes i am trying to import i get the following error as an example:

"select size does not match any existing values in the products_options_values table."

How do i allow it to import and create the new attribute value?

It seems as if you haven't set up the products_options_values table - you will need that before you can import product attributes. One possibility is to export the product options and product option values tables using ShopAdmin and import them into your new cart. After doing this, you should be able to import your product attributes into your new cart.

Hope this helps.
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