Zen Cart Logo
Forums / Templates, Stylesheets, Page Layout / using my own web template

using my own web template

Locked

Views: 1,257

Results 1 to 15 of 15
This thread is locked. New replies are disabled.
20 May 2010, 12:02 AM
#1
hangman21 avatar

hangman21

Zen Follower

Join Date:
May 2010
Posts:
138
Plugin Contributions:
0

using my own web template

Ok...sorry if i am sounding rude but if your going to come here and tell me i just have to use zen-cart template, dont bother posting, this is my website not yours and I want it to look the way I want it to be as describe below

I designed my website already myself but I just need a few small things done, sorry if they are not explained clearly but trying my best

where do i start by doing this, if you want money to do the work, my budget is $50

So here is my website what i want the shop to look: none images work or links
http://sunkissed.comli.com/Html/Shop.html

and here is a free shopping cart system creating by zen-cart that I am using:
http://sunkissed.comli.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1

I want to take zen-cart and intergrate it into my website template because I do not like zen-cart template at all I want to use my own, if you got aim, msn, or yahoo messenger that would be nice than we can talk more about it on there, and if you can teach me how to do it myself that will be nice as well

thanks

20 May 2010, 3:05 AM
#2
afo avatar

afo

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Aug 2004
Location:
New York City
Posts:
6,800
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: using my own web template

If you are willing to put the work into it, Zen Cart can be styled in a variety of ways. The look you want - or something similar - is possible. There are FREE templates available for Zen Cart that you can use as a starting point. You can see them in action at http://(sorry, site offline)/. Simply use the pulldown menu to change templates. When you see something that appeals to you, download it and install it on your site. After that, you can begin modifying it to your liking.

20 May 2010, 4:14 AM
#3
gjh42 avatar

gjh42

Black Belt

Join Date:
Jul 2005
Location:
Upstate NY
Posts:
21,876
Plugin Contributions:
8

Re: using my own web template

The short answer is that you can't do what you are asking for. A highly skilled web developer could integrate Zen Cart's functions into another PHP structure (but not a flat HTML structure), but $50 is a tiny fraction of the cost that would entail.

You don't need to give up your design vision, you need to modify the Zen Cart template to match it. As Afo said, this is quite possible though not simple for your concept. You first need to learn how ZC works so that you know what to modify.

20 May 2010, 5:22 AM
#4
hangman21 avatar

hangman21

Zen Follower

Join Date:
May 2010
Posts:
138
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: using my own web template

nope sorry, i dont want to use a zen-cart template, i already taken a look at them and they look like crap to be honest

i want to use my website not zen-cart website, i just need the shopping cart feature thats all, no other thing

20 May 2010, 6:51 AM
#5
kiddo avatar

kiddo

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Jul 2006
Location:
SF Bay Area
Posts:
837
Plugin Contributions:
1

Re: using my own web template

Making ZC look like your example wouldn't be too hard.

Consider spending your $50 on some books and prepare to roll your sleeves up and get dirty.

Someplace (perhaps on this very forum) you can find lots of help to get going.

20 May 2010, 9:47 AM
#6
stevesh avatar

stevesh

Black Belt

Join Date:
Feb 2005
Location:
Lansing, Michigan USA
Posts:
19,793
Plugin Contributions:
2

Re: using my own web template

Also take a look at these Zencart sites, most of which look every bit as nice as yours:

http://(sorry, site offline)/site/hoff.php

20 May 2010, 10:40 AM
#7
schoolboy avatar

schoolboy

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Jun 2005
Location:
Cumbria, UK
Posts:
10,327
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: using my own web template

hangman21:

nope sorry, i dont want to use a zen-cart template, i already taken a look at them and they look like crap to be honest.

The "generic" template embedded within zencart is designed to show newbies EXACTLY how the software is configured and how each key area of the common template functions.

The variety possible within this core framework is virtually limitless. You are restricted only by your level of skill and knowledge.

One thing is for absolute certain... you will NEVER be able to replicate the dynamic functionality of a CM system in an flat HTML environment. You will spend 48 hours out of every 24 building "pages" and trying to get things to work.

By the way... one of the most COMMERCIALLY SUCCESSFUL sites I have built (turns over more than £1 million every year) uses the "crap zencart template". :P

20 May 2010, 12:51 PM
#8
afo avatar

afo

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Aug 2004
Location:
New York City
Posts:
6,800
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: using my own web template

Zen Cart is not designed to be used the way you describe. It's neither "just a shopping cart" nor a backend for a website.

20 May 2010, 1:44 PM
#9
gjh42 avatar

gjh42

Black Belt

Join Date:
Jul 2005
Location:
Upstate NY
Posts:
21,876
Plugin Contributions:
8

Re: using my own web template

In response to your question, I don't have time to give private lessons on how Zen Cart works or how you would adapt its template sustem. There is plenty of information in the tutorials and the wiki, and I and others will answer specific questions in the forum if you can't find what you need there.
I don't "insist" you use the Zen Cart template; that's just the way it is. If you want Zen Cart's functionality, you need to work with its templating system. You might look at the Sanguis Easy Embed template. I don't know any details about it, but it may help you.

20 May 2010, 2:05 PM
#10
tinas avatar

tinas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Jan 2005
Location:
Lake Havasu, AZ
Posts:
1,090
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: using my own web template

I am not gonna be like everyone else and tell you "it can't be done" as I have seen it done. It does take A LOT of PHP coding and a good understanding of how zen works - but here is a site that uses zen ONLY for checkout. Not one single page that you see before add to cart is a zen page. and it works just fine.
http://www.302designs.com

I WILL tell you that no one is gonna do it for you for $50 and very few are gonna help you do this for free. Zen CAN be designed in any way you want if you know CSS and are willing to work with it. I have worked on the 302 designs site - I don't know who did the original design and/or implementation - but you might try rent-a-coder or posting here in Commercial Help Wanted.

20 May 2010, 2:12 PM
#11
frank18 avatar

frank18

Deceased

Join Date:
Nov 2007
Location:
Sunny Coast, Australia
Posts:
3,427
Plugin Contributions:
2

Re: using my own web template

hangman21:

.........where do i start by doing this, if you want money to do the work, my budget is $50
.......

Just a naive question: is that 50 per hour or 50 for the whole job?? :unsure:

20 May 2010, 3:28 PM
#12
schoolboy avatar

schoolboy

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Jun 2005
Location:
Cumbria, UK
Posts:
10,327
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: using my own web template

frank18:

Just a naive question: is that 50 per hour or 50 for the whole job?? :unsure:

Hey Frank... don't be too optimistic about the "per hour" idea. :D

20 May 2010, 3:41 PM
#13
schoolboy avatar

schoolboy

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Jun 2005
Location:
Cumbria, UK
Posts:
10,327
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: using my own web template

TinaS:

I am not gonna be like everyone else and tell you "it can't be done" as I have seen it done. It does take A LOT of PHP coding and a good understanding of how zen works - but here is a site that uses zen ONLY for checkout. Not one single page that you see before add to cart is a zen page. and it works just fine.
http://www.302designs.com

Tina... I understand that you are making a point with this post, but it does the OP no favours... That site is pretty complex - and frankly I fail to see why the whole thing was not built on zc anyway.

But it is a fair example of how zc can be "carved up" - even though I think the net result is very clunky.

I feel that the OP suffers from a typical malaise - the desire to have a "fancy design" over the ability to "make money".

I usually advise people to largely ignore the cosmetic design, and focus on getting functionality in order. In zencart, this can happen within a few hours on installing the software. Get a basic custom design in place, but don't invest large sums of money OR time in the webshop's initial phase.

To me, the POINT of a webshop is to make money... so, FOCUS ON THAT FIRST...

Later, when truckloads of cash are rolling in, you can invest in more sophisticated design (if you think it's necessary at that stage).

As I said earlier, one of the most commercially successful sites I have built (6 or so years ago) is almost entirely "classic" template... and it makes HUGE money. When I suggested to the client that she considers a design re-vamp, she said DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING. Don't "fix" what ain't broke!

QED

20 May 2010, 4:24 PM
#14
tinas avatar

tinas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Jan 2005
Location:
Lake Havasu, AZ
Posts:
1,090
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: using my own web template

I totally agree - I don't see WHY that site was built the way it was - but you are right I was ONLY making the point that it can be done - not easily and not cheap I am sure ;)

I agree with ya though - the first cart I ever built was 1.2.3 - it is STILL using the same template (upgraded of course at 1.3.0.1) - a very basic Zen template with color and logo changes - and yup you are right it makes money daily and wouldn't consider changing ;)

20 May 2010, 9:23 PM
#15
frank18 avatar

frank18

Deceased

Join Date:
Nov 2007
Location:
Sunny Coast, Australia
Posts:
3,427
Plugin Contributions:
2

Re: using my own web template

schoolboy:

Hey Frank... don't be too optimistic about the "per hour" idea. :D

LOL :laugh::laugh: