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14 Jun 2010, 1:13 AM
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Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

Hi folks,

I'm setting up attributes for motorcycle tires and I don't think i'm doing it right.

There are Sport Tires, Cruiser Tires and Dirt Tires. Each type has many different sizes.

I set up 3 different option names with the corresponding size values, for the three different tire types.

The problem is in easy populate... each tire has a column for each size of all three types, and easy populate can no longer download the full sheet.

Can it not be set up so that each tire type only has the relevant size attributes, instead of a column for all the size attributes?

I'm using 1.3.9a and EP 1.2.5.7.csv

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14 Jun 2010, 5:33 AM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

Try making a seperate product for
Bridgestone - Sport
Bridgestone - Crusier
Bridgestone - Dirt

Same for other mfg's

Then add only the size attribute

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14 Jun 2010, 7:46 AM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

Hi Kobra, thanks for the reply. I have a tonne of products to add and started with tires. So having all tires under one Tire category and subsequent subcategories is the problem?

Tires > Sport > Michelin
.......................Dunlop
.......................Bridgestone
........> Cruiser > Michelin
......................> Dunlop
......................> Bridgestone
........> Dirt > Michelin
.................> Dunlop
.................> Bridgestone

Instead I need to break up the category link box into Sport Tires, Cruiser Tires, Dirt Tires? This would make for a very long list of category buttons.

I've seen other zencart parts sites set up the way I've started and seems to work fine there :(

14 Jun 2010, 8:56 AM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

Ok, so I just moved the products out of the Tire category and into their own top level categories. Then added a new size attribute option name and option values for Dirt tires which I have not entered yet.

However these new values still get added to the far columns of the csv file and can't be downloaded with easy populate.

What am I doing wrong here?

14 Jun 2010, 7:06 PM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

However these new values still get added to the far columns of the csv file and can't be downloaded with easy populate.
The free version of EP does not include support for attributes
Options:

  1. Obtain the paid version
  2. Manually enter for one and copy to a category/sub-cat

Instead I need to break up the category link box into Sport Tires, Cruiser Tires, Dirt Tires? This would make for a very long list of category buttons.

I've seen other zencart parts sites set up the way I've started and seems to work fine there
Not sure what you are referring to???
See this tutorial and linking products
https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=216
https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=325

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14 Jun 2010, 7:35 PM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

sorry for the confusion... don't need the same products to display in different categories.

my concern is that i'm going to end up with a thousand columns once i add all the attributes for different sized chains, sprockets, air filters, oil filters, because every product has every attribute in its row.

each product in EP should only have its respective attributes in its row, but as of now a tire will also have chain, sprocket, filter attributes in its row as well.

14 Jun 2010, 7:38 PM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

my concern is that i'm going to end up with a thousand columns once i add all the attributes for different sized chains, sprockets, air filters, oil filters, because every product has every attribute in its row.
Think that this is an EP issue which is 3rd party and not a standard ZenCart issue

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14 Jun 2010, 7:44 PM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

true, if there's a moderator around please feel free to move this, my apologies for the error.

in the meantime... ?

kobra are you the EP writer?

14 Jun 2010, 8:12 PM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

Just added a new category, subcategory and attributes for a set of chains. downloaded EP attributes and the new chain row has all of the tire size attributes, and the chain attributes are not visible because the spreadsheet is too wide with too many columns.

14 Jun 2010, 10:25 PM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

kobra are you the EP writer?
No I am not.... and I do not use EP

The author's site can be found HERE

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15 Jun 2010, 8:00 AM
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Re: Too many attributes, doesn't make sense

Found the solution... upgrade from Excel 2003 to Excel 2007 as it supports 16,384 columns. See this wiki for spreadsheet program comparisons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Calc#cite_note-10

I can now see all the columns. :)

Now I'll try editing the EP csv file into separate category files so its a little easier to manage.