Expanded Categories + Sub Categories -- but as LI's in a UL?

Hey everyone,

So I've searched for the expanded categories functionality and found only this:

http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=product_contrib_info&cPath=40_52&products_id=392

Which is exactly what I want for the most part... except it doesn't tell you how to make it work. I installed it, it doesn't work, and no matter how many damn settings I checked though I couldn't find anything that made it work.

So, how do I make it so as my entire product category structure is expanded right off the bat?

Second, how do I make it so as the menu structure is in an unordered list (UL) like good design calls for, instead of the stock hackasaurus setting?

Try the 3rd party module "categories dressing"

Okay so I installed that, and while I got it rendering everything in a UL/LI style setup... I now cannot get it to display all the categories expanded. The Ul/li thing is half the battle, the expanded categories is next and essential!

http://zen.securetesting4.info/

This is where I am testing everything on a basic zen cart install. I want the entire left category to be expanded at all times!

want the entire left category to be expanded at all times!
Search the modules available

Well that wasn't helpful... neither is zen-carts search functionality... or the documentation...

The ch_category thing included with the category dressing should provided said functionality, but I can't get it to work. I've followed the miserable instructions included with both it and category dressing, and I either can't get it to work or... well who knows!

Why is it that the zen-cart community also doesn't how "demonstrations" for their plugins? I instead have to hope that the writers of your modules/plugins have the same terminology (which isn't standardized as best as I can tell for zen-cart). Demonstrations would be very useful.

Why is it that the zen-cart community also doesn't how "demonstrations" for their plugins? I instead have to hope that the writers of your modules/plugins have the same terminology (which isn't standardized as best as I can tell for zen-cart).
They are 3rd party and contributed by volunteers....
You do not have to use them and can write your own if you prefer

Many have their own support threads on this forum where your questions may have already been answered

From the module download description
Support thread: http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67676