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29 Oct 2010, 10:52 PM
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upgrade put off long enough

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// HTTP_SERVER is your Main webserver: eg-http://www.your_domain.com
// HTTPS_SERVER is your Secure webserver: eg-https://www.your_domain.com
define('HTTP_SERVER', 'http://www.stitchnframeonline.com/windflowergrdemo');
define('HTTPS_SERVER', 'https://www.stitchnframeonline.com/windflowergrdemo');

FOUND it!!!!!!!!!

30 Oct 2010, 5:14 AM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

Hope you found that it does not belong in this entry....

// HTTP_SERVER is your Main webserver: eg-http://www.your_domain.com
// HTTPS_SERVER is your Secure webserver: eg-https://www.your_domain.com
define('HTTP_SERVER', 'http://www.stitchnframeonline.com');
define('HTTPS_SERVER', 'https://www.stitchnframeonline.com');

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4 Nov 2010, 11:53 PM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

TY Kobra
yes
I think I may almost be there. Except:
I have tested and other than my pics which I am hoping will connect when I bring my folders from the subfolder to the public_html folder
But - I have lost the option to do credit cards - I have checked the admin in the credit cards and visa and master card are checked to 1.
At the check out the only option is check/ money order.

5 Nov 2010, 1:08 AM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

old site there is a cc off line processing that is engaged in payment mod- I dont see that option on the 'g'. Have I lost something?

5 Nov 2010, 1:53 AM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

It was removed from v1.3.9 for PCI Compliance reasons. If you absolutely can't live without it and your bank is allowing you to use that method, you can use the Ceon Manual Card addon instead.

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5 Nov 2010, 4:29 PM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

It is on the other one I upgraded????

5 Nov 2010, 4:40 PM
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It is on the other one I upgraded????
Only if you left files behind.

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5 Nov 2010, 5:45 PM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

ok but I thought I had done a fresh install into a new folder - this is in a subfolder to public_html

5 Nov 2010, 5:52 PM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

Let me re-state myself: It could only be "on the other one (you) upgraded" if you had left the files for that module on the site you upgraded.

A "fresh install in to a new folder" will NOT have a "offline credit card" module if you're using v1.3.9, unless you add files for it yourself.

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OK I could not understand since I did a fresh install why That cc offline would be available.
Well I have spent 3 weeks of work trying to get the bugs out of this site and I notice that my version is 1.3.8a.
My heart sank and so did my spirits - But it does explain the cc situation.
Now what happened I havent the foggiest but I will have to start all over. I cant say it will be easier. :frusty:
DR byte and Kobra TY for your support.

11 Nov 2010, 6:59 PM
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Stitchnkitty did you manage to do this upgrade ok? I have same prob. Im trying to upgrade today from 1.3.8a to 1.3.9h and am getting nowhere fast! Im on the install page and it says
Ready to Install? (This will wipe any existing data. You are NOT in Upgrade mode!!!)
Did you get past this bit? Id be grateful for any tips. Ive read all the stuff they tell you to read but I just dont understand some of it.

11 Nov 2010, 8:30 PM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

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Im on the install page and it says
Ready to Install? (This will wipe any existing data. You are NOT in Upgrade mode!!!
I will post the link to the upgrae tutorial again
You should NOT be upgrading your live shop directly nor it's Database
https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=108

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Thanks for replying kobra.
Ive read that tutorial through and through but still it doesnt tell me what I need to know.

I am using Zen Cart version 1.3.8a and trying to upgrade it to the 1.3.9h version. First time Ive ever done an upgrade. I've been trying all day but only got this far...

Unzip a copy of the new version of Zen Cart™, upload it to your webserver into a "demo" folder, ...

but the next bit has got me stumped!

...and install the new version into a separate database, and include the Demo products.

Im about to install and at the bottom it says -
Ready to Install? (This will wipe any existing data. You are NOT in Upgrade mode!!!)

I'm putting it on the server in a separate 'demo' area.

Can you tell me whether I'm in the right place to install this please? Im scared I'll wipe my whole site off if I do something wrong. Ive been reading the zencart forums for hours and have read all the help pages.

11 Nov 2010, 8:46 PM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

You first need to create a new database, user & pass to provide when you install the new version

And, First backup all your current shop file and it's database in the event you do mess something up
https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=103

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Re: upgrade put off long enough

OK, I've read over the tutorial as well as all the info in this post (thanks for that), and I'm about to do my first upgrade.

I'm going from v1.3.9f to v1.3.9h. My question is.. In order to figure out the changed files from f to h, I need to combine the files listed in:
changelog-v1-3-9g.html
-and-
changelog-v1-3-9g.html

which would be the aggregate of:

Changed Files (since release of v1.3.9f)-and-> Changed Files (since release of v1.3.9g)

(and take into account deletions/new additions)

.. or am I way off?

I do have to say, after doing many installs for community platforms (like phpbb and vbulletin) for various sites.. the amount of work involved in upgrading zenCart has me reconsidering moving forward with using it. :( It's not that I think I can't do it, but it really seems to be overly hands-on. :dontgetit

11 Nov 2010, 9:29 PM
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I do have to say, after doing many installs for community platforms (like phpbb and vbulletin) for various sites.. the amount of work involved in upgrading zenCart has me reconsidering moving forward with using it.

It's not that I think I can't do it, but it really seems to be overly hands-on.
If you make no changes to any files or add any 3rd party modules then you only need to copy all files/overwrite the existing ones...

But alas, even out of the box it is not exactly waht any individual wants and as there are many usind it that can have fully different combinations of alterations/addons and it is this that make the upgrade a task of comparing files customized to those that have new versions...

If one uses the override system then those are the only files that need to checked against the changelog

1.3.9g to 1.3.9h is only a handful of files that you need to upload

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Understandable, but I've made highly customized versions of other community sites, and upgrades have always been a breeze. I've never had to set up separate databases, duplicate instances of the files, etc. (though I do, of course, back everything up before updates).

I like ZenCart, it has nice features, it's been great to customize (and I've created a ***highly ***stylized version of the store, thus many customizations) and I have no worries that I can handle the update myself..

The problem lies in the fact that I will be handing this off to the client upon completion, who will never be able to handle an update like this. Heck, in my experience, clients are even hesitant to press that "update now" link in the friggin' wordpress admin, which is about as hands-free as it gets. :frusty:

But, I digress....

So, you say there's only a handful of files between g and h the have been updated. Is this list in the release notes wrong? I want to make sure I'm not looking at the wrong changelogs.

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11 Nov 2010, 10:37 PM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

ekoo:

I'm going from v1.3.9f to v1.3.9h. My question is.. In order to figure out the changed files from f to h, I need to combine the files listed in:
changelog-v1-3-9g.html
-and-
changelog-v1-3-9g.html

I am doing the same thing and I am just curious if I have to do the updates from f to g and then from g to h. Is that what you have to do, or can you go with the change log from g to h and be done with it?

11 Nov 2010, 11:03 PM
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Re: upgrade put off long enough

ekoo,

Understandable, but I've made highly customized versions of other community sites, and upgrades have always been a breeze.
Yeah like word press??? what major functionality is there??
Not at all comparable to the complexity of a cart script
So, you say there's only a handful of files between g and h the have been updated. Is this list in the release notes wrong?
The majority of that list are admin files and these very few customize so just over write them
The others can also be overwritten
Just check your custome files against them so that if you have a custom version of any of them then you need to incorporate your customizations into the new file

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Re: upgrade put off long enough

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ekoo,

Yeah like word press??? what major functionality is there??
Not at all comparable to the complexity of a cart scriptNah, wordpress was just an example of something overly simplistic that end-clients are scared to touch the "update" stuff on. Not everyone's as computer literate as the folks that are putting these things together for them. I was referring to things like vbulletin, phpbb, and notably SMF forum with tinyportal integration.

Please don't take offense, but I've noticed in a lot of your posts you're quite short with people. You have to understand that this is really new to a lot of us, and even if we're seasoned vets in web design/dev, we're new to Zen Cart. You're very helpful, but try to remember some of us are limping through this trying to get up to speed and learn the ins and outs.

I'm going to try to do the update now, by the book, but I'm still curious (like ride 22) if we have to do sequential updates, or do we just have to read through both update version's changelogs to figure out what exactly is being updated.