Which WYSIWYG Editor to use?

I NEED an editor for my zencarts which allows me to do all the standard stuff like edit text, bold, italic, change fot size and colour etc etc but it also MUST allow images to be uploaded and added into the text body within the editor.

I dont want to have to upload the images via FTP first to the server then added images by adding a URL i want an editor with an upload option. I have tried a fur and none seem to work correctly or not compatible with the new 1.3.9 version.

any one tell me which works with 1.3.9 and has an image upload option.

PS i used to use FCKeditor back on 1.3.7 and 1.3.8 which was the perfect editor

FCKEditor was far from perfect. It produced poor markup and required significant hacking of the core Zen Cart code to integrate it, which also means that it doesn't play nicely with other add-ons.

Even the authors recognised that it could be better and have moved on to produce CKEditor as the new generation product.

That said, there's not a lot to choose between CKEditor and TinyMCE. They're both heaps better than HTML editors were barely a year ago.

BUT, neither will allow you to upload images. Both have this facility as a paid-for add-on and require integrations that don't play nicely with Zen Cart.

The background to this is that pushing images from a browser to a server is an inherently insecure approach. It's very easy for hackers to disguise their prodding as a browser and upload dodgy files. Many of the worst hacks have been achieved this way. So image uploaders need to be very secure and actively maintained to ensure that they stay that way.

Moreover, Zen Cart is quite rightly locked down very tightly for security. This is a significant problem in respect of browser based image uploaders, since they're locked out. It is possible to open a hole for them to get through, but the only way I've seen it done securely is to relocate the entire editor and integrate it into the admin. Not for the faint-hearted!

So in summary. You're unlikely to find a good editor, offering the facility that you want, securely. You can pay for it, but even then, may have difficulty integrating it.

bottom line... there isn't away of adding images to item descriptions without FTP using a seportate program anymore??

what over ways around this are there?? I can see the head ache i going to have having to train all the staff i work with here how to FTP and installing FTP software on all the PC's here and at home offices and then explain about finding URL's etc... most of the people i work with are all in the later years.... great at answering plumbing questions or hair dresssing question but not the best on PC's just know the basics

kitcorsa:

most of the people i work with are all in the later years.... great at answering plumbing questions or hair dresssing question but not the best on PC's just know the basics

Being in the 'later years' myself, I resent this comment.

Incidently, what kind of business do you have that it requires plumbers and hairdressers to function?

Oh, I'm also convinced that you have just insulted the plumbers and hairdresses too, both jobs which require skills and training.

As for training your staff about FTP, what is so hard about this? If they can use a file manager they can use FTP... all you need to is preset the server and upload directory for them and it is just a matter of drag and drop... a heck of a lot faster and easier than trying to use a web interface and one image at a time. It'll even save time/money.. for minimal training.
WYSIWYG editors have their place, and that place is for simple HTML markup.. using them for anything else is using the wrong tool for the job at hand.

Just my 2cents worth.

Cheers
Rod

kitcorsa:

which allows me to do all the standard stuff like edit text, bold, italic, change fot size and colour etc etc
Why use any markup for this??

Boilerplate it and use named div's for the differing content.
Then they only need to enter the text format, caps bold line breaks etc

Then use css to style the div content all in one uniform presentation
If you ever want to chabge it - it is only a stylesheet alteration and not several hundred product descriptions

It could look something like this in a file they cut & paste first then add the required content

<div id="desc">
replace this text with your description

</div>

<div id="specs">
Replace this test with the specifications

</div>

and so forth

Then add #desc & #specs to your css stylesheet file with particulars

yes kobra have that already but then we also need to over ride that from time to time with headline in a different colour like... total price of this item delivered and fitted for only £xx in nice big red text, Editor with an interface which look like word for windows which most people know is the easiest option for the oporator other than training them HTML.

I emply plumber who have worked in the plumbing instury as fitters for over 40 years but now age has got to where they are unable to carry baths any more and fit them... but they have have knowlege that is untrainable so emply them to advice customers on purchases and maintain the product range. Many of these have work outside all there life and NEVER used a PC in there life. So far i trained them up to ECDL level in computer just need to take it that bit further