Image Handler 3 Support Thread (for ZC v1.3.9)

DivaVocals:

Got beta testers.. All volunteers are still working diligently to make sure we do a thorough job testing and tweaking.. But remember it's work done in folks free time..

Shall I assume that everyone who uses IH have not yet upgraded to 1.5?

Probably a good bet. Those of us who use it wouldn't know how to cope without it. Image manager is pretty much the only other option, and its just painfull.

SPH:

Shall I assume that everyone who uses IH have not yet upgraded to 1.5?
They can't use the 1.3.9 compatible version in the free-downloads with Zen Cart v1.5 if that's the question you are asking..

DivaVocals:

They can't use the 1.3.9 compatible version in the free-downloads with Zen Cart v1.5 if that's the question you are asking..

Thanks. I tried installing IH3 on a test 1.5 cart other day just to see: nope.

I remember my early zencart days doing images the default way. I cannot imagine anyone not using Image Handler, especially if have lots of photos. Image Handler and Easy Populate are, imo, the two greatest mods...and perform better than the built-in counterparts in other free carts. Zencart really can be the best!

SPH:

Thanks. I tried installing IH3 on a test 1.5 cart other day just to see: nope.
Ummmmm..... So I take it that you HAVE NOT seen any of the threads discussing the upgrade efforts????? (suggest going back a page or two in this thread)

DivaVocals:

Ummmmm..... So I take it that you HAVE NOT seen any of the threads discussing the upgrade efforts????? (suggest going back a page or two in this thread)

I guess thats what they call "learning the hard way" :D

Just can't remember but IH3 once it gets done for zc1.5 is not going to be backward compatible, right?

Since we don't deal with credit card sales at all, nor checks or cash...then we may stick with 1.3.9h for quite a bit longer.

I installed IH3 few minutes ago and after minor modifications it works under 1.5. Tomorrow will test and provide for download in download section.

DarkAngel:

Just can't remember but IH3 once it gets done for zc1.5 is not going to be backward compatible, right?

Since we don't deal with credit card sales at all, nor checks or cash...then we may stick with 1.3.9h for quite a bit longer.No plans AT ALL to make IH4 backwards compatible.. Shop owners will need to upgrade to Zen Cart v1.5 to use IH4. Only reason to consider making an add-on backwards compatible is if we were fixing bugs currently existing..

There are a few new features/improvements in IH4:

• Seriously EASY auto installer and equally easy uninstaller. (retains backups of "pre IH3" core files for easy rollback in the event of an uninstall)
• Improved language support (removed all hard-coded text and moved into proper language files)
• Enhancements to help further reduce errors from invalid file uploads
• Use IH4 Image Manager even if you choose NOT to use any of the image caching or other management features.
  Given the free time being invested by ALL the volunteers involved in this upgrade effort, it is not worth making any serious effort to update IH3 to include these same features/enhancements -- even for the sake of backwards compatibility.

IH3 is stable and works for Zen Cart v1.3.9 stores.. Therefore, the enhancements in IH4 will be available only if you upgrade to Zen Cart v1.5.

ryska:

I installed IH3 few minutes ago and after minor modifications it works under 1.5. Tomorrow will test and provide for download in download section.
Suggest waiting.. There has been an effort already underway to put together an updated Image Handler which is v1.5 compatible.. we have a new and IMPROVED version that is in the final testing stages.. (you apparently missed all the posts about this effort) The plan was (and still is) to submit the updated version this weekend.. I will probably make it available on my site while we wait for approval..

DivaVocals:

Ummmmm..... So I take it that you HAVE NOT seen any of the threads discussing the upgrade efforts????? (suggest going back a page or two in this thread)

I previously saw the upgrade posts and know how to use a forum, thank you.

SPH:

I previously saw the upgrade posts and know how to use a forum, thank you.
Awesome..:smile:

Ok, I did not want to wait a long time, I need it for a production site. In this case, wait for your version. :-)

ryska:

Ok, I did not want to wait a long time, I need it for a production site. In this case, wait for your version. :-)
Well we work as fast as VOLUNTEERS who receive no compensation for donating our time can work.. Plus I like to conduct a THOROUGH UA testing and to write proper user documents.

All of that takes TIME to put together.. I understand folks need THINK they need this TODAY, but the truth is that v1.3.9h is stable and safe and v1.5 upgrades don't HAVE to happen today. So a taking a little extra time to do this right in my opinion is the best way to proceed for the long term versus tossing something RUSHED over the fence to the community.

That said it sounds like you have a solution for yourself. So your upgrade effort isn't being impeded by waiting for our release to be finished. That said this is open source so there's NOTHING stopping you from submitting your version.:ohmy: However, since there has been an active ongoing effort to update this add-on I am glad you are choosing to wait and let us FINISH our release and get it out to the community.:clap:

DivaVocals:

That said it sounds like you have a solution for yourself. So your upgrade effort isn't being impeded by waiting for our release to be finished. That said this is open source so there's NOTHING stopping you from submitting your version.:ohmy: However, since there has been an active ongoing effort to update this add-on I am glad you are choosing to wait and let us FINISH our release and get it out to the community.:clap:Let me clarify this last part..

ryska it sounds like you have a solution for your own upgrade solution so while it's nice that you have chosen to wait for our release for your own upgrade, I was MORE concerned about you submitting your release before my team gets a chance to submit ours.

While I certainly can't stop you from sharing your update with the community, I am glad you have chosen to NOT to submit it and allow us to get our release out. I think it would have created a fair amount of confusion if our release is submitted to the community RIGHT behind your release. (which I am betting based on the included enhancements looks NOTHING like yours :smile:)

DivaVocals:

No plans AT ALL to make IH4 backwards compatible.. Shop owners will need to upgrade to Zen Cart v1.5 to use IH4. Only reason to consider making an add-on backwards compatible is if we were fixing bugs currently existing..

There are a few new features/improvements in IH4:

• Seriously EASY auto installer and equally easy uninstaller. (retains backups of "pre IH3" core files for easy rollback in the event of an uninstall)

• Improved language support (removed all hard-coded text and moved into proper language files)

• Enhancements to help further reduce errors from invalid file uploads

• Use IH4 Image Manager even if you choose NOT to use any of the image caching or other management features.

Given the free time being invested by ALL the volunteers involved in this upgrade effort, it is not worth making any serious effort to update IH3 to include these same features/enhancements -- even for the sake of backwards compatibility.

IH3 is stable and works for Zen Cart v1.3.9 stores.. Therefore, the enhancements in IH4 will be available only if you upgrade to Zen Cart v1.5.

tjanks Diva, one can always count on you to give an answer. When and if we ever do upgrade to 1.5 we will most certainly use the IH4 vs another persons---only because I know the hard work put into this one with the various updates and have used it so am aware it works properly...no offense meant to anyone else.

DarkAngel:

tjanks Diva, one can always count on you to give an answer. When and if we ever do upgrade to 1.5 we will most certainly use the IH4 vs another persons---only because I know the hard work put into this one with the various updates and have used it so am aware it works properly...no offense meant to anyone else.
You're welcome IH4 is pretty nice IMHO..:smile:

ryska:

I installed IH3 few minutes ago and after minor modifications it works under 1.5. Tomorrow will test and provide for download in download section.

Where is this mythical downloads section I am hearing so much about? Is the download ready?

Thank you!

gigdates:

Where is this mythical downloads section I am hearing so much about? Is the download ready?

Thank you!
So you apparently missed ALL of the follow-up discussion that followed ryska's post..

DivaVocals:

Suggest waiting.. There has been an effort already underway to put together an updated Image Handler which is v1.5 compatible.. we have a new and IMPROVED version that is in the final testing stages.. (you apparently missed all the posts about this effort) The plan was (and still is) to submit the updated version this weekend.. I will probably make it available on my site while we wait for approval..

ryska:

Ok, I did not want to wait a long time, I need it for a production site. In this case, wait for your version. :-)

DivaVocals:

Well we work as fast as VOLUNTEERS who receive no compensation for donating our time can work.. Plus I like to conduct a THOROUGH UA testing and to write proper user documents.

All of that takes TIME to put together.. I understand folks need THINK they need this TODAY, but the truth is that v1.3.9h is stable and safe and v1.5 upgrades don't HAVE to happen today. So a taking a little extra time to do this right in my opinion is the best way to proceed for the long term versus tossing something RUSHED over the fence to the community.

That said it sounds like you have a solution for yourself. So your upgrade effort isn't being impeded by waiting for our release to be finished. That said this is open source so there's NOTHING stopping you from submitting your version.:ohmy: However, since there has been an active ongoing effort to update this add-on I am glad you are choosing to wait and let us FINISH our release and get it out to the community.:clap:

DivaVocals:

Let me clarify this last part..

ryska it sounds like you have a solution for your own upgrade solution so while it's nice that you have chosen to wait for our release for your own upgrade, I was MORE concerned about you submitting your release before my team gets a chance to submit ours.

While I certainly can't stop you from sharing your update with the community, I am glad you have chosen to NOT to submit it and allow us to get our release out. I think it would have created a fair amount of confusion if our release is submitted to the community RIGHT behind your release. (which I am betting based on the included enhancements looks NOTHING like yours :smile:)

If ryska wants to share his version with you, you can certainly contact him about sending it to you.. and let's be CLEAR here -- he's NOT obligated to share his version with ANYONE. As you can see from previous posts, ryska has graciously agreed to not submit his update and allow us to finish our QA testing, updating the add-on documentation, and properly submit the new AND IMPROVED Image Handler 4 for Zen Cart v1.5. In doing so I believe this will minimize community confusion.

The documentation is being updated, and I am hoping we can submit it this weekend.. We appreciate the communities patience.

DivaVocals:

So you apparently missed ALL of the follow-up discussion that followed ryska's post..

If ryska wants to share his version with you you can certainly contact him about sending it to you.. ryska has graciously agreed to not submit his update and allow us to finish our QA testing, updating the add-on documentation, and properly submit the new AND IMPROVED Image Handler 4 for Zen Cart v1.5. In doing so I believe this will minimize community confusion.

The documentation is being updated, and I am hoping we can submit it this weekend.. We appreciate the communities patience.

I didn't miss ALL the posts, I just got confused since there where so many! :(. I will stand by for later this weekend! Where can I submit a cash donation? I am sure others want to know as well!