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17 Jan 2012, 12:03 AM
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Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

The issue though is not an problem with the Ceon URI mod hence why I say you need to resolve the REAL issue which is CLEARLY not with code from this mod but from the Fual Slimbox mod.. the issue is clearly with the Fual Slimbox mod.. (which hasn't seen an update in a month of Sundays BTW) and that needs to be resolved on the Fual Slimbox support thread not here.. Conor is one of the MOST helpful mod authors here, but he will not support or troubleshoot issue with other errant mods..

My suggestion is to uninstall Fual Slimbox get Ceon URI working correctly and find a different (more up to date) Lightbox mod mod instead.. Suggest Zen Lightbox..

Limitless:

fual slimbox was the offending mod (but it was any and every 'include'). I am not stating its a Ceon URI issue, I was just looking for some guidance after going through nearly 5 years of threads related to enabling SEO friendly urls, specifically CEON's URI Mapping and fual slimbox. I found an old post <referenced> where Conor had seen the exact same issue in 2009. I am not the only one that has had these issues and thought it was a relevant place to post as I was referencing his old post.

17 Jan 2012, 12:24 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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The issue though is not an problem with the Ceon URI mod hence why I say you need to resolve the REAL issue which is CLEARLY not with code from this mod but from the Fual Slimbox mod.. the issue is clearly with the Fual Slimbox mod.. (which hasn't seen an update in a month of Sundays BTW) and that needs to be resolved on the Fual Slimbox support thread not here.. Conor is one of the MOST helpful mod authors here, but he will not support or troubleshoot issue with other errant mods..

My suggestion is to uninstall Fual Slimbox get Ceon URI working correctly and find a different (more up to date) Lightbox mod mod instead.. Suggest Zen Lightbox..

Whether the issue with relative/absolute paths was 'masked' previously is sort of irrelevant. I purchased his product 'URI Mapping Manager', enabled SEO links on existing products and it blew stuff up. I searched and read nearly every post on the subject of URI mapping and the issues it causes with BAD mods. Found the exact same issue that he had resolved for someone else, was looking for guidance/insight. Forum searches on the subject ALL lead to his threads, which again is why I felt it relevant to post there, maybe help someone else out.

FWIW, Zen Lightbox did not work either, which is why I was leaning towards a template issue, not every single mod that was installed prior to enabling his.

Makes me a bit hesitant to purchase some of the other software he has available though...

17 Jan 2012, 1:24 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

The issue with Fual Slimbox is STILL an issue. Fual Slimbox has not been updated since Jan 13 2008. Conor gives a summary of the issue that needs to be corrected in the thread you referenced.. If you want details on the fix, the correct place to post that question is in the Fual Slimbox support thread..

Frankly the issue Conor pointed out just needs to be fixed not because it's needed to work with THIS mod, but because the Fual Slimbox mod is using incorrect code. This will cause other issues for ANY shopowner using it..

conor:

It's not a problem with Ceon URI Mapping so Fual Slimbox possibly is broken.. I forgot about that post and never did get around to fixing other people's modules.

I've even less time these days so definitely won't be doing it now! :)

Your "fix" as Conor correctly pointed out is not the way to resolve your issue

conor:

You've kludged it but not found it. Ceon URI Mapping doesn't require anything to be modified like that.

Regardless, life and time is short so I'll leave things with you. :)

All the best..

Conor
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Limitless:

Perhaps its in the template?
Regardless, if I shut off URI Mapping, everything was fine, enabled it mangled css and js.And that doesn't mean anything is wrong with THIS mod.. The issue is another mod or your template which is causing the issue..

Limitless:

fual slimbox was the offending mod (but it was any and every 'include'). I am not stating its a Ceon URI issue, I was just looking for some guidance after going through nearly 5 years of threads related to enabling SEO friendly urls, specifically CEON's URI Mapping and fual slimbox. I found an old post <referenced> where Conor had seen the exact same issue in 2009. I am not the only one that has had these issues and thought it was a relevant place to post as I was referencing his old post.Again, the issue is that Fual Slimbox is coded incorrectly and because it's coded incorrectly it does not work with Ceon URI. The improper coding of Fual Slimbox should be resolved on the Fual Slimbox support thread.

Limitless:

Whether the issue with relative/absolute paths was 'masked' previously is sort of irrelevant. I purchased his product 'URI Mapping Manager', enabled SEO links on existing products and it blew stuff up. You assume this means the Mapping Manager mod is bad?? To the contrary.. This is an understandable, but flawed assumption.. After 17+ years in software development and having spent COUNTLESS hours troubleshoot issues with software, I KNOW that sometimes good software will bring out hidden issues with BAD software.. I like others here have also installed Conor's software on MANY sites, and the only thing that ever "blew up" were poorly coded mods which didn't play nice with Conor's mods..

Limitless:

I searched and read nearly every post on the subject of URI mapping and the issues it causes with BAD mods. Found the exact same issue that he had resolved for someone else, was looking for guidance/insight. Forum searches on the subject ALL lead to his threads, which again is why I felt it relevant to post there, maybe help someone else out.Understood, but Conor cannot FIX another mod for you.. You need to take issues with OTHER mods to the appropriate support thread for that mod..

Limitless:

FWIW, Zen Lightbox did not work either, which is why I was leaning towards a template issue, not every single mod that was installed prior to enabling his.

Makes me a bit hesitant to purchase some of the other software he has available though...I think that's a tad bit of an overreaction since the issue really is with other mods/templates you are using which are not properly coded. I know troubleshooting sucks, but you may have to look at EVERY mod or your template in your install.. You can start with the one that uses those improperly coded javascripts.. the ones both Conor and I have pointed out to you.. and they are NOT Fual Slimbox scripts..

conor:

Follow all the instructions in the Ceon URI Mapping FAQs and if that's not enough, you should pay someone with PHP skills to help you.

All the best..

Conor
ceonI think this is sound advice.. A paid professional could probably have you all sorted out in a few hours..

17 Jan 2012, 2:10 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Hi DivaVocals,

DivaVocals:

The issue with Fual Slimbox is STILL an issue. Fual Slimbox has not been updated since Jan 13 2008. Conor gives a summary of the issue that needs to be corrected in the thread you referenced.. If you want details on the fix, the correct place to post that question is in the Fual Slimbox support thread..

To be honest, I have inklings of remembrance of this issue and possibly I'd said I'd update the Slimbox module.. I guess time got in the way (I haven't re-read the thread to see what I said).

Given the fact that it still seems to be a problem, I may look into fixing this other module to save others the hassle.. it's probably a two or three line fix.

I appreciate your responses DivaVocals but I really don't mind helping, I don't think Limitless is out of place in trying to get help with this issue on this thread considering the other software appears to be unsupported.. I'm getting in contact privately to see if a line or two of code can sort this out for him.

I had just been saying that I'm never comfortable myself leaving kludges in place, but that this was working for Limitless' combination of template and 3rd party module and that with my time being at such a low these days that I was happy to leave things at that for the minute.

Anyway.. I'll most likely get this sorted quickly and after about 10 module updates I've just about ready to release, I might modify/fix one or two 3rd party unsupported modules as well, to save anyone else this hassle, and to save us having to answer any further posts on them.. better for everyone then! :)

Good night for now!

All the best...

Conor
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17 Jan 2012, 2:17 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

I KNOW you don't mind helping at all..:smile: You are one of the good guys 'round here.. :) I was simply trying to get across the point that this isn't necessarily the right place to discuss other broken mods.. 'tis all.. :smile:

Plus I know you are going to be offline for a bit so wanted to offer other options for getting the issue resolved.:smile:

Anyway, your touch on Fual Slimbox wll be nice.. would you be handling the v1.5 compatibility too or just the errant link code??

conor:

Hi DivaVocals,

To be honest, I have inklings of remembrance of this issue and possibly I'd said I'd update the Slimbox module.. I guess time got in the way (I haven't re-read the thread to see what I said).

Given the fact that it still seems to be a problem, I may look into fixing this other module to save others the hassle.. it's probably a two or three line fix.

I appreciate your responses DivaVocals but I really don't mind helping, I don't think Limitless is out of place in trying to get help with this issue on this thread considering the other software appears to be unsupported.. I'm getting in contact privately to see if a line or two of code can sort this out for him.

I had just been saying that I'm never comfortable myself leaving kludges in place, but that this was working for Limitless' combination of template and 3rd party module and that with my time being at such a low these days that I was happy to leave things at that for the minute.

Anyway.. I'll most likely get this sorted quickly and after about 10 module updates I've just about ready to release, I might modify/fix one or two 3rd party unsupported modules as well, to save anyone else this hassle, and to save us having to answer any further posts on them.. better for everyone then! :)

Good night for now!

All the best...

Conor
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17 Jan 2012, 2:20 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

DV,

Considering your fervent defense in Feb 2010 of the mods in question here: http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpost.php?p=846508&postcount=1182 I erroneously assumed that this mod was working with CEON's URI mod.

No, I am not saying his software is broken. I am saying that his software BROKE something. Completely different.
As someone who also has nearly 20 years in Enterprise IT, I am aware of incompatibilities, troubleshooting, etc. and how code falls apart under different scenarios.

I purchased his software because what I saw was top-notch, installation, interface and execution. I searched the forums and while I could have opened a support ticket with him at 3am, I decided to post up a question instead based on the exact same issue being reported AND you stating that the Fual Lightbox mod worked with his software.

In my first post, I showed the 404 here:
"GET /light-communication/includes/templates/bask_black/jscript/slimbox/fual_slimbox.compressed.js HTTP/1.0" 404

Most definitely a Fual Slimbox file. The remaining posts had various snips of the source, logs, etc. edited for brevity.

I posted follow up questions as he intimately knows his software. If I were to pursue paying a programmer to fix my kludge, I would have no idea how to explain the issue without the additional insight I was hoping to glean from his post that I referenced in my initial inquiry. My 'workaround' has now provided me that additional insight, if nothing else.

Reminds me of a joke...

How many programmers does it take to change a light bulb?

None, its a hardware problem.

17 Jan 2012, 2:22 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

conor:

Hi DivaVocals,

To be honest, I have inklings of remembrance of this issue and possibly I'd said I'd update the Slimbox module.. I guess time got in the way (I haven't re-read the thread to see what I said).

Given the fact that it still seems to be a problem, I may look into fixing this other module to save others the hassle.. it's probably a two or three line fix.

I appreciate your responses DivaVocals but I really don't mind helping, I don't think Limitless is out of place in trying to get help with this issue on this thread considering the other software appears to be unsupported.. I'm getting in contact privately to see if a line or two of code can sort this out for him.

I had just been saying that I'm never comfortable myself leaving kludges in place, but that this was working for Limitless' combination of template and 3rd party module and that with my time being at such a low these days that I was happy to leave things at that for the minute.

Anyway.. I'll most likely get this sorted quickly and after about 10 module updates I've just about ready to release, I might modify/fix one or two 3rd party unsupported modules as well, to save anyone else this hassle, and to save us having to answer any further posts on them.. better for everyone then! :)

Good night for now!

All the best...

Conor
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Conor, Got your PM.

Much appreciated.

Will follow up shortly.

17 Jan 2012, 2:56 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Limitless:

DV,

Considering your fervent defense in Feb 2010 of the mods in question here: http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpost.php?p=846508&postcount=1182 I erroneously assumed that this mod was working with CEON's URI mod.Apples and oranges.. whole different problem being reported here.. (BTW, fervent is a bit of an overstatement..:smile:) But that said it's probably possible that the current issue with Fual Slimbox is the issue.. Personally I switched over to Zen Lightbox which has more features and is better supported than Fual Slimbox (which was not updated for v1.3.9 compatibility)..

The issue you are having is due to a flaw in Fual Slimbox. (and one I wasn't aware of for the record) But since you pointed out my thread, we're also speaking of a different version of even Conor's mod than when I posted that "fervent defense". Conor's mod has advanced quite a bit in the last year whereas Fual Slimbox has not (no updates since 2008).. Therefore the flaw Conor pointed out 3 years ago still exists.. I don't consider Ceon URI broken simply because it breaks a FLAWED add-on..The flawed add-on is broken because it's flawed..

17 Jan 2012, 11:03 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Hello
is there anyway to switch this mod on and off?
im having problem below and need to check if the mod is an issue.

Thanks

*i want to re-direct to main.html till my sites ready.
main.html contains 'under construction' text

My .htaccess contains text below

DirectoryIndex main.html index.htm index.php

This works in that main.html is what is shown.

The problem im having now is even when i type in my index.php URL
i get re-directed to main.htm.
so i cant see my zencart homepage

if i remove .htaccess, then i (and everyone else) sees my unfinished zencart index page

Help please!
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18 Jan 2012, 1:03 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Cookiepus:

Hello
is there anyway to switch this mod on and off?
im having problem below and need to check if the mod is an issue.

Thanks

*i want to re-direct to main.html till my sites ready.
main.html contains 'under construction' text

My .htaccess contains text below

DirectoryIndex main.html index.htm index.php

This works in that main.html is what is shown.

The problem im having now is even when i type in my index.php URL
i get re-directed to main.htm.
so i cant see my zencart homepage

if i remove .htaccess, then i (and everyone else) sees my unfinished zencart index page

Help please!
Cookie *

Yes there's a way to switch this mod on and off. Look under configuration/Ceon URI Mapping (SEO) and switch off or on.

18 Jan 2012, 9:00 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Hi,

Cookiepus:

The problem im having now is even when i type in my index.php URL
i get re-directed to main.htm.
so i cant see my zencart homepage

This isn't anything to do with Ceon URI Mapping.

You have rule(s) in your .hatccess file which are directing traffic to main.html

You need to fix this rule/these rules.

You should start a new thread about .htaccess rules and redirection.

Sorry I don't have time to help with this external issue here for free, I hope you can get it sorted soon.

All the best..

Conor
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18 Jan 2012, 2:52 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Thanks for your reply Conor
but Ceon URI Mapping does seem to be the issue here.
in that, if i switch it off my problem is fixed.
The .hatccess does what i want it to.
i.e. it serves up main.html by default
but i can still view my index.php buy typing in the full URL

When i switch on Ceon URI Mapping
i get served up main.html, even when i type in index.php as above.

my .hatccess just has text below

DirectoryIndex main.html index.htm index.php

Can i set an exception or something?
Thanks again
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18 Jan 2012, 3:00 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Hi,

Cookiepus:

Thanks for your reply Conor
but Ceon URI Mapping does seem to be the issue here.

Sorry, that's a common mistake people make.. what you are talking about is a correlation, not a causation.

Cookiepus:

Can i set an exception or something?

Yes. But you must do this in the .htaccess file.

Sorry, but I hope you understand that I can't help you with that here.. I'd need access to your server files to see what you've done.. which is outside of the free support I offer for Ceon URI Mapping as it's fixing a server issue not a module conflict issue.

All the best..

Conor
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18 Jan 2012, 7:09 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

My define page. Contact us is going to a product page when the link is clicked?

18 Jan 2012, 9:10 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Hi,

ryanb4614:

My define page. Contact us is going to a product page when the link is clicked?

You must have incorrectly added a mapping manually to the database?

All the best..

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19 Jan 2012, 10:47 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Hi,

Hopefully this is a quicky,

I am seeing issues arise in Google webmaster tools showing duplicate content due to the ?cpath information being added for linked products.

Is there a fix for this?

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20 Jan 2012, 6:28 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Conor,
I have fixed the 1.5.0 admin with Fual Slimbox but not the link compatibility as I was not aware.
All the problems would be in the original tpl_main_products_image.php.

Any assistance from you would be FANTASTIC!
Thanx in advance.
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20 Jan 2012, 9:17 AM
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Hi Paul,

Wilkesy:

Hopefully this is a quicky,

I am seeing issues arise in Google webmaster tools showing duplicate content due to the ?cpath information being added for linked products.

Is there a fix for this?

There is no such issue. Please read the FAQs for more information.

So that's a "quicky" support issue for me then. ;)

If you are still having duplicate content then you have not installed the software properly, missing out on the canonical support.

All the best...

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20 Jan 2012, 9:20 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Hi John,

How are you?

Hope you're well! :)

dbltoe:

I have fixed the 1.5.0 admin with Fual Slimbox but not the link compatibility as I was not aware.
All the problems would be in the original tpl_main_products_image.php.

Any assistance from you would be FANTASTIC!
Thanx in advance.

I don't know what admin issue you are referring to (maybe the admin link issue most modules have with 1.5.0's silly new restrictions?), but yes, I've about 10 module updates due out over the next few days (!) and then I can take a look at this too, I'm sure it'll be easy enough to sort out. :)

All the best..

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@conor
It's been a while since I installed this - just because I haven't need to. Just wanted to say how impressed I was with the work you have done. A lot of nice touches, like the auto-creation of the htaccess file that has the exclusions of other folders built in. Cool. A small donation for a pint or two should be with you.
Very impressed as always