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28 Oct 2013, 1:41 AM
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Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

In instructions file i can see,Dash board, create and manage url, Import old url. But after install ceon uri mapping i did't see anything like that. I want to know. That was paid module or something! how can i get. import old url tab!

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28 Oct 2013, 3:29 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

crixus:

In instructions file i can see,Dash board, create and manage url, Import old url. But after install ceon uri mapping i did't see anything like that. I want to know. That was paid module or something! how can i get. import old url tab!

Thanks
crixus!

The Ceon Mappings Manager is a COMMERCIAL add-on.. You will have to contact JSWebs about that..

This is the support thread for the ABSOLUTELY FREE Ceon URI Mapping add-on available in the free downloads..

28 Oct 2013, 11:31 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

You are confusing two modules.

Ceon's URI mapping is free.

The features you describe are in URI Mapping Manager.

He used to sell the URI Mapping Manager for not a lot of money, and it was worth buying, but that is no longer the case.

After Conor died, the company that took his modules over now charges a great deal more for the module (and it is an annual fee), so it is only really worth it if you are installing to a large existing site. I'm not saying it isn't good value, just that it isn't vital or cheap.

28 Oct 2013, 3:39 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

crixus:

In instructions file i can see,Dash board, create and manage url, Import old url. But after install ceon uri mapping i did't see anything like that. I want to know. That was paid module or something! how can i get. import old url tab!

Thanks
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hairydog:

You are confusing two modules.

Ceon's URI mapping is free.

The features you describe are in URI Mapping Manager.

He used to sell the URI Mapping Manager for not a lot of money, and it was worth buying, but that is no longer the case.

After Conor died, the company that took his modules over now charges a great deal more for the module (and it is an annual fee), so it is only really worth it if you are installing to a large existing site. I'm not saying it isn't good value, just that it isn't vital or cheap.

This is very true indeed they are but this is not the place to discuss anything about Conor's commercial modules. This thread is just about Conor's free module Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

28 Oct 2013, 6:25 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

As a member of "the company that took his modules over" I would just like to make one thing very, very clear; part of the agreement between Conor's family and ourselves was that they would still receive exactly the same amount per installation as Conor would have sold the module for. The additional cost we add is for our time in installing (where requested), ongoing support for the modules (where possible - none of us would dream of claiming to be able to fill Conor's shoes) and the daily management of enquiries going to Conor's old site.

Conor was a personal friend to most of the JSWeb team - please do not try to intimate that we are trying to take advantage of his loss.

28 Oct 2013, 6:54 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

Thanks Guys!

28 Oct 2013, 7:39 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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As a member of "the company that took his modules over" I would just like to make one thing very, very clear; part of the agreement between Conor's family and ourselves was that they would still receive exactly the same amount per installation as Conor would have sold the module for. The additional cost we add is for our time in installing (where requested), ongoing support for the modules (where possible - none of us would dream of claiming to be able to fill Conor's shoes) and the daily management of enquiries going to Conor's old site.

Conor was a personal friend to most of the JSWeb team - please do not try to intimate that we are trying to take advantage of his loss.

And will we see "the company that took his modules over" take a more active role here in this support thread for the free version of the Ceon URI Mapping module??

28 Oct 2013, 11:18 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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And will we see "the company that took his modules over" take a more active role here in this support thread for the free version of the Ceon URI Mapping module??

I believe that would be the correct thing to do. Good question Diva.... :)

28 Oct 2013, 11:20 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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I believe that would be the correct thing to do. Good question Diva.... :)

I'll third that motion.

29 Oct 2013, 12:39 AM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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I believe that would be the correct thing to do. Good question Diva.... :)

picandnix:

I'll third that motion.
I have to ask because since Conor's passing, the die-hard community supporters of this add-on and the very GRACIOUS author of a "competing" module have been the ONLY support here for Ceon URI Mapping.. Conor's modules appear to have gone by the way of the Numinix free modules model (no updates or support here is forthcoming from the authors).. And that's fine.. but at the risk of rocking the boat, it would be nice if the keepers of Conor's legacy modules were to make a somewhat consistent appearance to actually SUPPORT Conor's free legacy modules too (not just this one ALL of them)..

OR

let the community know that no such support will be forthcoming nor should be expected.. After all we merry 4 have been managed to make it work for this add-on..:laugh:

IJS..

29 Oct 2013, 7:55 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

The question gets asked here often about creating URI entries for non product/category/EZ Pages URLs using this add-on.. I used to have a spreadsheet that I used to upload URIs to the mappings table.. Again while this is easy for me to execute, unless one is familiar with using a spreadsheet to upload data to a table, this process admittedly is not for the faint of heart.. (which is why I've never shared it -- I've no time/interest in explaining how to use it -- sorry:no:)

Now Conor provided very good instructions for how to do this. However one must be proficient with PHPMyAdmin to use them.. And I realize that not everyone who uses this module will be comfortable or proficient..

So I am considering putting together a SQL file that seeks to create URI Mapping records for all of the default Zen Cart pages based on method 1 of Conor's instructions.

  • The URI mapping to be mapped from should be entered in the uri field. (Remember to begin the URI with a slash ‘/’).
  • The number representing the language ID this URI mapping applies for should be entered in the language_id field.
  • The current_uri field should be set to “1” to make this the “current” URI.
  • The Zen Cart page to be mapped to should be entered in the main_page field.

(ETA: The value is easy to find. It is what appears in the native URL after "main_page=" so for the Discount Coupon page this is "discount_coupon" which is derived from the URL as follows: "/index.php?main_page=discount_coupon")

  • The date/time this URI mapping was added should be set in the date_added field (or just use the “NOW()” SQL function).
  • The query_string_parameters, associated_db_id and alternate_uri fields are not used, they must be left as “NULL”. The redirection_type_code is not used either so it doesn't matter what value it has (it can just be left at the default value of 301).

The pages the SQL file will create would be based on the page information found here: http://www.zen-cart.com/wiki/index.php/Pages

Now that said if I can find time to put this together, it will ONLY cover the default pages.. Any CUSTOM pages from other modules such as Flexible Returns Authorization, Testimonial Manager, Contest Manager, About Us, etc will NOT be included. I will probably include a "Guest Account" page for users of COWOA since COWOA will be bundled into the upcoming v1.6 release.. However, fear not, the structure should be CLEAR enough for anyone (even a novice) to see how to add additional pages to the URI Mappings table.

Now this said, I would like to see if there is any community interest in this or not.. If not, then I won't put any effort into this at all..

29 Oct 2013, 8:05 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

DivaVocals:

The question gets asked here often about creating URI entries for non product/category/EZ Pages URLs using this add-on.. I used to have a spreadsheet that I used to upload URIs to the mappings table.. Again while this is easy for me to execute, unless one is familiar with using a spreadsheet to upload data to a table, this process admittedly is not for the faint of heart.. (which is why I've never shared it -- I've no time/interest in explaining how to use it -- sorry:no:)

Now Conor provided very good instructions for how to do this. However one must be proficient with PHPMyAdmin to use them.. And I realize that not everyone who uses this module will be comfortable or proficient..

So I am considering putting together a SQL file that seeks to create URI Mapping records for all of the default Zen Cart pages based on method 1 of Conor's instructions.

The pages the SQL file will create would be based on the page information found here: http://www.zen-cart.com/wiki/index.php/Pages

Now that said if I can find time to put this together, it will ONLY cover the default pages.. Any CUSTOM pages from other modules such as Flexible Returns Authorization, Testimonial Manager, Contest Manager, About Us, etc will NOT be included. I will probably include a "Guest Account" page for users of COWOA since COWOA will be bundled into the upcoming v1.6 release.. However, fear not, the structure should be CLEAR enough for anyone (even a novice) to see how to add additional pages to the URI Mappings table.

Now this said, I would like to see if there is any community interest in this or not.. If not, then I won't put any effort into this at all..

Diva sound good to me. Anything is better than nothing at all.:D

29 Oct 2013, 10:00 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

After Finished installation. still i can see.
1.index.php?main_page=about_us
2./index.php?main_page=shippinginfo
3./index.php?main_page=site_map
4.index.php?main_page=gv_faq
5./index.php?main_page=discount_coupon
6./index.php?main_page=conditions

I want to example blew
1.mysite/1.about_us.html
2.mysite/shippinginfo.html

29 Oct 2013, 10:23 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

crixus:

After Finished installation. still i can see.
1.index.php?main_page=about_us
2./index.php?main_page=shippinginfo
3./index.php?main_page=site_map
4.index.php?main_page=gv_faq
5./index.php?main_page=discount_coupon
6./index.php?main_page=conditions

I want to example blew
1.mysite/1.about_us.html
2.mysite/shippinginfo.html

This is related to what Diva Vocals has posted a few posts back. CEON's free uRI rewriter gives the tools to accomplish what you are asking, but requires the installer/operator to perform additional actions. If you are able to follow the general instructions that she posted above, then you should be able to get your desired end result.

29 Oct 2013, 10:27 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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This is related to what Diva Vocals has posted a few posts back. CEON's free uRI rewriter gives the tools to accomplish what you are asking, but requires the installer/operator to perform additional actions. If you are able to follow the general instructions that she posted above, then you should be able to get your desired end result.

and ONE MORE REASON why it pays to read through the support thread BEFORE posting a question as is suggested in the posting tips..

That last tip includes using the thread tools to search THIS thread.. This particular topic and the answer is not only covered in my post from today but in MANY other posts in this support thread (something I elude to in my post..)

Also the readme that comes with this add-on is one of the BEST WRITTEN ones available, and this particular topic is covered in DETAIL in the Ceon URI Mapping readme (which I also quote in my earlier post)..

29 Oct 2013, 10:46 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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The question gets asked here often about creating URI entries for non product/category/EZ Pages URLs using this add-on.. I used to have a spreadsheet that I used to upload URIs to the mappings table.. Again while this is easy for me to execute, unless one is familiar with using a spreadsheet to upload data to a table, this process admittedly is not for the faint of heart.. (which is why I've never shared it -- I've no time/interest in explaining how to use it -- sorry:no:)

Now Conor provided very good instructions for how to do this. However one must be proficient with PHPMyAdmin to use them.. And I realize that not everyone who uses this module will be comfortable or proficient..

So I am considering putting together a SQL file that seeks to create URI Mapping records for all of the default Zen Cart pages based on method 1 of Conor's instructions.

The pages the SQL file will create would be based on the page information found here: http://www.zen-cart.com/wiki/index.php/Pages

Now that said if I can find time to put this together, it will ONLY cover the default pages.. Any CUSTOM pages from other modules such as Flexible Returns Authorization, Testimonial Manager, Contest Manager, About Us, etc will NOT be included. I will probably include a "Guest Account" page for users of COWOA since COWOA will be bundled into the upcoming v1.6 release.. However, fear not, the structure should be CLEAR enough for anyone (even a novice) to see how to add additional pages to the URI Mappings table.

Now this said, I would like to see if there is any community interest in this or not.. If not, then I won't put any effort into this at all..

Geez, Diva, you're genius. I know that recently I advocated another Zenner to use this produuct, and then was also asked about how to setup the pages like described.

I have worked a little with an easy populate plugin and could incorporate the structure and actions of it into at least that version. Hadn't even thought of incorporating it until your comment. I've been doing it the "hard way" when adding a new address and have rarely needed to do that..

29 Oct 2013, 10:58 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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Geez, Diva, you're genius. I know that recently I advocated another Zenner to use this produuct, and then was also asked about how to setup the pages like described.

I have worked a little with an easy populate plugin and could incorporate the structure and actions of it into at least that version. Hadn't even thought of incorporating it until your comment. I've been doing it the "hard way" when adding a new address and have rarely needed to do that..

Genius.. :laugh: Who me??? nah! I just play one on TV! :laugh:

Goodness if you could work out a way to help EZ Populate users who are using this add-on too that would be OUTSTANDING!!! One of the "achilles heels" of this add-on on is that EZ Populate users have to manually edit products/categories ADDED or MODIFIED via EZ Populate in order to get the URI Mapping table populated/updated..

Now if on TOP OF THAT, you could come up with a way to use EZ Populate to update the Ceon URI Mapping table, you could expand it to do more than just add the default pages. In theory you COULD come up with a means to allow shopowners to use EZ Populate for the initial population of the product, category, and EZ Pages URIs when one first installs this add-on on an existing store. This would be miles easier than having to manually update every product/category/EZ Page on the site..

29 Oct 2013, 11:06 PM
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Re: Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

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This would be miles easier than having to manually update every product/category/EZ Page on the site..

And circumnavigate a rather (now, yet not previously) expensive commercial add-on that currently does it.

30 Oct 2013, 12:00 AM
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And circumnavigate a rather (now, yet not previously) expensive commercial add-on that currently does it.

Which, in part is why I hadn't put something like it out there yet. I don't know if it is something like a programmer's respect or if it is that I don't want to be responsible for the loss of another's income (although I might be talked into it. :P), but I was considering providing the ability to interface with the applicable table(s), leaving any automation or other mixing and matching to the user. This is much like how the version of EP that I have come to like is setup. It seems to have all that is needed in it, but is not necessariily sequenced/documented for all things.

To incorporate in another version, I'd have to learn and tinker a bit. :P

30 Oct 2013, 1:08 AM
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Which, in part is why I hadn't put something like it out there yet. I don't know if it is something like a programmer's respect or if it is that I don't want to be responsible for the loss of another's income (although I might be talked into it. :P), but I was considering providing the ability to interface with the applicable table(s), leaving any automation or other mixing and matching to the user. This is much like how the version of EP that I have come to like is setup. It seems to have all that is needed in it, but is not necessariily sequenced/documented for all things.

To incorporate in another version, I'd have to learn and tinker a bit. :P

Honestly that's very nice that you feel this way, but not necessary since this add-on is a FREE module.. And since the original developer is no longer with us, and the free module is now largely supported by the community, I say it's more than okay to submit any helper add-ons we (as the community who are continuing to support this add-on) see fit to submit.. What you proposed could certainly end up being a lot more robust than my simple SQL script which only closes ONE gap. What you propose with EP could close ALL the gaps.. But let me make sure that I understand if this is what you are proposing:

Using either EP or a variant of EP

  • Initial population of category/product/EZ Pages URI Mappings
  • Initial population of default/other pages URI Mappings
  • Updates to URI Mappings when changes to category/product/EZ Pages are needed
  • Updates/Additions to URI Mappings when changes/additions to default/other pages are needed

Because if this is what you are suggesting, this would be FANTASTIC and a much WELCOME add-on to the Zen Cart community!!:smile: