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24 Nov 2011, 1:30 PM
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How To Setup Shipping?

Hey, i have a store at http://www.horrorwarehouse.com and am abit confused with what shipping i should go with.

Should i go flat rate, per weight etc. Seems zen cart only allows you to setup one for a certain zone, can you use flat rate for 2 different zones as obviously UK postage is going to be different than say Germany or China, US etc?

Any help as how to get started is appreciated.

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24 Nov 2011, 5:11 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

The main thing about shipping is to FIRST establish WHO you are going to use to do all your shipping. This can be one organisation, or several organisations, and may include private courier services, and/or the postal services (such as Royal Mail).

Once you have selected your shipper, you need to get your head around HOW they charge, and HOW they calculate these charges. So, a comprehensive RATE CARD should be obtained from them.

In the case of Royal Mail... things get a little more complicated, because RM has almost 3,000 different parameters for posting stuff around the world. There are different rates for different countries, and of course a huge array of services (signed-for, large-letter, first class, second class, insured, small packet, large packet, next day, economy... the list is almost endless).

In any event, you need to make a choice about WHO you will use, and get a good understanding of how their services are configured.

NEXT, you need to look at how you can incorporate these configurations into zencart, and again, different modules provide different parameters.

If you are UK-based, and want to use RM / ParcelForce, then your zencart site should be properly configured for UK use. Standard ZC is configured "generically", so you will see that things like date formatting is in the USA style of mm/dd/yyyy and that spellings are USA (color vs colour, check vs cheque) and that weight parameters are LBS and not KG. Also, there are no UK Counties loaded in a standard install, and as many RM services are based on UK locality, your website needs to have these configurations built BEFORE you apply a shipping module.

Getting your shipping accurate is critical for TWO reasons:

  1. Too cheap, and you will fund the difference out of your bottom-line profits.
  2. Too expensive, and people will abandon your site and go elsewhere.

Once you KNOW exactly who you wish to use for your shipping, and WHERE in the world you are prepared to sell to (or deliver to), come back and tell us and we can make some more pointed suggestions.

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24 Nov 2011, 5:40 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

That was a well thought out post many thanks for taking the time.

I should have gave more information.

Firstly i will be using a mixture of royal mail and courier for both UK and foreign shipping orders.

I am not going to bother with first class or any untracked shipping due to the value of the items being sold so recorded first class will be the minimum i will offer. Maybe possibly special delivery also.

I am thinking that in which case it may be wise to calculate via weight?. I need to find out how to change zencart from Lbs to Kg as i have entered the correct weights of all my products so far such as 0.500 meaning half a kilo/500 grams.

Also, there are no UK Counties loaded in a standard install, and as many RM services are based on UK locality, your website needs to have these configurations built BEFORE you apply a shipping module.

I never knew about this, many thanks, where can i find how to rectify this?

Cheers again appreciate the help greatly.

26 Nov 2011, 10:11 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

Also, there are no UK Counties loaded in a standard install, and as many RM services are based on UK locality, your website needs to have these configurations built BEFORE you apply a shipping module.

horrorware:

I never knew about this, many thanks, where can i find how to rectify this?

You can try Jamie's (JSWEB) script:

http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=product_contrib_info&products_id=299

28 Nov 2011, 3:12 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

horrorware:

Im not sure whether to go with a flat rate or per weight.

What does everyone think?

Any help appreciated as always.

Did you read my post #2 ?

Your decision is based on WHO will do your shipping and HOW they calculate their rates.

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28 Nov 2011, 6:29 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

schoolboy:

Did you read my post #2 ?

Your decision is based on WHO will do your shipping and HOW they calculate their rates.

I did indeed and posted a reply above saying how helpful it was and who would be doing the majority of my shipping.

Which brings me back to whether i should price it at a flat rate or per weight?

I went into shipping per weight briefly but it doesn't show you anywhere to enter the prices per weight.

Cheers again

28 Nov 2011, 6:39 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

This is quite difficult to get my head around as it seems flat rate only lets you offer one value which isn't going to work as any order outside of UK would be severely under-valued and thus loss.

Shipping by weight seems it is going to be the way to go but i can't see anywhere that lets you enter the value for each product.

28 Nov 2011, 8:07 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

You need the zonetables module. Trust me... if you are shipping to multiple ZONES, where different rates apply based on consignment weight, then go grab:

http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=product_contrib_info&cPath=40_51&products_id=695

NOTE: You MUST ste up all your ZONES and ZONE DEFINITIONS first... Then install this module.

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28 Nov 2011, 9:11 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

Thanks again much appreciated:).

I take it the ste was a spell error in your last line and that should have read set instead in which case i should make sure i have set up my zones and zone definitions?

Different rates are we talking about the tax rate here or the shipping weight price?

This is going to be difficult i feel lol.

Cheers again, i really appreciate the time you and others take to help.

29 Nov 2011, 9:10 AM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

Go grab a copy of the USER MANUAL.

Goh Koon Hoek explains the procedure for setting up zones and zone definitions.

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29 Nov 2011, 11:08 AM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

Thanks for the link:).

I think i am going to need to take this step by step as i don't even know where to start.

First i will add the mod of jamies counties linked a few pages back so i can get that done.

Then see about setting up the zones. I have already setup the UK/EU zones and made the tax rate for them. So would that only leave the countries outside the EU and create another class with 0.00% tax/vat?

Cheers again

29 Nov 2011, 11:31 AM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

I forgot i need to change lbs into kilograms/grams also is there a mod for this or ?

29 Nov 2011, 1:13 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

Trying to install jamies county mod but even that is proving to be a nightmare half the files such as configure.php that it wants me to make writeable don't even exist.

29 Nov 2011, 1:19 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

Im not sure what the jamies county mod was all about i followed the install steps and it seems to be trying to install zencart rather than a county mod.

Really wish zencart was abit more user friendly, these things should be built in. Shipping seems like its going to be a nightmare to set up.

Im glad i backed up as i think i have just ruined my site with installing the above, even though i used database upgrade. Now i can't get into the admin area even though i have deleted zc_install as it asked. Ahhhh.

29 Nov 2011, 1:24 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

Right think i will just pay someone to set up the shipping as im going to end up ruining the site.

Any idea where i can find a good web developer who is priced fairly and knows what he is doing?

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4 Dec 2011, 8:40 PM
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Re: How To Setup Shipping?

So now im back to square one as i was going to price the postage on weight with my site, but the size of package is what counts more ive found when it comes to increased prices. 1kg 30cm 30cm 30cm is still the same price when you put 5kg, but if you increase the size by 10cm all round then you are looking at £4 more postage, so i would lose out if i priced my site by weight.

Any ideas how i should progress with planning postage/shipping prices for my site. I had the below so far, but i don't reckon that will work now as what i wrote above.

Postage Prices
United Kingdom
Up to 1kg : Use Recorded First Class - £3.95 inc VAT
1kg Plus : Use Courier Shipping - £6.99 inc VAT
Although i want both options to be available for the small orders, obviously anything over 1kg would be too heavy and only have courier shipping as option. Special Delivery as below will be an option at all weights.
For All UK Option: Royal Mail Special Delivery: £6.95 inc VAT. On Fridays: £7.95 inc VAT.

EU
Up to 250g: Use Royal Mail International Signed For -
Up to 500g: Use Royal Mail International Signed For -
Up to 750g: Use Royal Mail International Signed For -
Up to 1kg: Use Royal Mail International Signed For -
Over 1Kg: Use Courier Shipping - £17.95(but doesnt work if you increase size of package then it would be £22.49 inc vat.????????

United States
Up to 250g: Use Royal Mail International Signed For -
Up to 500g: Use Royal Mail International Signed For -
Up to 750g: Use Royal Mail International Signed For -
Up to 1kg: Use Royal Mail International Signed For -
Over 1kg: Use Courier Shipping -

Canada,

China,

Japan

Thailand, Asia, Brazil etc