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5 Jul 2016, 10:13 AM
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EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

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Sorry, those it means that EP4 will be discontinued ?

Even though this new plugin has not adopted the EasyPopulate name, it still accomplishes the same thing and even touts that it is based on the EasyPopulate wiki "guidelines". The additional "features" it adds are available and we're planned on being incorporated into this. All that said, unless there is a valid business reason for the software that is EP4 to remain further updated, it is my consideration for the community for there to be less variants in existence and that all features and operations be consolidated (one goal of some of the changes that have been made to EP4 to allow other such variants to be sunset). Like other plugins of ZC, it will or should remain available, but is less likely to be modified to suit other needs that can be met with the recently released EP variant that is not called EP (personal decision of the creator).

5 Jul 2016, 10:13 AM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

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If I remember well, looking at the file yesterday, the music related stuff it's also like this... and I think that's the only places that use this: manufacturers, and the music product type.

There are four locations which require such modification and they will all be made as a single modification/patch.

5 Jul 2016, 11:02 AM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

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Even though this new plugin has not adopted the EasyPopulate name, it still accomplishes the same thing and even touts that it is based on the EasyPopulate wiki "guidelines". The additional "features" it adds are available and we're planned on being incorporated into this. All that said, unless there is a valid business reason for the software that is EP4 to remain further updated, it is my consideration for the community for there to be less variants in existence and that all features and operations be consolidated (one goal of some of the changes that have been made to EP4 to allow other such variants to be sunset). Like other plugins of ZC, it will or should remain available, but is less likely to be modified to suit other needs that can be met with the recently released EP variant that is not called EP (personal decision of the creator).

Oh well , got to see that for curiosity, but for me the EP4 plus the books thing, it's fine.
Anyway, with this 2 plugins doing more or less the same thing, I want to public thank you for the work you implemented on EP4.
I think most people don't realize the amount of work it's involved for then to just upload a file, click and have a shop running. And for free.
So, yep, thanks.

5 Jul 2016, 2:59 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Thank you mesnitu,

There are those that have paid to obtain desired functionality and allowed that operation to be incorporated for all to use and there have been conversations that have been had that identified ways that this could be made ever more versatile. Yes, there is or can be a lot that goes into making such a useful tool.‎ As is the case with almost everything ZC, a business need generally births a business solution. Chadder saw this in his line of work and developed EP4 building off of those that collaborated before him and with him.##

I came across this software when trying to find a way to populate the store of a non-profit organization with a list of items provided to me using a spreadsheet. Later, after working with potteryhouse/jeking on Stock By Attributes, having a discussion with someone about the real world difficulty with performing an inventory of attributable stock, and trying to address the lack of attributable stock seen with ZC upon my first install of ZC back in 2011, I incorporated an SBA interface. In parallel and with a great deal of consternation I developed an intermediate plugin that would use the free existing CEON URI rewriter to auto-generate URIs through the use of EP4. I plan to continue to support these two additional features in my own way and to build them off of the new plugin (now available btw).##

Long and short of it, it's unfortunate that outside of this community (and inside of it by some) that ZC is no longer in the top pick of advertised eCommerce sites. The important thing for anyone reading is to take the time to post about an issue, to request a change (preferred over demanding one as so many seem to be doing these days), explain the why, etc... Mesnitu you did this in discussion of bookx and while you did the grunt work, a way to merge the functionality of it with EP4 was found and made. The same is true for the new software that it will be able to incorporate the features of the bookx plugin as well as the operations recently inquired about. ##

There are many that have left ZC to come back because of the difficulty experienced, lack of functionality, etc... with other product. The core developers have made a number of changes for the current (and future) version to try to give ZC a face-lift (a significant reason that "reviewers" suggest other such applications) and continue to incorporate new features, but it is through community input either by those that need something or those that have a vision that improvements can be made. The code issue identified above has existed since January 3rd, 2015 with the issue of version 4.0.28 when the zen_record_admin_activity function was first incorporated into EP4 to expand functionality to operate under ZC 1.5.4+. I would like to think that if someone had identified this earlier that it would have been commented on, discussed, or corrected for others to benefit and perhaps I did receive a side comment about it which got locally corrected and thought to have been applied for all. I'll provide my thoughts on correcting the condition in a separate post.

6 Jul 2016, 6:08 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Has anyone had any success with DUAL Pricing v2 with EP4.0.35.ZC and ZC 1.5.5a. I have added to my_admin\includes\languages\english.php:

define('EASYPOPULATE_CONFIG_CUSTOM_FIELDS', 'products_price_w'); //Easy Populate, as indicated in the instructions but have not had any success with import and exporting with EP4.

EP4 page in ZC indicates on the right of the screen under Custom Products Fields: Dual Pricing Mod: TRUE.

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6 Jul 2016, 6:23 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

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Has anyone had any success with DUAL Pricing v2 with EP4.0.35.ZC and ZC 1.5.5a. I have added to my_admin\includes\languages\english.php:

define('EASYPOPULATE_CONFIG_CUSTOM_FIELDS', 'products_price_w'); //Easy Populate, as indicated in the instructions but have not had any success with import and exporting with EP4.

EP4 page in ZC indicates on the right of the screen under Custom Products Fields: Dual Pricing Mod: TRUE.

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The EP4 instructions do not reference the specific constant (which if attempted above is incorrect) but instead the configuration screen area where custom fields can be entered (and not require a permanent override as attempted above). The same text of products_price_w could/would be used there to export/import. But be advised that there are a few issues with the current version of EP4 as documented over the last couple of pages.

6 Jul 2016, 6:36 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

The dual pricings mod referenced on the right side refers to options_values_price_w as found in the products_attributes table.

6 Jul 2016, 7:25 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Thank you for your prompt reply but obviously I am in over my head here and am not clear with your response. More detailed instructions would be greatly appreciated that is of course that the dual price mod will work with the current version of EP4.

6 Jul 2016, 7:58 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

No problem. If the products_price_w field is in fact in the products table (appears like it should be based on the name), then with EP4 installed, goto configuration->Easy Populate then locate the the listing for User identified fields. In the right side of the screen, add products_price_w and update the field.

Now where products are exported (mainly the full export) the field will appear, and will also be "read" for import.

The caveat to this method is that anyone having admin access to those settings could modify the list of additional fields to import/export to/from the products table.

7 Jul 2016, 8:00 AM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Easy Populate 4.0.35.ZC - 04-29-2016
Zen Cart 1.5.5a
Database Patch Level: 1.5.5
v1.5.5a [2015-01-01 05:44:52] (New Installation-v155a)
v1.5.5a [2015-01-01 05:44:52] (New Installation-v155a)

Im can not get my attributes to show on my products.
uploaded Complete products OK
uploaded Basic products attributes OK and showing in attributes conntrol
when i upload the detailed product attributes vie the Browes button i get File uploaded successfully:
But the attributes dont show on product.
if i upload via the import button i get File Import Completed with issues. & SKIPPED! - Attribute Entry on : - Not Found!

please help.

7 Jul 2016, 10:00 AM
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Easy Populate 4.0.35.ZC - 04-29-2016
Zen Cart 1.5.5a
Database Patch Level: 1.5.5
v1.5.5a [2015-01-01 05:44:52] (New Installation-v155a)
v1.5.5a [2015-01-01 05:44:52] (New Installation-v155a)

Im can not get my attributes to show on my products.
uploaded Complete products OK
uploaded Basic products attributes OK and showing in attributes conntrol
when i upload the detailed product attributes vie the Browes button i get File uploaded successfully:
But the attributes dont show on product.
if i upload via the import button i get File Import Completed with issues. & SKIPPED! - Attribute Entry on : - Not Found!

please help.

First, hopefully you have applied the various patches/modifications identified over the last 7ish pages (a lot of other conversations intermixed).

Secondly, upload places the files on the server. Import is what tries to push the product to the database.

In a default install, product_model is the primary key used to match the import record to the product. If the selected primary key is not found in the import file for the specific row, then the row is not imported unless the selected primary key option supports that type of import.

More to follow in a moment.

7 Jul 2016, 10:58 AM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Sorry, had to reread the post to be sure that I was going to provide information that would help, but didn't want to delay you getting started with the above.

So after upload of the products file (file to appear in the section regarding full uploads), that file needs to be imported if it adds or modifies products. Provided a row has a matching primary key in it (settings of primary key are in the configuration menu for EP4), then the row will be imported.

Then once a product is present in the database with the desired primary key, the attributes basic file can be imported.

Import of the detailed attributes can then be performed after that. Again the primary key is important.

7 Jul 2016, 12:44 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Thank you so much. Worked like a charm.

7 Jul 2016, 1:02 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

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Thank you so much. Worked like a charm.

No problem, glad that helped. EP4 was designed with the intention of not "interfering" with any other EP variant, so the constant that was attempted was not picked up because it was for a different variant. For what it's worth and as it appears that you have just started using ZC, I might suggest transitioning to a newer application that reportedly performs the same actions as this code. Reason being is that at least I don't intend on continuing to modify this plugin to address anything other than errors within its described/intended use/operation and to cause two different variants of the same application to exist. This one tends to be "easier" to modify, but perhaps is not as informative (requires reading and understanding the instructions) while the other is easier to use as a store owner, but more intricate for making changes.

I had plans to take this to a more robust state, but have other things to which I can devote my time/interest because that effort has been done independent of EP4.

7 Jul 2016, 4:43 PM
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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Im now getting
File Import Completed.
An SQL error has occured. Please check your input data for tabs within fields and delete these. If this error continues, please forward your error log to the Easy Populate maintainer.

and multiple variants of the same attribues
19 10.8cm x 10.8cm Tiles 12 Tile Mural Size: 43.2cm x 32.4cm
20 10.8cm x 10.8cm Tiles 6 Tile Mural 45.6cm x 30.4cm
20 10.8cm x 10.8cm Tiles 6 Tile Mural 45.6cm x 30.4cm
20 10.8cm x 10.8cm Tiles 6 Tile Mural 45.6cm x 30.4cm

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Tile Mural Store UK:

Im now getting
File Import Completed.
An SQL error has occured. Please check your input data for tabs within fields and delete these. If this error continues, please forward your error log to the Easy Populate maintainer.

and multiple variants of the same attribues
19 10.8cm x 10.8cm Tiles 12 Tile Mural Size: 43.2cm x 32.4cm
20 10.8cm x 10.8cm Tiles 6 Tile Mural 45.6cm x 30.4cm
20 10.8cm x 10.8cm Tiles 6 Tile Mural 45.6cm x 30.4cm
20 10.8cm x 10.8cm Tiles 6 Tile Mural 45.6cm x 30.4cm

Where are the multiple variants being displayed/presented?

What is the format of the import file? Is it comma separated for all of the data? (ie used Open Office as suggested in the early post(s) of this thread?) what was the filename? Complete content of the first couple of lines (obscure any specific business sensitive information if there is any and identify that it was obscured).

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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Just an update. The problem I had was - as you suggested - to do with configuration errors elsewhere on the server and not with Easy Populate 4.0. Principally it had to do with PHP with which I had missed a final step of linking libraries when I reinstalled it. The circuitous route to realizing that led me to discover and fix other things which were not quite right on the server. So, though it was a frustrating experience, I finally managed to upload a csv of over a thousand entries with Easy Populate 4.0. Thank you for your work on this program and for your advice.

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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

Just an update. The problem I had was - as you suggested - to do with configuration errors elsewhere on the server and not with Easy Populate 4.0. Principally it had to do with PHP with which I had missed a final step of linking libraries when I reinstalled it. The circuitous route to realizing that led me to discover and fix other things which were not quite right on the server. So, though it was a frustrating experience, I finally managed to upload a csv of over a thousand entries with Easy Populate 4.0. Thank you for your work on this program and for your advice.

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Typical permissions upon install are 644 for the admin/includes/configure.php file, with suggestion to set to 444 to prevent writing/rewriting. EP4 doesn't modify this file and is only pulled for use by including application_top.php which loads the admin configure.php file. Perhaps something is amiss with the file? But this also further doesn't exactly make sense if this plugin is the only admin tool that is causing this issue. :/

One of the suggestions I came across was to tie to the parent process that appears to be causing the issue and as part of that tie to include a back trace logged error to identify where in execution the error is truly occurring. :/

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Re: EasyPopulate 4.0 Support Thread

I may have worked a way around my problem and stopped the multiple variants of the same attribues.
i was using open office. make attribues and delete the old ones and upload, save as Attrib-Basic_EP using edit filter setting. long winded but work a couple of times now. May have to learn to back up every time i upload.

8 Jul 2016, 9:26 AM
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I may have worked a way around my problem and stopped the multiple variants of the same attribues.
i was using open office. make attribues and delete the old ones and upload, save as Attrib-Basic_EP using edit filter setting. long winded but work a couple of times now. May have to learn to back up every time i upload.

Ummm. Thing is the attribute basic filter for import will not process if the file is named with the underscore just before EP... instead the file will be treated as a full upload. As said before there is a patch to be applied for attribute importing that may apply to your issue otherwise.