Moving to godaddy ...

Hi there,

It's been a while since I have installed ZC from scratch, my first time at the new 1.5 version.

I am moving a site to go daddy, I want to set up the site prior to resetting the name servers to their servers. Is this problematic with godaddy? Or should I do the domain move first?

Also, any problems installing the SSL cert AFTER setting up ZC?

The store is live and I don't want to move it until it is absolutely necessary.

Thanks.

First, WHY are you moving TO godaddy hosting?

That is a move you'll probably seriously regret.

Why?

I know I know it was cheap. But I sat up a site there a few months ago it works fine, never did a zc there...

What kinds of problems do they have there? I have heard of a few other zc sites there...

A forum search will show you tons of examples of very slow server performance, with the solution being moving to a reliable hosting service.

eCommerce relies on appropriate server settings and the installation of proper server software if it is to run reliably and efficiently - and safely.

Unfortunately, many "cheap" hosts do not install proper server systems (to keep costs and maintenance low), and also tend to "stuff" as many sites as possible onto individual servers - stretching server resources to capacity, and often beyond that.

GoDaddy is such a host. If you are setting up a website that showcases your latest holiday pictures, then fine... GoDaddy might be OK... but they are not OK for anything more sophisticated than that.

The problems you will experience will be many, and varied... starting with a site that runs very slowly, is very prone to hacker attacks, is restricted in terms of extensibility, and which is ublikely to get very professional support when things go wrong.

It is therefore prudent and wise to host sophisticated sites with hosting companies that spend the money on setting up servers to cope with the demands of such sophistication.

In fact, you owe it to your (prospective) customers to offer a site that is fast, efficient, reliable and secure... You won't get that with cheap hosts.

OK well he is signed up for three months so if we have any problems will definitely move it. I was in a pinch and needed to move off the old server ASAP which is nearing the end of its life cycle.

In the mean time, any problems installing ZC 1.5 prior re pointing the name server from the old server to the new site location? In other words just access via IP address?

You can install it using the dedicated IP address.

schoolboy:

eCommerce relies on appropriate server settings and the installation of proper server software if it is to run reliably and efficiently - and safely.

Unfortunately, many "cheap" hosts do not install proper server systems (to keep costs and maintenance low), and also tend to "stuff" as many sites as possible onto individual servers - stretching server resources to capacity, and often beyond that.

GoDaddy is such a host. If you are setting up a website that showcases your latest holiday pictures, then fine... GoDaddy might be OK... but they are not OK for anything more sophisticated than that.

The problems you will experience will be many, and varied... starting with a site that runs very slowly, is very prone to hacker attacks, is restricted in terms of extensibility, and which is ublikely to get very professional support when things go wrong.

It is therefore prudent and wise to host sophisticated sites with hosting companies that spend the money on setting up servers to cope with the demands of such sophistication.

In fact, you owe it to your (prospective) customers to offer a site that is fast, efficient, reliable and secure... You won't get that with cheap hosts.

I beg to differ I've just moved back to justhost as I got sick and tired of my pervious host leting me down and they cost me 4 time what I'm paying now and justhost have been great even installing my own ssl cert free. Then again maybe I've been lucky

I'm currently using Justhost for my own sites and have sent several clients to them. Until recently, I would have agreed with you. They were excellent. They will now no longer be getting my business because they have refused to correct a PCI compliance issue on their servers. Specifically, they have port 3306 open to remote connections by default. I'm moving my eCommerce sites to another host.

It's difficult to determine what host is a good host, even going by reviews. Price alone isn't reliable as they may still try to cram as many customers on as possible plus give mediocre support.

discoverytdi:

I beg to differ I've just moved back to justhost as I got sick and tired of my pervious host leting me down and they cost me 4 time what I'm paying now and justhost have been great even installing my own ssl cert free. Then again maybe I've been lucky

Just looked at justhost. Is that serious: $3.75 a month (promo) and can run an ecommerce store?

nadsab:

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I am moving a site to go daddy, I want to set up the site prior to resetting the name servers to their servers. .........

Crikey!!!! godaddy??? :oops:

two things from my end:

• buy cheap - get cheap!
• asking for trouble? - you got it!

Do some serious research and take your time to make a decision.

Just my 2 cents ..

For over a year now, we have decided to ONLY USE HOSTS THAT UNDERSTAND ECOMMERCE, and who have a good knowledge of zencart.

In the UK, we ONLY use a Norwich-based host, whose owner is one of the original developers of OsCommerce, and who knows ZC inside-out.

In the Americas we ONLY use a Pennsylvania-based host, whose knowledge of ZC is extensive.

Both are REGULAR contributors to this forum.

Their hosting fees and charges are only MARGINALLY higher than the "popular" hosts, but their service and backup - and knowledge of ZC - is incalcuably more valuable.

schoolboy:

For over a year now, we have decided to ONLY USE HOSTS THAT UNDERSTAND ECOMMERCE, and who have a good knowledge of zencart........

schoolboy hit the nail right on its head:yes:: look for a host that understands ecommerce, especially Zen Cart in this instance.

Just looked at justhost. Is that serious: $3.75 a month (promo) and can run an ecommerce store?

Until recently, they were excellent. They literally bent over backwards for me making server changes I needed for my eCommerce sites. Something changed. My hunch is that they got swallowed up by somebody. Oh well, it isn't like this is the first time I've been through this over the years.

It's difficult to determine what host is a good host, even going by reviews.

Very true. Most of the reviews out there are phoney as a three dollar bill and posted by affiliates. Interesting thing is that the host I'm now switching to, (who costs a little more), has few reviews. All of theirs seem legit, though.

schoolboy:

eCommerce relies on appropriate server settings and the installation of proper server software if it is to run reliably and efficiently - and safely.

Unfortunately, many "cheap" hosts do not install proper server systems (to keep costs and maintenance low), and also tend to "stuff" as many sites as possible onto individual servers - stretching server resources to capacity, and often beyond that.

GoDaddy is such a host. If you are setting up a website that showcases your latest holiday pictures, then fine... GoDaddy might be OK... but they are not OK for anything more sophisticated than that.

The problems you will experience will be many, and varied... starting with a site that runs very slowly, is very prone to hacker attacks, is restricted in terms of extensibility, and which is ublikely to get very professional support when things go wrong.

It is therefore prudent and wise to host sophisticated sites with hosting companies that spend the money on setting up servers to cope with the demands of such sophistication.

In fact, you owe it to your (prospective) customers to offer a site that is fast, efficient, reliable and secure... You won't get that with cheap hosts.

Utter disagrement with the above post....its hogwash from my experiance and some of the claims are silly, like not being secure and only good for pictures... baseless comments.

I started a business on GoDaddy a year and a half ago with an idea... I was able to set it up and have it running in two DAYs with respectable results for an utter newbie... I have NEVER had slow service though my commerce site is relatively small and specializes in one type of product... Every time I have called about how to do something they answer within minutes..and explain it very clearly and walk me though every aspect.

My website is antigravitybatteries.com.

I use the hosting by Godaddy and I did my site using Wordpress and use their Quick Shopping Cart which is ugly but does what it is supposed to do perfectly fine and is quick enough loading though I am going to go with Zen Cart which is why I'm here....

I find the post above silly because a simple no nothing like myself went to GoDaddy.. started a ecommerce business that was up and running in 2 days, did almost 200k in sales through that Quick Shopping Cart in the first year... never heard about slow loading, was able to get excellent customer service has SSl certification etc......
I have had nothing but great service and decent loading pages.. Yet we have a guy with 5000 posts claiming it isn't sufficient for an ecommerce site...Maybe he is talking about a large scale ecommerce site.. but 90% of ecommerce is small in case you didn't realize...

My point is that someone came on here saying they wanted to put the Zen Cart on GoDaddy and people started blasting GoDaddy without saying they ever actually used it... and I'm saying I use it now, you can see my site... you can see how it performs for a website and basic store using GoDaddy...and those are truths. I have a big initial sliding banner the is pretty intensive and it still load fast enough for customers...

Sure it may not work for all but is you have a basic ecommerce site it works awesome and they are very quick to help. Take what the opinion filled "Pros" say with a grain of salt. Much of the time they are not really speaking from first hand knowledge and use of a certain product, but rather from dated opinions based on reading some threads.