CEON advanced shipping module - questions

I use CEON advanced shipping module and encounter a problem with it. I am looking for another (super)user who knows how to work with the parameters.

My problem is the following:
I configured categories. If item is category A, shipping is $5 and if item is category B shipping is $10. That works fine untill I put both an item for category A & B in my cart. Then he adds the two up and gives a $15 shipping cost, but I want it to be the max of the highest fee, so $10.

How can I do that?

So are there any recommended shipping modules similar to Ceon Advanced Shipper as we are having tax rate issues.

We got the latest update from Conor last fall, but did not upgrade ZC 1.5 until January and the only thing not working is the module is not applying State Sales Tax.

Any thoughts on a Shipping AND Tax Rate plugin to replace Ceon that has developer support?

Any thoughts on a Shipping AND Tax Rate plugin to replace Ceon that has developer support?
There is nothing that comes even close to the flexibility of Advanced Shipper and unless it gets bought and integrated into the core (to avoid such a masterwork becoming "lost" and as a tribute to its developer who contributed hugely to this forum) now its developer is no longer with us, I doubt there ever will be.

I don't use the categories option but the code is well-written, a decent developer should be able to figure out whats happening and modify it.

just did some tests and read the readme file and looks like your right, howveer I would agree with the above its by far the most versitile software.

this is what it says about the product/category allocation of shipping rates:
"By selecting a product/category/manufacturer as having this method apply to it, that product/category will only be able to be shipped by this method, unless the product/category/manufacturer is also specifically selected for other method(s) as well."

Perhaps try different rates based on weight/price - this way you can control it better

Wonka:

I use CEON advanced shipping module and encounter a problem with it. I am looking for another (super)user who knows how to work with the parameters.

My problem is the following:
I configured categories. If item is category A, shipping is $5 and if item is category B shipping is $10. That works fine untill I put both an item for category A & B in my cart. Then he adds the two up and gives a $15 shipping cost, but I want it to be the max of the highest fee, so $10.

How can I do that?

think I have a work around, looks like you need to have a fall back method. so which ever is the cheaper methos, also apply the more expensive method as an option to it.

this way when you have a mix of the two it allows the more expensive option to be used on its own and is the only option show.

if they just have the item with the cheaper method it will show the more expensive optiona along side the cheaper method.

I have the Ceon advanced shipper mod version 5.0.2 on my shop running 1.5.0 in canada, can't seem to figure how to set shipping regions for different provinces

Though Ceon has passed, JSweb is continuing on with support for this product. You might get a quicker response at http://www.zen-cart.com/showthread.php?206541-Ceon-Advanced-Shipper-Trouble

I've just started using the Better Together mod which gives a discount if 2 items are purchased together, and am wondering if it is possible to configure Advanced Shipper to take the discount in to consideration when calculating shipping costs?

For example, if I offer free shipping when the customer spends over £150, and they add 2 items to the cart that total £160 BUT there is a better together discount on those items of £20 so the total is actually £140, I would expect the customer to still have to pay a delivery charge.
Unfortunately, Advanced Shipper seems to ignore the discount and gives them free shipping.

Here's what the totals look like in the shopping cart -
Sub-Total: £164.97 GBP
Better Together Discount: -£15.00 GBP
Shipping: £0.00 GBP
Total: £149.97 GBP

So, as you can see free shipping is offered even though the total cost is below the £150 threshold.

Is there a way to make Advanced Shipper aware of Better Together?

Thanks,
Damian

damiantaylor:

I've just started using the Better Together mod which gives a discount if 2 items are purchased together, and am wondering if it is possible to configure Advanced Shipper to take the discount in to consideration when calculating shipping costs?

For example, if I offer free shipping when the customer spends over £150, and they add 2 items to the cart that total £160 BUT there is a better together discount on those items of £20 so the total is actually £140, I would expect the customer to still have to pay a delivery charge.
Unfortunately, Advanced Shipper seems to ignore the discount and gives them free shipping.

Here's what the totals look like in the shopping cart -
Sub-Total: £164.97 GBP
Better Together Discount: -£15.00 GBP
Shipping: £0.00 GBP
Total: £149.97 GBP

So, as you can see free shipping is offered even though the total cost is below the £150 threshold.

Is there a way to make Advanced Shipper aware of Better Together?

Thanks,
Damian

Hi Damain
you would need to contact JS Web for support on this commercial mod. Did you buy it from them or have you owned it for more than 12 months?

I've had it for a while...I bought it from Connor a couple of years ago.
I'll get in touch with JSW and see what they say.

Thanks!

Is there a way to make Advanced Shipper aware of Better Together?
...anything is always possible...it's the time/cost of the path to get there...

Some generic advice...
I would see if this discount scheme works with the standard Zen Cart shipping methods first on a clean installation to check the issue is not with Better Together.
Then figure out what variables are beng used to carry this data (Superglobals) and see where/if Advanced Shipper is not dealing with them the same way.

Anyway for advanced shipper box not to show on delivery information page when no advanced shipping methods are available?

Wondering if anyone has enough experience with this module they might know the answer to my configuration need. My assumption is that I can use the nested table of rates to effect my solution but not sure how to make it work.

The scenario is I have 2 categories. One category uses usps (Cat A). The other category uses ups (Cat B) I have that configured fine.

But if a customer orders from both categories I want it to use UPS only. Therein is the problem because obviously it will still divided the shipping amongst the 2 categories/items.

The good news is Cat A has weights of 20lbs and over and price of $100 and over and Cat A has low weights and prices. So my assumption is that using nested table of rates in the Cat A "Method" there might be a way to tell the mod that if the total order price or total order weight is over a certain amount it will default to UPS only but not sure how to do that. Anyone with knowledge on this mod have any suggestions?

So the basic idea is:

Only Cat A - USPS

Only Cat B - UPS

Mixed Cat A and Cat B - UPS

is this correct?

Try this but change the weight breakpoints. The way this is set up is if the total weight is 1lb or less it will use the usps rate calculator. If it's over it will use fedex. You need to configure both shippers in the region definition.
<weight>1:usps, *:ups</weight>

i have modified ceons module to only show when when certain products in cart.
Ex.
only show this when cat a in cart
only show this when cat b in cart
or only show this when cat a and b in cart
my modifications are only applied to v5.02 and is in this forum

badarac:

Try this but change the weight breakpoints. The way this is set up is if the total weight is 1lb or less it will use the usps rate calculator. If it's over it will use fedex. You need to configure both shippers in the region definition.
<weight>1:usps, *:ups</weight>

To Ajeh's question, answer yes. But in respect to configuration I was able to find a solution myself with further exploration. That said, badarac's solution would probably solve it as well. The method I am using is based on price because in my instance all Cat A pricing below a threshold would go by regular mail anyways and above a threshold by UPS whereas all Cat B pricing is above $100 and Cat B always has to go by UPS. So if someone orders something from category A and then something from category B with this formula it will always show UPS. so I used a formula like this in the table of rates:
<totalorderprice>0-99:usps, 100-9999:ups</totalorderprice> eazy, peazy. Appreciate the attention and suggestions!

A shipping problem I have is that certain large (but light) items get charged steep volumetric rates by my courier so I need that to be reflected in the shipping price.

In my testing, having a separate method for these large items has the effect of offering the volumetric method and the normal method when the cart has mixed items, so I trying the idea of adding another surcharge/rates option to the normal method based on products id ie<pid>1234:20, 1235:20</pid>

While I have almost got it working, just wondering if anyone else has done anything to solve a similar problem?