Looking for Netregistry payments module

Hi,

Does anyone know where I can get a payments module for netregistry payments.
I'm anxious to get away from using Eway which has some serious flaws and is expensive.

Where does one go to get a module specially made for zen cart?

Regards
Robert

Where does one go to get a module specially made for zen cart?
It appears that they also have an ecommerce cart that works with the payment gateway

Have you contacted them about integration with ZenCart?

Hi Kobra,

Thank you for your reply. Yes, I contacted them, and asked for either a Zen cart module, or if I could pay them to write one. They replied to me that they didn't have one and it would be too expensive and too complicated to write one. I doubt it would be hard with their resources and that its more a case that they couldn't be bothered thinking about it, much less doing it.

As usual I'm disappointed to see how apathetic Australian Business really is. I pointed out to them how taking the trouble to create modules for the various shopping cart systems would dramatically increase their sales but I received silence as a response.

I did not see any integration steps/code on their site

Maybe you can ask if they have that

Hi Kobra,

They've got an API information document in PDF form. Which would be great if I knew PHP or was familiar with zen cart coding. I expext that anyone thats used to writing these things could use the information there in to do whats required. Sadly I don't have what it takes.

p1drobert:

As usual I'm disappointed to see how apathetic Australian Business really is. I pointed out to them how taking the trouble to create modules for the various shopping cart systems would dramatically increase their sales but I received silence as a response.

That's because both they, and I, know something that few people here like to acknowledge. The Australian market is tiny, its miniscule. This talk of 'dramatically increasing their sales' is poppy ########. If they created a ZenCart module they'll boost their customer base by perhaps one hundred. If they create the module for OsCommerce, they can expect perhaps 10-20 customers. It gets even worse with other eCommerce systems.

These estimates are based on the assumption that the number of ozpost clients provide a reasonable guide as to the number of active online Australian stores at any given time, and although it may be argued that only a small portion of the total number of merchants use ozpost, there were several years that ozpost was about the only viable shipping option for Australian merchants, and it was provided 100% free of charge and had no competition, so even though it had the market cornered, there still wasn't (and isn't) enough Australian online merchants to make module development a commercially viable proposition.

It isn't a matter of apathy, it is a matter of numbers and economics. We simply don't have the numbers. I wish we did, I'd love nothing more than to be able to reduce the ozpost subscription costs by a factor of 10 if I could gain a 10x increase in the number of customers, but it isn't going to happen, we don't have the numbers. :(

Cheers
Rod

p1drobert:

Hi Kobra,

They've got an API information document in PDF form. Which would be great if I knew PHP or was familiar with zen cart coding. I expext that anyone thats used to writing these things could use the information there in to do whats required. Sadly I don't have what it takes.

I'd be interested in having a go at this. I am looking for an alternative to PayPal as well.

Would you mind getting that PDF to me please (use the first link in my signature for contact details)

Cheers / Frank

frank18:

I'd be interested in having a go at this. I am looking for an alternative to PayPal as well.

Would you mind getting that PDF to me please (use the first link in my signature for contact details)

Cheers / Frank

Hi Frank,

I sent you an email from your page. Heres the links as well.
http://www.netregistry.com.au/support/index.php?/article/AA-00379/0/Payment-Gateway-API.html

http://www.netregistry.com.au/support/index.php?/getAttach/17/AA-00379/Payment+Gateway+API+Documentation+23-01-2012.pdf

Apparently there's an oscommerce module for netregistry payments which someone who knows what they're doing should be able to customize for zen cart.

Yes, I was using paypal for a while but didn't like the costs and the service, so went to EWAY. At first it seemed better till my sales increased and I became aware of their short comings.
Now I want to give netregistry payments a try as they don't have transaction fees. I'm so sick of transaction fees, especially for transactions that are rejected but I get charged for anyway.

Let me know how you get on and if you need assistance of any kind.

RodG:

It isn't a matter of apathy, it is a matter of numbers and economics. We simply don't have the numbers. I wish we did, I'd love nothing more than to be able to reduce the ozpost subscription costs by a factor of 10 if I could gain a 10x increase in the number of customers, but it isn't going to happen, we don't have the numbers. :(

Cheers
Rod

That's the spirit Rod, can't win, don't try. I have a friend who loves to quote this very homer simpson expression. This friend is unemployed and living with his parents. Can't win, don't try, rules Australian business lives for, and the same rules Australian business will die for.
I'm a pathethic one man operation designing products and selling on-line. I remember my friends telling me I shouldn't bother as I couldn't compete with china, or the big players. I'm glad I didn't listen as I'd be broke now if I had. A few more years, and some hard work, and determination and maybe I won't be a small fish.
There are no guarantees in business, you just need to do it and hope for the best. All those that think "ahh, its not worth the effort" are simply not going to survive.

If I don't join up with netregistry payments because I didn't have the module they lose $500 per year each year. Thats thousands of dollars from me alone, and more importantly they lose free advertising as each satisfied customer will tend to talk about their experiences on line. When people get on the forums looking for recommendations about credit card processors netregistry payments will lose out because everyone will be recommending the people they've been using, the guys who did have the integration module, etc. Can't win, don't try philosophy will kick your ######## in the long run.

In short, just freaking do it, and hope for the best. It beats sitting on your arse, unemployed and living with your parents.

p1drobert:

Hi Frank,

I sent you an email from your page. Heres the links as well.
http://www.netregistry.com.au/support/index.php?/article/AA-00379/0/Payment-Gateway-API.html

http://www.netregistry.com.au/support/index.php?/getAttach/17/AA-00379/Payment+Gateway+API+Documentation+23-01-2012.pdf

Apparently there's an oscommerce module for netregistry payments which someone who knows what they're doing should be able to customize for zen cart.

Yes, I was using paypal for a while but didn't like the costs and the service, so went to EWAY. At first it seemed better till my sales increased and I became aware of their short comings.
Now I want to give netregistry payments a try as they don't have transaction fees. I'm so sick of transaction fees, especially for transactions that are rejected but I get charged for anyway.

Let me know how you get on and if you need assistance of any kind.

I sent you and email with a few thoughts.

Then I just scrolled down to the bottom of this page and looked at similar threads - and guess what: someone has ported this module and it is running on ZC.

See http://www.zen-cart.com/showthread.php?207558-Curl-error-in-Netregistry-Payment-module

Would be worth a try contacting the poster and asking for a copy of their netregistry.php file.

Cheers / Frank

Robert,

done a bit of digging in the forums and I found the poster's website

horsemansshop dot com dot au

You may want to try and get in touch with the owner of the site and ask them for these files (zipped):

includes/modules/payment/netregistry.php
includes/languages/english/modules/payment/netregistry.php

It would save a lot of time trying to port the osC module

Cheers / Frank

p1drobert:

That's the spirit Rod, can't win, don't try

You must really love shooting yourself in the foot don't you.

p1drobert:

Can't win, don't try philosophy will kick your ######## in the long run.

That is NOT my philosophy, never has been, never will be. I've been developing ground breaking code, and have even achieved 'the impossible' ever since I first started programming way back in the 80's.

There is a huge difference between whether something can be done, and whether it is worthwhile doing it. My stance is that for the big businesses, like NAB, etc, they don't consider it worthwhile due to a lack of demand, or more specifically, a negative ROI.

p1drobert:

In short, just freaking do it, and hope for the best. It beats sitting on your arse, unemployed and living with your parents.

Where the F do you get off with these insinuations? I work up to 18 hours a day. I'm NOT unemployed, I'm on a disability pension. My parents both passed away many years ago.

So, WHY do I say you shot yourself in the foot? I've taken a look at the API and the requirements, and contrary to what you may think, this is a VERY EASY API to work with. I had serious consideration to slap a module together for myself when I saw how simple it would be to implement in any given store (any php developer with more than 6 months experience will be able to look at the API documention and create a suitable module with equal ease). It really is that simple! The API docs contains everything a developer could ask for, including sample code in several different programming languages, so much of the trickier stuff is simply a matter of cut n paste.

If that isn't enough. You've already identified that there is already an oscommerce module for this. You apparently don't appreciate how similar the ZenCart code and the OsCommerce code is. I estimate that it should take no more than about 30-60 minutes to convert the oscommerce module to ZenCart (and probably no more than 4 or 5 hours to develop from scratch, using the API examples).

So, now ask yourself, if it is as easy as I'm saying it is, then why hasn't it already been done (assuming it still hasn't). It's as I keep trying to tell you. Australia doesn't have the numbers. It has nothing to do with difficulty or complexity at all.

So, you now ask, if it's that simple, why don't I do it? Well, that's where you've shot yourself in the foot. Where as I would well have considered donating 30-60 minutes of my time to make the conversion for the benefit of Australian ZenCart merchants, I only envisage it will be used by no more than 4 or 5 people.
You and Frank being two, Johanne (horsemansshop dot com dot au) being the 3rd, with perhaps two others that I'm unaware of. (It's not like they've been asking about it themselves). So, as I keep trying to get across to you, it isn't a matter of apathy, or difficulty, it is all a matter of demand (or lack of). Until you understand and appreciate this, you are going to be forever alienating yourself towards the handful of people in this country that have both the skills and incentive to create the code that you desire.

You would have been FAR better off without your needless and pointless insinuations. In fact you can now consider that it your response that has persuaded me that it isn't even worth spending 60 minutes on this. It would be a different story if I thought even just 10 others would benefit.

Perhaps a head count is in order? I really don't like having other people suffer due to the inconsideration of one person, and as I often do, I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is (as it were), so here's the deal.

IF TEN OR MORE AUSTRALIAN ZENCART MERCHANTS could indicate that they want, and will use a NAB Payment gateway module (and assuming a suitable solution hasn't been found) in say, the next 10 days. I will create such a module, free of charges and obligations.

On the other hand, if I don't get this response, I will ask that you once and for all stop insisting that there are actually 1000's of Aust ZenCart users, and the apparent lack of support for Australian Business has nothing to do with 'Apathy', but really is a matter of what I've been telling you for years. We don't have the numbers.

Does this seem fair and reasonable? If not, feel free to suggest a modification, keeping in mind, that my bottom line interest isn't to win any bets. It is about the only way I can think of to determine whether I'll be coding for one or two people (that already have 'issues' with me), or whether there will be a far greater benefit to a much larger audience. For less than 10 users, I don't consider it worth the time (others might).

On the other hand, you appear so confident that this will benefit 100's (or 1000's) of merchants that you should be able to rest assured that at least 10 of these 1000's will speak up.

Time to sit back and let reality take its course.

I'm confident the numbers won't be there, but I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong.

Rgds
Rod

Hi,

I'm just doing an update for anyone else who was also looking for the netregistry payments module.
Apaprently some one else has been using the OScommerce netregistry payments module and it works on zen cart for release version 1.3.9h (unmodified as I understand it). However it doesn't work for later releases of zen cart.

I had decided to take a punt and sign up with netregistry payments, unfortunately I was contacted by them 30 minutes after signing up and was told that they could only provide these services if I transferred my hosting over to them as well. As I did not want to lock my self into netregistry hosting I cancelled the whole process and given up on netregistry payments.

I wish to convey my thanks to all those that have contributed positively to this thread.

Shheessh Robert. It's OK making things difficult for yourself, but do you really need to drag others into your idealistic view of the world as though it actually exists?

p1drobert:

I'm just doing an update for anyone else who was also looking for the netregistry payments module.

Considering the underwhelming response we've had had so far, to.......

Perhaps a head count is in order? I really don't like having other people suffer due to the inconsideration of one person, and as I often do, I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is (as it were), so here's the deal.

IF TEN OR MORE AUSTRALIAN ZENCART MERCHANTS could indicate that they want, and will use a NAB Payment gateway module (and assuming a suitable solution hasn't been found) in say, the next 10 days. I will create such a module, free of charges and obligations.

......The 'everyone else' don't appear to exist... Even I expected a little more interest.

p1drobert:

Apaprently some one else has been using the OScommerce netregistry payments module and it works on zen cart.

This could explain the lack of interest in having one created.

p1drobert:

for release version 1.3.9h (unmodified as I understand it).

Here is where we run into trouble. I can do more than give an 'As I understand it'. I can confidently type that this 'understanding' is wrong.
I can just as confidently sit here and type "This is wrong" when someone states "2 + 2 = 5 as I understand it"

The reason why I can be so confident about this isn't because I'm so amazingly brilliant, but because I know the difference between tep_ and zen_

Your response is going to call me names, and perhaps imply that this is a matter of interpretation.

p1drobert:

However it doesn't work for later releases of zen cart.

Now.

p1drobert:

That's the spirit Rod, can't win, don't try

Then.

My spin: That's the spirit Rob, It doesn't work for later releases so there's no point in giving the URL for those 1000's of Aussies still running V1.3.9. Also, if someone was going to consider updating it for V1.5 compatibility purposes why should I help them by sharing the information I've discovered.. I'll tease them instead and just hint that it may exist.

No, that won't waste anyone's time at all will it?

p1drobert:

I was contacted by them 30 minutes after signing up and was told that they could only provide these services if I transferred my hosting over to them as well. As I did not want to lock my self into netregistry hosting I cancelled the whole process and given up on netregistry payments..

I will assume that you are either mistaken, or were misinformed about this. Either way, it is incorrect and misleading.

SECTION1: INTRODUCTION
This document lists the different** commands available to internally and externally hosted merchants **for programming Netregistry’s e‐commerce gateway.

1. What is the e‐commerce gateway?
   In simple terms, the e‐commerce gateway is a secure network through which merchants may facilitate online credit card Transactions with either St.George Bank (Ingenico) or the National Australia Bank (nab) (Quest).
   At Netregistry, this service is offered under the product Payment Gateway. This service may be used to connect to an existing Website located on our own servers**,or externally at another provider.**
   <Ref: http://www.netregistry.com.au/support/index.php?/article/AA-00379/0/Payment-Gateway-API.html (3rd June 2013)

p1drobert:

I wish to convey my thanks to all those that have contributed positively to this thread.

Nothing to be read into this at all. I'm but one of the 1000's of participants, and I think my contributions have been positive. I have a hard time telling these days.

My offer to create/update/port a module (if something suitable doesn't already exist, and there is a show of hands to demonstrate that at least a tiny handful of people would benefit) still stands.

However, if you have already found/discovered there is already a working solution somewhere out there (even if only compatible with V1.3.9) then the least you can/should do is post a link as a truly positive and viable option for those that read this thread in the future. At the moment you appear to wish to end the thread as being somewhat up in the air without useful closure.

Rgds
Rod.
(Still sitting back and watching reality and expectations take take their course).

Hi Rod,

Thank you for your offer to write a Netregistry module; however as I said, its no longer required due to netregistry's insistance on locking people in to their Hosting services. People are always trying to lock people into bad deals. I'm not so idealistic that I can't see when people are trying to exploit people while pretending to help them.

I see there's an NAB module already and I'm currently considering them as an alternative to Eway.

However, if you have already found/discovered there is already a working solution somewhere out there (even if only compatible with V1.3.9) then the least you can/should do is post a link as a truly positive and viable option for those that read this thread in the future. At the moment you appear to wish to end the thread as being somewhat up in the air without useful closure.

Rgds
Rod.
(Still sitting back and watching reality and expectations take take their course)....
... Still as per predictions... next come the insults..