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30 Nov 2013, 10:58 AM
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I want to change friendly url

my web is https://www.multichollo.com and I would like that each name product appears in url for the best position in google.
example http://www.medialunasevilla.com/diabolo-c-118.html
¿what code I have to change?.
Can I Do by htaccesss???
I don´t want to use the module seo ultimate or mapping for zencart.

Thanks.

30 Nov 2013, 2:04 PM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

catiana:

my web is https://www.multichollo.com and I would like that each name product appears in url for the best position in google.
example http://www.medialunasevilla.com/diabolo-c-118.html
¿what code I have to change?.
Can I Do by htaccesss???
I don´t want to use the module seo ultimate or mapping for zencart.

Thanks.

While this topic is of great debate, content is important in helping search rankings.

Not sure what you are using to generate the uris you have, so wouldn't be able to tell you what code to change. Yes a combination of htaccess and php code would more than likely have to change to get what you are looking for.

30 Nov 2013, 5:40 PM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

You don't want to use one of the already developed and tested URL rewriter mods, you want to do the same thing they do by yourself, starting from scratch. That doesn't make much sense to me. If it could be reliably handled by a simple, easy file and code change, why would the major rewriter mods ever have been written?

Also, you give an example of what you want which defeats the main purpose of rewriting:
...medialunasevilla.com/diabolo-c-118.html
Everything in red is meaningless to customers, and will just make it harder for them to remember and write your page address.
The .html is a leftover from old days when it was thought that search engines couldn't index dynamic pages, and SEO "experts" tried to fool SEs into thinking that dynamic sites were really static HTML.

30 Nov 2013, 5:46 PM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

The OP's site is currently using plain stock ZC URLs, so there's nothing mysterious there about generation methods.

30 Nov 2013, 5:56 PM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

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While this topic is of great debate, content is important in helping search rankings.

Not sure what you are using to generate the uris you have, so wouldn't be able to tell you what code to change. Yes a combination of htaccess and php code would more than likely have to change to get what you are looking for.

I should have gone the step further and point out, yes you could change your htaccess file to include a rewrite for each and every item that you have and will have in your cart, and have to change it each and every time you change something that is in the url and associated with the product.

Also, I could have pointed out that existing methods have been created for a couple of reasons and through a couple of methods. 1) is that something that works for the majority of situations, 2) once implemented works with ZC not against it, not around it, 3) has been tested on multiple systems over the years and feedback has been provided to make improvements.

I can say, that looking through the code for CEON URI rewriter, there are conditions that were implemented, that I would not have even considered checking. Whether implemented initially or added on as the product became more robust, the processs is easy, the development is hard and knowing where to implement/incorporate some part of the process becomes important.

Whatever you choose, good luck to you. If you are out to enjoy programming, I wish you luck, if you are out to make a sale, user your time wisely and don't let your store shut down because of a mistake.

30 Nov 2013, 10:12 PM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

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...medialunasevilla.com/diabolo-c-118.html
Everything in red is meaningless to customers, and will just make it harder for them to remember and write your page address.

I don't know if I'm the weird exception or not, but I haven't typed in or written an address like this for well over a decade.
The most I've ever typed is the domain name (if I know it). From there I'll navigate via the site links. As a general rule though I don't even do that, I just click on the links provided by the search engines.
If I wish to provide a link to a specific item in my store I'll cut n paste the native zencart link from the browser with full confidence that no one is ever going to retype it when all they need to do is click on it

Am I weird or what?

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30 Nov 2013, 10:37 PM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

RodG:

I don't know if I'm the weird exception or not, but I haven't typed in or written an address like this for well over a decade.
The most I've ever typed is the domain name (if I know it). From there I'll navigate via the site links. As a general rule though I don't even do that, I just click on the links provided by the search engines.
If I wish to provide a link to a specific item in my store I'll cut n paste the native zencart link from the browser with full confidence that no one is ever going to retype it when all they need to do is click on it

Am I weird or what?

Cheers
Rod

Right there with you. Who types full URLs into the address bar ? If your visitors need to look at the page URL to see where they are, your site has serious navigation problems that a rewriter won't fix.

1 Dec 2013, 1:51 AM
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I am in agreement with these comments... but there could be the case where someone wants to use a specific product/page URL in a printed advertisement. In that specific case, I can see the value in rewriting. I doubt that is really a factor for many sites, though, and would not bother with the added maintenance of configuring and maintaining rewritten URLs.

1 Dec 2013, 3:07 AM
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I am in agreement with these comments... but there could be the case where someone wants to use a specific product/page URL in a printed advertisement. In that specific case, I can see the value in rewriting. I doubt that is really a factor for many sites, though, and would not bother with the added maintenance of configuring and maintaining rewritten URLs.

It is for this reason that we implemented URI rewriting... Makes fliers easy, and maintaining a consistent format for all "new" products makes it easier for our return guests to type in the option up front.

We deal primarily with donations, so having something like donate-to-sammy as the end of our URI makes it easier for our volunteers to remember and to talk up getting donations. (I only know of one URI rewriter that doesn't require extraneous characters in the URI in order to work.)

I will admit that recently it was nice to see one of our URIs show up on a first page search when I was looking for something specific; however, the referenced page had been online for 6+ months and has significantly related content. I don't believe the URI is the cause, but it was kind of cool. (And actually the URI wasn't a rewritten one, just the title of the page.) I expect to have a similar page next year, need to do a better job of capitalizing on the related appearing and directing traffic to our sales area next time...

1 Dec 2013, 4:55 AM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

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It is for this reason that we implemented URI rewriting... Makes fliers easy, and maintaining a consistent format for all "new" products makes it easier for our return guests to type in the option up front.

We deal primarily with donations, so having something like donate-to-sammy as the end of our URI makes it easier for our volunteers to remember and to talk up getting donations. (I only know of one URI rewriter that doesn't require extraneous characters in the URI in order to work.)

I'll not argue the fact that there are a few (very few) instances where URL rewriting is actually a good thing, but what if I told you that there is a far better way that doesn't involve the installation of any add-ons or modules, is far more versatile, and takes no coding skills whatsoever?

If I take the time to explain it, would you promise to reconsider your dependence on using the addons that you are currently employing?

mc12345678:

I will admit that recently it was nice to see one of our URIs show up on a first page search when I was looking for something specific; however, the referenced page had been online for 6+ months and has significantly related content. I don't believe the URI is the cause,

That's good, because it has been shown time and time again that the URL format doesn't have any significant effect on SE rankings. At best is is used as a 'deal breaker' when all else is equal.

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but it was kind of cool. (And actually the URI wasn't a rewritten one, just the title of the page.)

Take a close look at any of the results shown by Google, and you'll come to observe that it is page titles that get the most prominent display, not the URL's. For reason that escape me, most people seem to assume that it is the URL's that are most prominent. This hasn't been the case for almost 2 decades.

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I expect to have a similar page next year, need to do a better job of capitalizing on the related appearing and directing traffic to our sales area next time...

If you concentrate your efforts on page content, let ZenCart handle the page titles & meta-tags and you'll be rewarded with good rankings and good traffic. It really isn't any more complicated than that.

Any and all other 'tricks' that you use to fool the SE's getting better rankings than they deserve will eventually work against you. The idea of URL rewriting to improve SEO is a classic example. There was a time when this gave sites a significant benefit, but then it started to get abused with people creating URL's designed to increase rankings, even though the contents of the page(s) had nothing to do with the contents of the URL's.
'Keyword spamming' (adding irrelevant keywords to the meta-tags) is another classic example that used to work at one time, but these days can push a site into 'google hell'.

Cheers
Rod

1 Dec 2013, 7:29 AM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

RodG:

I'll not argue the fact that there are a few (very few) instances where URL rewriting is actually a good thing, but what if I told you that there is a far better way that doesn't involve the installation of any add-ons or modules, is far more versatile, and takes no coding skills whatsoever?

If I take the time to explain it, would you promise to reconsider your dependence on using the addons that you are currently employing?

That's good, because it has been shown time and time again that the URL format doesn't have any significant effect on SE rankings. At best is is used as a 'deal breaker' when all else is equal.

Take a close look at any of the results shown by Google, and you'll come to observe that it is page titles that get the most prominent display, not the URL's. For reason that escape me, most people seem to assume that it is the URL's that are most prominent. This hasn't been the case for almost 2 decades.

If you concentrate your efforts on page content, let ZenCart handle the page titles & meta-tags and you'll be rewarded with good rankings and good traffic. It really isn't any more complicated than that.

Any and all other 'tricks' that you use to fool the SE's getting better rankings than they deserve will eventually work against you. The idea of URL rewriting to improve SEO is a classic example. There was a time when this gave sites a significant benefit, but then it started to get abused with people creating URL's designed to increase rankings, even though the contents of the page(s) had nothing to do with the contents of the URL's.
'Keyword spamming' (adding irrelevant keywords to the meta-tags) is another classic example that used to work at one time, but these days can push a site into 'google hell'.

Cheers
Rod

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3 Dec 2013, 1:23 AM
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Re: I want to change friendly url

As to the "printed page" analogy often used to justify "pretty URI's", you can print mysite.com/fantabulous and create a simple redirect. When traffic to the redirect stops, remove it or simply ignore it.

After all, you do have a custom 404 in place, right?