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8 Jan 2015, 1:56 PM
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Westminster New

DivaVocals:

I found two more files that need this same fix:
**includes/templates/westminster_new/common/tpl_home_slider.php
Line #41 : **```

<script src="<?php echo $template->get_template_dir('',DIR_WS_TEMPLATE, $current_page_base,'jscript') . '/jquery.flexslider.js' ?>" type="text/javascript"></script>

Should be:

<script src="<?php echo $template->get_template_dir('jquery.flexslider.js',DIR_WS_TEMPLATE, $current_page_base,'jscript') . '/jquery.flexslider.js' ?>" type="text/javascript"></script>
> 
> **includes/templates/westminster_new/common/tpl_main_page.php
> Line #**93** : ****```
<script src="<?php echo  $template->get_template_dir('',DIR_WS_TEMPLATE,  $current_page_base,'jscript') . '/back_to_top.min.js' ?>"  type="text/javascript"></script>

Should be:****```

<script src="<?php echo $template->get_template_dir('back_to_top.min.js',DIR_WS_TEMPLATE, $current_page_base,'jscript') . '/back_to_top.min.js' ?>" type="text/javascript"></script>

Great.  I am currently working on a major package update and will be sure to include these changes.  Thank you for posting!

Thanks,

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11 Jan 2015, 6:48 PM
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Re: Westminster New

I just submitted an update to the template package:

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11 Jan 2015, 8:11 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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I just submitted an update to the template package:

Thanks,

Anne

This sounds awesome.. but if I may make a suggestion..

If you are going to bundle in a lightbox contribution, you should consider using Zen Colorbox instead of Zen Lightbox.. Zen Colorbox is maintained by the SAME author as Zen Lightbox. Anyone using Zen Lightbox with a responsive theme SHOULD upgrade/update/replace Zen Lightbox with Zen Colorbox..

More info:> niestudio:

Slimbox, which is what ZLB is based on is no longer in active development, so it's unlikely that a true responsive version will come along. I will compare it to ZCB to see if there is a simple fix I could add, but don't hold your breath :)
davewest:

Slimbox is a very slimed down lightbox... doesn't have code for anything other then images.. where colorbox is a full lightbox and can display anthing... I use it to dispaly images, help, privacy, contact-us form and such... easy to setup, degrades back to a standard popup... responsive, no problems. create the standard popup, add zen colorbox code, set a class, set a watch for the class in DOM, done...

12 Jan 2015, 12:03 PM
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Re: Westminster New

"If you are going to bundle in a lightbox contribution, you should consider using Zen Colorbox instead of Zen Lightbox.. Zen Colorbox is maintained by the SAME author as Zen Lightbox. Anyone using Zen Lightbox with a responsive theme SHOULD upgrade/update/replace Zen Lightbox with Zen Colorbox.."

Is there a demo where we can see it in action ?

12 Jan 2015, 2:35 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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"If you are going to bundle in a lightbox contribution, you should consider using Zen Colorbox instead of Zen Lightbox.. Zen Colorbox is maintained by the SAME author as Zen Lightbox. Anyone using Zen Lightbox with a responsive theme SHOULD upgrade/update/replace Zen Lightbox with Zen Colorbox.."

Is there a demo where we can see it in action ?

Download Zen Colorbox and test it if you like.. The responsive bits are found in this file: ** 1_Installer_Files/includes/templates/YOUR_TEMPLATE/jscript/jquery.colorbox-min.js**. (commits for this change can also be found here: https://github.com/daniel-hopkins/zen-colorbox/commit/067403c63e7945ec38b38f4cd12b35a5048bf79f)

The code that makes Zen Colorbox responsive is found in the underlying Colorbox library which Zen Colorbox is based on. http://www.jacklmoore.com/colorbox/. Here's the reference to the Colorbox library updates to make it responsive: https://github.com/jackmoore/colorbox/issues/183#issuecomment-42039671

Slimbox which Zen Lightbox is based on IS NOT RESPONSIVE and has not been updated in over 5 years.. So EVEN IF Zen Lightbox was responsive (which it is not) the library it's based on is not being maintained, and therefore Zen Lightbox is OBSOLETE (which is why the active maintainer is NOT making any further updates to it).. Out of respect for this support thread, any additional discussion about Zen Lightbox or Zen Colorbox should be posted on the appropriate support forums for these modules..

12 Jan 2015, 3:26 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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Download Zen Colorbox and test it if you like.. The responsive bits are found in this file: ** 1_Installer_Files/includes/templates/YOUR_TEMPLATE/jscript/jquery.colorbox-min.js**. (commits for this change can also be found here: https://github.com/daniel-hopkins/zen-colorbox/commit/067403c63e7945ec38b38f4cd12b35a5048bf79f)

The code that makes Zen Colorbox responsive is found in the underlying Colorbox library which Zen Colorbox is based on. http://www.jacklmoore.com/colorbox/. Here's the reference to the Colorbox library updates to make it responsive: https://github.com/jackmoore/colorbox/issues/183#issuecomment-42039671

Slimbox which Zen Lightbox is based on IS NOT RESPONSIVE and has not been updated in over 5 years.. So EVEN IF Zen Lightbox was responsive (which it is not) the library it's based on is not being maintained, and therefore Zen Lightbox is OBSOLETE (which is why the active maintainer is NOT making any further updates to it).. Out of respect for this support thread, any additional discussion about Zen Lightbox or Zen Colorbox should be posted on the appropriate support forums for these modules..

Thank you so much for your comment ;) I will definitely consider switching over to color box. I was not aware that slimbox was defunct.

But, zen lightbox is responsive:

http://durl.me/829uxy

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12 Jan 2015, 4:54 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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Thank you so much for your comment ;) I will definitely consider switching over to color box. I was not aware that slimbox was defunct.

But, zen lightbox is responsive:

http://durl.me/829uxy

Thanks,

Anne

Well in none of my testing was Zen Lightbox responsive particularly on smartphones which is why I switched over to Zen Colorbox. I discovered that there was an issue on responsive templates testing one of Raymonds EARLY responsive template framework prototypes.. Switching to Zen Colobox was the suggestion of the Zen Colorbox (and Zen Lightbox) author when I inquired about responsive behavior and Zen Lightbox. He was the one who made me (and the support thread) aware that the underlying library that Zen Lightbox is based on (Slimbox) is outdated, and because of this he would not be doing any additional updates to Zen Lightbox. He was recommending that people switch to Zen Colorbox instead..

Personally if I use this template again and Zen Lightbox is bundled in I would be removing it anyway because of the Slimbox deal, and the fact that Daniel (the author of both modules) will not be updating this module anymore... Everybody will not agree with me on this, and I know that there are still some Zen Lightbox fans out there.. I'm just not one of them for all the reasons mentioned..

12 Jan 2015, 4:57 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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Well in none of my testing was Zen Lightbox responsive particularly on smartphones which is why I switched over to Zen Colorbox. This was the suggestion of the Zen Colorbox and Zen Lightbox author when I inquired about responsive behavior and Zen Lightbox. He was the one who made me and the support thread aware that the underlying library that Zen Lightbox is based on is outdated, and because of this he would not be doing any additional updates to Zen Lightbox. He was recommending that people switch to Zen Colorbox instead..

Personally if I use this template again and Zen Lightbox is bundled in I would be removing it anyway because of the Slimbox deal, and the fact that Daniel (the author) will not be updating this module anymore... Everybody will not agree with me on this, and I know that there are still some Zen Lightbox fans out there.. I'm just not one of them for all the reasons mentioned..

Yes, I agree. I just wanted to link to the emulator that is showing the plugin working on mobile devices.

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12 Jan 2015, 5:32 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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Yes, I agree. I just wanted to link to the emulator that is showing the plugin working on mobile devices.

Thanks,

Anne

Yes I do acknowledge that the emulator does appear to show it's working.. This wasn't my experience with Zen Lightbox when testing Raymonds early responsive framework, and because of that (and the author's suggestion) I PERSONALLY don't use the Zen Lightbox module anymore.. But yes it does appear to be working..

Anyway.. Whatever you bundle into the template is your call :smile:.. Just looking forward to the new version with the other updates in place.. just wanted to throw in my three cents regarding the differences between the two modules..

13 Jan 2015, 2:27 AM
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Re: Westminster New

Is it safe to guess that responsive support for android tablets just isn't going to happen? Samsung galaxy tab 3 both 8 & 10" versions are the ones I can test.

13 Jan 2015, 2:34 AM
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Re: Westminster New

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Is it safe to guess that responsive support for android tablets just isn't going to happen? Samsung galaxy tab 3 both 8 & 10" versions are the ones I can test.

I don't see any problems with the Galaxy Tab S:

http://durl.me/82c93r

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13 Jan 2015, 4:46 AM
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Re: Westminster New

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I don't see any problems with the Galaxy Tab S:

http://durl.me/82c93r

Thanks,

Anne

I must have swallowed a dumb pill because that link takes me to a classic green installation instead of a responsive install.

Tab 3 is not a tab s. Screen resolutions are different. 800x1280 vs 1600x2560

The WN demo, which I assume is the latest version, has the same menu issues as before. Menus collapse before a selection can be made. Functionality differs dependent upon whether you touch the menu item or the arrow.

13 Jan 2015, 7:31 AM
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Re: Westminster New

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I must have swallowed a dumb pill because that link takes me to a classic green installation instead of a responsive install.

Tab 3 is not a tab s. Screen resolutions are different. 800x1280 vs 1600x2560

The WN demo, which I assume is the latest version, has the same menu issues as before. Menus collapse before a selection can be made. Functionality differs dependent upon whether you touch the menu item or the arrow.

That is my experience as well with the Android devices.. I have three devices I am testing with.. (smartphone/phablet, 7" tablet, 10" tablet) The dropdown menus do not work well.. The dropdown activates, but you cannot scroll down to get to any of the items without the menu collapsing..

I am going to just look for another menu.. the mobile dropdown menu that is bundled with Genesis (a WordPress theme framework) doesn't have the same issues with the Android devices.. Gonna see if I can isolate the menu code that is used there or just find a menu with similar behavior.. I'll share what I find with you (if you are interested) since both you and I seem to be on the same page with regards to the issues with Android devices..

13 Jan 2015, 3:13 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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That is my experience as well with the Android devices.. I have three devices I am testing with.. (smartphone/phablet, 7" tablet, 10" tablet) The dropdown menus do not work well.. The dropdown activates, but you cannot scroll down to get to any of the items without the menu collapsing..

I am going to just look for another menu.. the mobile dropdown menu that is bundled with Genesis (a WordPress theme framework) doesn't have the same issues with the Android devices.. Gonna see if I can isolate the menu code that is used there or just find a menu with similar behavior.. I'll share what I find with you (if you are interested) since both you and I seem to be on the same page with regards to the issues with Android devices..

I would be happy to change the menu if you find one that you consider better that works with all devices. You can either post the code to the thread or email it to me.

Thanks,

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13 Jan 2015, 3:14 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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That is my experience as well with the Android devices.. I have three devices I am testing with.. (smartphone/phablet, 7" tablet, 10" tablet) The dropdown menus do not work well.. The dropdown activates, but you cannot scroll down to get to any of the items without the menu collapsing..

I am going to just look for another menu.. the mobile dropdown menu that is bundled with Genesis (a WordPress theme framework) doesn't have the same issues with the Android devices.. Gonna see if I can isolate the menu code that is used there or just find a menu with similar behavior.. I'll share what I find with you (if you are interested) since both you and I seem to be on the same page with regards to the issues with Android devices..

If you find something that more functional on Android devices, I am interested but coding is not my forte'. The menu collapse is why I put a link to the "renamed sitemap" calling it "Alternate Main Menu" in the footer as a stopgap measure but was hoping that the latest template update would have corrected the menu shortcomings.

I can appreciate that Android device behavior can be problematic since template functions a bit differently in every browser.... Native Samsung, Chrome, FireFox and LastPass. Phone, 7", 8" & 10" The 7" is detected as a phone.

Given the vast number of different Android devices, I can also see where it is difficult to impossible for developers to test every combination, unlike Apple devices which only have a handful of combinations.

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Re: Westminster New

RixStix:

I must have swallowed a dumb pill because that link takes me to a classic green installation instead of a responsive install.

Tab 3 is not a tab s. Screen resolutions are different. 800x1280 vs 1600x2560

The WN demo, which I assume is the latest version, has the same menu issues as before. Menus collapse before a selection can be made. Functionality differs dependent upon whether you touch the menu item or the arrow.

Weird. You can see the test by going to:

http://troy.labs.daum.net/

then putting in the template demo url at the top:

http://www.zenlyzen.com/responsive-zen-cart-templates/index.php?main_page=index&display_mode=isTablet

And selecting "Galaxy Tab S" from the Samsung drop down on the left. Resolution is 800 x 1280.

Thanks,

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13 Jan 2015, 3:50 PM
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Re: Westminster New

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Weird. You can see the test by going to:

http://troy.labs.daum.net/

then putting in the template demo url at the top:

http://www.zenlyzen.com/responsive-zen-cart-templates/index.php?main_page=index&display_mode=isTablet

And selecting "Galaxy Tab S" from the Samsung drop down on the left. Resolution is 800 x 1280.

Thanks,

Anne

Done that. Default Classic Contemporary Green template.
Instead, I went to your website, copied the link & opened the WN demo on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3. Can't click the link on your website using my Android tablet because the menus collapse quicker than I can touch anything.
http://www.zenlyzen.com/responsive-zen-cart-templates/index.php?main_page=index&template_switch_id=westminster_new

Functionality using a mouse on the emulator is not the same as using touch on a real tablet.

13 Jan 2015, 3:56 PM
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Re: Westminster New

RixStix:

Done that. Default Classic Contemporary Green template.
Instead, I went to your website, copied the link & opened the WN demo on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3. Can't click the link on your website using my Android tablet because the menus collapse quicker than I can touch anything.
http://www.zenlyzen.com/responsive-zen-cart-templates/index.php?main_page=index&template_switch_id=westminster_new

Functionality using a mouse on the emulator is not the same as using touch on a real tablet.

Ok, if you come across a menu that works better for you, just let me know or post the code here and I will include it. It has to be a compatible license with the GPL and work on all mobile devices.

Thanks,

Anne

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Re: Westminster New

RixStix:

If you find something that more functional on Android devices, I am interested but coding is not my forte'. The menu collapse is why I put a link to the "renamed sitemap" calling it "Alternate Main Menu" in the footer as a stopgap measure but was hoping that the latest template update would have corrected the menu shortcomings.

I can appreciate that Android device behavior can be problematic since template functions a bit differently in every browser.... Native Samsung, Chrome, FireFox and LastPass. Phone, 7", 8" & 10" The 7" is detected as a phone.

Given the vast number of different Android devices, I can also see where it is difficult to impossible for developers to test every combination, unlike Apple devices which only have a handful of combinations.

Rick and Diva,

Please do me a favor, and take a look at this site that I just completed on your androids and see if the menu behaves better:

http://www.titaniumnecklaceshop.com

Thanks,

Anne

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Re: Westminster New

Weird. You can see the test by going to:

http://troy.labs.daum.net/

then putting in the template demo url at the top:

http://www.zenlyzen.com/responsive-z..._mode=isTablet

And selecting "Galaxy Tab S" from the Samsung drop down on the left. Resolution is 800 x 1280.

it throws a script error then displays the default green template

'jQuery' is undefined
File: index.php, Line: 26, Column: 17