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30 Mar 2015, 10:27 PM
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clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

i am currently running 1.39h. on this page

http://www.zen-cart.com/content.php?48-what-are-the-server-requirements-to-run-zen-cart

it states

Zen Cart v1.3.9 series is compatible with PHP 5.2.10 thru PHP 5.3.x.

Zen Cart v1.3.9 is compatible with MySQL 4.1.3+ thru 5.1

yet my server is running

PHP Version: 5.4.19 (Zend: 2.4.0) PHP Memory Limit: 128M
Database: MySQL 5.1.73

i want to upgrade to php5.6.7 and mysql **5.6 ** will there be an issue? i want to because later i will be upgrading to 1.5.4.

thank you.

30 Mar 2015, 10:38 PM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

travbacon:

i am currently running 1.39h. on this page

http://www.zen-cart.com/content.php?48-what-are-the-server-requirements-to-run-zen-cart

it states

Zen Cart v1.3.9 series is compatible with PHP 5.2.10 thru PHP 5.3.x.

Zen Cart v1.3.9 is compatible with MySQL 4.1.3+ thru 5.1

yet my server is running

PHP Version: 5.4.19 (Zend: 2.4.0) PHP Memory Limit: 128M
Database: MySQL 5.1.73

i want to upgrade to php5.6.7 and mysql **5.6 ** will there be an issue? i want to because later i will be upgrading to 1.5.4.

thank you.

Upgrade to 1.5.4 first

30 Mar 2015, 10:49 PM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

i cannot at the moment and this does not answer my question.

31 Mar 2015, 12:25 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

If you upgrade your php before your ZC, it will be an issue. That is if you want to your store to continue to operate, you be able to modify product information, etc... If not, then no issue whatsoever.

31 Mar 2015, 12:45 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

No one is reading the question.

Let's dummify the question.

Zen Cart v1.3.9 series is compatible with PHP 5.2.10 thru PHP 5.3.x.
Zen Cart v1.3.9 is compatible with MySQL 4.1.3+ thru 5.1

MY 1.3.9h IS CURRENTLY RUNNING ON A SERVER WITH
PHP Version: 5.4.19
MySQL 5.1.73

BOTH HIGHER THAN THE REQ STATED

WITHOUT BRINGING ZC 1.5.4 INTO THE PICTURE. WHILE RUNNING 1.3.9h CAN I UPGRADE MYSQL TO 5.6 AND PHP TO 5.6 WITHOUT AN ISSUES.

THIS IS SO OUR 1.3.9 CAN RUN WITH THE LATEST AND LATER ON MAYBE IN 6 MONTHS WE'LL UPGRADE TO 1.5.4.

31 Mar 2015, 1:12 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

travbacon:

No one is reading the question.

Let's dummify the question.

Zen Cart v1.3.9 series is compatible with PHP 5.2.10 thru PHP 5.3.x.
Zen Cart v1.3.9 is compatible with MySQL 4.1.3+ thru 5.1

MY 1.3.9h IS CURRENTLY RUNNING ON A SERVER WITH
PHP Version: 5.4.19
MySQL 5.1.73

BOTH HIGHER THAN THE REQ STATED

WITHOUT BRINGING ZC 1.5.4 INTO THE PICTURE. WHILE RUNNING 1.3.9h CAN I UPGRADE MYSQL TO 5.6 AND PHP TO 5.6 WITHOUT AN ISSUES.

THIS IS SO OUR 1.3.9 CAN RUN WITH THE LATEST AND LATER ON MAYBE IN 6 MONTHS WE'LL UPGRADE TO 1.5.4.

How about one better. Setup a local server with the desired version of php and mysql and test it.

As to the posted operation, at the time of writing the requirements of zc 1.3.9, php versions above 5.3.x didn't exist. Problems have been seen in stores operating with PHP 5.4... That yours is still operational may be a fluke, may be by careful design. It could be that at the moment the software doesn't even resemble a 1.3.9 set of software, maybe it does. Anyways, regardless of what someone says for the most part, what if they're wrong? Is that important for you to know that answer or to ideally operate according to the posted known guidelines?

31 Mar 2015, 1:30 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

mc12345678 ... no longer reply.

If anyone is running 1.3.9h with higher versions of PHP and MySQL please let me know. Thanks.

31 Mar 2015, 1:45 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

Uh oh, there went my birthday.

31 Mar 2015, 2:43 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

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mc12345678 ... no longer reply.

If anyone is running 1.3.9h with higher versions of PHP and MySQL please let me know. Thanks.Most installations won't work correctly without LOTS of (custom) patches being required to get a stable operating website.

I suspect you won't get many replies because it is simpler (and far, far, far less time wasting) to updgrade the zen cart to a version that is designed to work on these more recent versions of php and mysql than to try to back port patches to get an earlier version to work

mc12345678:

Uh oh, there went my birthday.
Ahhh... I'll give you a "Happy Birthday" :D
(Some just don't want to listen to good advice)

31 Mar 2015, 10:08 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

gilby:

.....

Ahhh... I'll give you a "Happy Birthday" :D
(Some just don't want to listen to good advice)

Sad but oh so true

31 Mar 2015, 12:55 PM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

travbacon:

No one is reading the question.

Let's dummify the question.

Zen Cart v1.3.9 series is compatible with PHP 5.2.10 thru PHP 5.3.x.
Zen Cart v1.3.9 is compatible with MySQL 4.1.3+ thru 5.1

MY 1.3.9h IS CURRENTLY RUNNING ON A SERVER WITH
PHP Version: 5.4.19
MySQL 5.1.73

BOTH HIGHER THAN THE REQ STATED

WITHOUT BRINGING ZC 1.5.4 INTO THE PICTURE. WHILE RUNNING 1.3.9h CAN I UPGRADE MYSQL TO 5.6 AND PHP TO 5.6 WITHOUT AN ISSUES.

THIS IS SO OUR 1.3.9 CAN RUN WITH THE LATEST AND LATER ON MAYBE IN 6 MONTHS WE'LL UPGRADE TO 1.5.4.
To directly answer your question: NO, you cannot upgrade your mySQL and PHP to v5.6 without issues.

You're lucky that your host has only upgraded your PHP version to 5.4.19; there was a change introduced in PHP 5.4.21 that resulted in whitescreens having to to with the SID built-in constant. Zen Cart v1.3.9 uses the PHP mysql_* function interfaces to communicate with the database; those functions were deprecated in PHP 5.5 and removed in v5.6 -- Zen Cart v1.5.3 and later use the PHP mysqli_* function interfaces instead.

31 Mar 2015, 2:00 PM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

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To directly answer your question: NO, you cannot upgrade your mySQL and PHP to v5.6 without issues.

You're lucky that your host has only upgraded your PHP version to 5.4.19; there was a change introduced in PHP 5.4.21 that resulted in whitescreens having to to with the SID built-in constant. Zen Cart v1.3.9 uses the PHP mysql_* function interfaces to communicate with the database; those functions were deprecated in PHP 5.5 and removed in v5.6 -- Zen Cart v1.5.3 and later use the PHP mysqli_* function interfaces instead.

Thanks for backing me up lat9! That is the reason why I suggested to upgrade the site to 1.5.4 in first place.

31 Mar 2015, 2:19 PM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

No problem, Frank. I just wanted to provide the details that the OP was, I believe, looking for in order to make an educated decision regarding the mySQL/PHP/Zen Cart upgrade requirements.

1 Apr 2015, 6:07 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

I happened to run across this thread after learning earlier today that I may have problems. I am running V1.5.1 and was on a server with php version 5.3.10. Everything was working fine. I wanted to upgrade to ZC 1.5.4, but the server could not support another database (old account issues).

So my hosting company moved me to a different server that would support multiple databases, so I could create a "demo" account to test in. We then moved the store over to the new server; things seem to be working OK, but now I find out their server is running php version 5.6.5.PL0-GENT00. What kinds of problems should I be looking for and is it within the realm of reason for me to ask them to turn the php version back to something non-harmful? If so, what kinds of questions should I ask? They didn't tell me ahead to time that the php version was going to change, so I am totally unprepared.

Should I be looking for a new server company? Any ideas?

Please advise.

1 Apr 2015, 6:46 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

Just wanted to add that most stuff is working, but Apsona blew up and my SSL cert ain't cert'ing. So I wonder what other problems I've got but just haven't seen yet....

Any input is greatly appreciated.

1 Apr 2015, 7:39 AM
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Re: clarification on server requirements needed on zc 1.39h

lat9:

To directly answer your question: NO, you cannot upgrade your mySQL and PHP to v5.6 without issues.

You're lucky that your host has only upgraded your PHP version to 5.4.19; there was a change introduced in PHP 5.4.21 that resulted in whitescreens having to to with the SID built-in constant. Zen Cart v1.3.9 uses the PHP mysql_* function interfaces to communicate with the database; those functions were deprecated in PHP 5.5 and removed in v5.6 -- Zen Cart v1.5.3 and later use the PHP mysqli_* function interfaces instead.

Thanks for actually answering my question and not replying with some moronic answer. That is weird. I had to install php soap to run a mod and was told it would upgrade my php to the latest for cent os 6 which was 5.4.39 which is higher than your stated 5.4.21. the store seems to still work fine.