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25 Sep 2015, 7:05 PM
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Helping Hand?

I'd like to jump in and give you guys a hand with v1.6 development. I saw some open issues on Github. Should I just dive in and sort out issues where needed... or how do you prefer us to help out?

https://github.com/zencart/zencart/issues

And, if I have ideas for new features or need to report bugs, then where should I do that? I saw some forum threads on here, but I assume it's better to report issues on Github instead?

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29 Sep 2015, 9:17 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

No response from anyone? Is it safe to assume that you don't need any help then?

If that is not the case, then please let me (and others) know how we can lend a hand.

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29 Sep 2015, 9:30 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

So I saw the OP and flagged it to follow, interested. In whatever direction it would/could take... As a contributor in my own way I would say it is contrary to think that open source software doesn't need the assistance of others... That said, I believe there are posts, possibly in the forum associated with ZC 1.6.0 or I have seen elsewhere a post about how to "jump onboard" with the collaboration to support the release and development of this version. One of the actions I think was to PM DrByte and a second individual that I don't want to errantly state and cause issues... Two names come to mind, but because I am not sure, leave it to the above...

If you take a look at some of the recent discussions in the bugs section, there is some description/explanation at least on addressing some of the issues... Further, I am aware that there is some location at which there is "healthy" discussion about resolving issues and plans for ZC 1.6.0... Being busy with other things, I personally have not sought to get involved yet as I have plenty on my plate for the current state and trying to offer what computer time I have to accomplish that let alone dig into the next level.

Hopefully you can turn that desire to do something into stepping up and doing so... As is sometimes said, give it a shot, if a mistake is made learn from it and move on, backup and restore as necessary. :)

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29 Sep 2015, 9:54 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

More information is available at the forum post: Zen Cart GitHub Repository

I'd say "go for it". And remember to be patient after submitting a pull request (can sometimes take awhile for enough people to review the changes - which is required before they are accepted).

I would suggest letting others know if you decide to take on a particular change (on GitHub). I'd also recommend creating create unit (and other) tests early in the process.

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29 Sep 2015, 10:29 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

Thanks for your replies. I did browse around the forum to find answers, but I found conflicting info since Dr Byte asked for bug reports via the forum on his "sticky" post, but I see a lot of discussion and reported issues on Github. So I wanted to get a read on the latest and greatest before putting my hands into the wrong pie.

Thanks also for the link to the Github thread. I hadn't seen that before... perhaps it would help to make that "sticky" so it stays visible to developers. It is a couple years old, so I'm hoping that it is still relevant. I just found this one too which outlines the steps to become a Contributor:
https://www.zen-cart.com/showthread.php?213895-Github-Collaboration

So I'll dive into Github and see how it goes. It would be great if one of the main contributors could comment on this thread to be sure we're all on the right page. I'm sure it would confirm things for a lot of other people that are interested in helping too.

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29 Sep 2015, 10:44 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

jackie.taferner:

Thanks for your replies. I did browse around the forum to find answers, but I found conflicting info since Dr Byte asked for bug reports via the forum on his "sticky" post, but I see a lot of discussion and reported issues on Github. So I wanted to get a read on the latest and greatest before putting my hands into the wrong pie.

Thanks also for the link to the Github thread. I hadn't seen that before... perhaps it would help to make that "sticky" so it stays visible to developers. It is a couple years old, so I'm hoping that it is still relevant. I just found this one too which outlines the steps to become a Contributor:
https://www.zen-cart.com/showthread.php?213895-Github-Collaboration

So I'll dive into Github and see how it goes. It would be great if one of the main contributors could comment on this thread to be sure we're all on the right page. I'm sure it would confirm things for a lot of other people that are interested in helping too.

Well, not sure which sticky is referenced in the first paragraph, but I would hazard to guess that it is more in reference to bugs of currently released versions or possibly issues in 1.6.0 that affect earlier versions as well (at least affecting the latest released version). As to response to this thread, maybe one will come from the core group, but if you have read through some/many of the github issues you ought to see that lhungil is one that is somehow (related to having the time) one of the contributors. :) so, I'd take his advise on that aspect in a heart beat.

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29 Sep 2015, 11:25 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

mc12345678:

Well, not sure which sticky is referenced in the first paragraph

It's the "sticky" at the top of the Code Collaboration forum, "pre-release feedback for 1.5". I see no reference to pre-release feedback for 1.6 anywhere.
https://www.zen-cart.com/forumdisplay.php?164-Code-Collaboration

There's a forum dedicated to v1.6 bugs, but again this seems outdated compared to Github issues, and there's no "official" announcement as to which way to go.
https://www.zen-cart.com/forumdisplay.php?165-ZCDEV-v160-Development-Bugs

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30 Sep 2015, 10:31 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

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30 Sep 2015, 10:52 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

Wonderful, thanks Dr Byte! This is very helpful.

I'll browse through the docs and help wherever I can.

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1 Oct 2015, 2:30 AM
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Re: Helping Hand?

If those links give you an error then try:

https://github.com/zencart/documentation

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1 Oct 2015, 3:25 PM
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Re: Helping Hand?

frank18:

If these links give you an error then try...
Are you getting an error?

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2 Oct 2015, 8:19 AM
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Re: Helping Hand?

DrByte:

Are you getting an error?

Yep, in Firefox I am getting

Unable to connect

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at docs.zen-cart.com
And in Chrome:

This web page is not available

ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

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