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19 Mar 2016, 15:13
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How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

I'm looking to remove the mobile version of the responsive_classic template as I absolutely hate mobile websites they're awful

19 Mar 2016, 15:37
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

First of all, the "mobile" version as you have referred to it is only visible when that theme is displayed... So if you don't want your website to be responsive (contrary to almost all current "public" suggestions), then stick with the classic contemporary site.

But I would advise, is your site for you to navigate, index, and make purchases? Or your customers, search engines, and your customers?

19 Mar 2016, 15:47
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

Like mc12345678 indicated, you can keep the "Classic Contemporary Green" template by (a) selecting that template via your admin's Tools->Template Selection and then (b) ***Tools->Layout Boxes Controller ***(where you'll "reset" the settings for the just-selected template).

No need to delete any files!

19 Mar 2016, 15:57
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

I like the freshness of the responsive on the laptop but the phone version like all mobile sites sucks just wondering if i can disable that part of the theme.

19 Mar 2016, 16:22
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

sussed it

19 Mar 2016, 18:24
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

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Whatever you did (which btw there is an entire thread on the ZC 1.5.5 responsive theme), be sure that you take a look at compatibility with other devices in particular those that offer both portrait and landscape views. Depending on which way you like it, you may have to go further with disablement or may have to touch up aspects of it.

19 Mar 2016, 19:15
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

vvomble:

I'm looking to remove the mobile version of the responsive_classic template as I absolutely hate mobile websites they're awful

Your personal preference will be the downfall of your business presence.

vvomble:

I like the freshness of the responsive on the laptop but the phone version like all mobile sites sucks just wondering if i can disable that part of the theme.

There is only 1 correct way to do this and as the author of the code I won't be offering my helping hand for I think you are very disrespectful towards the people that spent their time in creating an awesome template for those of us that understand business and what our customers want and realize that the internet will make or break those still stuck in the 90's.

As always, just my blunt opinion.

20 Mar 2016, 12:25
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

rbarbour:

Your personal preference will be the downfall of your business presence.

There is only 1 correct way to do this and as the author of the code I won't be offering my helping hand for I think you are very disrespectful towards the people that spent their time in creating an awesome template for those of us that understand business and what our customers want and realize that the internet will make or break those still stuck in the 90's.

As always, just my blunt opinion.

No disrespect intended it's mobile sites in general. I said the same about flash and that's slowly disappearing thankfully. mobile sites are like switching from full fat coke to coke zero it's just not as good.

22 Mar 2016, 02:47
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

rbarbour:

Your personal preference will be the downfall of your business presence.

There is only 1 correct way to do this and as the author of the code I won't be offering my helping hand for I think you are very disrespectful towards the people that spent their time in creating an awesome template for those of us that understand business and what our customers want and realize that the internet will make or break those still stuck in the 90's.

As always, just my blunt opinion.

What about those that truly needs to turn it off? I've looked at my site with the phone on 1.5.4 and it looked great, updated to 1.5.5 with the responsive them (mobile version if you will) and the images overlap each other and nothing aligns the right way. I would prefer that it would load normally when viewed on a phone, just the same way it does on a computer. The admin mobile version works great! I would just want to turn off the catalog side so the images (and links) don't overlap.

22 Mar 2016, 05:15
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

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No disrespect intended it's mobile sites in general. I said the same about flash and that's slowly disappearing thankfully. mobile sites are like switching from full fat coke to coke zero it's just not as good.

FWIW, I'm pretty much with you in this regard. I positively hate/detest the whole idea of 'responsive templates' and/or other similar technologies. Where possible on my mobile devices I'll pretty much always invoke the 'desktop view'

In my view it goes against the reason why **Tim Berners-Lee ** invented HTML in the 1st place. Prior to this any/all formatting was embedded into documents using any one of a dozen different formats, much like word processors. There was no conformity between them and unless viewed with the software that created them, the pages/documents looked sh!t.

Tim had a great idea with HTML, it provided a simple markup language that wasn't specific to any particular machine or device. The devices themselves handled the formatting (or 'look' of the pages/documents). OK, so the pages/text/documents didn't look the same with every device, but at least they all had the same information.

Then came along this idea of 'responsive templates', which basically means 'Hey, lets provide different data for different devices'. IOW, pretty much back to how things were before Tim came along to simplify things. In fact things are worse now for web page developers/designers than they were before. Not only do we have to contend with different markups for different devices, those devices can use any one of a number of different WebBrowsers, and each will render a page slightly differently. IMO its a real mess.

Having said that, and as has been pointed out several times, we don't/shouldn't be developing stores for ourselves, in order to be competitive we need to satisfy our customers needs, and apparently these customers are 'demanding' a design that looks and works well on their specific device. I've highlighted apparently because that seems to be the consensus among most web developers. I've not seen any empirical evidence that the end customers actually care either way. I have statistical data that indicates that while it is true the number of visitors to a site using mobile devices are increasing each year this isn't being reflected in actual sales. My assumption being that people are using mobile devices to browse, for the actual purchases they come back to a desktop.

Anyway, the real purpose of this post is let you know that you are not alone with your views/opinion.
The world needs dissidents like us. We can't all be sheep. :-)

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22 Mar 2016, 12:53
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

I have to agree with rbarbour on this. With technology the way it has grown and the fact that a majority of shoppers use phones or tablets while on the go, responsive/mobile design is the way to go. I have seen sites that have stayed in non mobile design and loose their shirts due to lack of convenience while shopping. Those that have gone the responsive route most times (not always) see their sales driven upwards greatly. In the end it really is the clients preference. However I personally try to get my clients to go responsive. Just my own personal opinion here.

22 Mar 2016, 17:59
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

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What about those that truly needs to turn it off? I've looked at my site with the phone on 1.5.4 and it looked great, updated to 1.5.5 with the responsive them (mobile version if you will) and the images overlap each other and nothing aligns the right way. I would prefer that it would load normally when viewed on a phone, just the same way it does on a computer. The admin mobile version works great! I would just want to turn off the catalog side so the images (and links) don't overlap.

If one truly doesn't want the mobile version, I suggest using the non-responsive classic legacy template.

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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

Well, this is certainly an interesting thread. There seems to be more in-fighting than constructive advice. In staying (or trying to) on topic however, I personally think responsive has a good place in the world of today, but with zc157b and responsive classic on my device there are issues that nobody seems to be able to advise me thru and it really isn't something I want my customers to see and experience. Unless somehow I figure out a way to make it what I need I also want to completely disable it. My business is not coding or writing web pages, I just do that from shear outright necessity and thus struggle thru every line like a bull in in a slaughter house trying to escape. I'm deeply fearful that changing the template at this point will have a destructive effect on almost everything I've managed to accomplish, from format to colors to functionality. There's a reason that when you go to my site, https://www.thercrv.com you can easily see it's responsive classic..... because I'm not in that business. When you view it on your phone you get that doggone Sidebox with links to my blog and such at the top of the page where it doesn't belong and in the menu you'll see there aren't any links in the "Important Links" that show on the full version, categories have a useless number displaying just to tell you how many of them there are. I was able to rearrange the links in the Information box with a short tip from DrByte, which were all mixed up because the responsive version for some reason doesn't communicate well with the desktop version formatting or content. If money weren't such an issue still at this point, I'd hire one of the "pros" to fix it, alas that luxury isn't available to me at this juncture. I found this thread trying to figure out if I had an option to just disable it...So, if it worked right, responsive would be great, needed and, I'm sure, used by more customers on their small devices than those customers on full size devices using the full version.

02 Feb 2021, 08:12
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

and, a truly "responsive" responsive template would respond to the device being turned sideways as well as vertically, just another comprehensive observation.

As a thought: If the developer isn't easily and unnecessarily offended and had an interest in improving and perfecting his/her handiwork, they would take the on-topic comments in this thread as constructive criticism and the product would become something that fits with current and emerging technologies that website owners and our customers would appreciate using. Egos really don't belong in the real world anyway.

02 Feb 2021, 14:02
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

The beauty of open source is that you are perfectly free to take anything and "make it yours". You can choose to share or not. It's up to you. If you find it here, someone was good enough to share. That doesn't mean they sign a contract to continue the project through any future changes in PHP, mySQL, or ZC. The origginator of responsive_classic has not been on the forum for six months. No one is required to show up on any schedule or participate at any level of support. Not even the devs.

Just remember that the forum is nothing but volunteers. The plugins are volunteered for your use. Help is volunteered better here than any other forum I have been (or am) a part of.

Folks volunteer to help and guide and, occasionally, a situation will peak someone's interest and they may suggest snippets of code to assist you in your quest.

It's also good to remember that no one has volunteered to do the job for you. Folks here prefer to help those who help themselves. And, not every plugin you see here comes with any guarantee as the e-commerce world changes daily.

Just sayin':not bustiin'

02 Feb 2021, 17:22
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Re: How do I completely remove mobile version of responsive_classic?

dbltoe:

The beauty of open source is that you are perfectly free to take anything and "make it yours". You can choose to share or not. It's up to you. If you find it here, someone was good enough to share. That doesn't mean they sign a contract to continue the project through any future changes in PHP, mySQL, or ZC. The origginator of responsive_classic has not been on the forum for six months. No one is required to show up on any schedule or participate at any level of support. Not even the devs.

Just remember that the forum is nothing but volunteers. The plugins are volunteered for your use. Help is volunteered better here than any other forum I have been (or am) a part of.

Folks volunteer to help and guide and, occasionally, a situation will peak someone's interest and they may suggest snippets of code to assist you in your quest.

It's also good to remember that no one has volunteered to do the job for you. Folks here prefer to help those who help themselves. And, not every plugin you see here comes with any guarantee as the e-commerce world changes daily.

Just sayin':not bustiin'

LOL, I know you're not "bustiin" em dbltoe! I appreciate your candor. I'm the same way and it often gets me into trouble. Bear in mind I'm not trying to bust 'em either.

But, in the world today, one bad apple spoils an entire crop. There's a huge difference between development and implementation - I don't have the skills of development and can only provide insight from the implementation stand point. When both of these distinct operators work together, a great product is born. When one or the other fails, so does that product. If a developer is unable for any reason to work with implementation, that development attempt should be replaced, be it by removal of the product or taken up by other competent developers. Same for the implementation team. I have learned an immense amount about your world of development through outstanding advice from a couple of sources within the development teams on here, and have worked my way through some incredibly difficult issues with their awesome help. It would be a shame to see all those good apples go to waste just because one of them went bad. All I ever ask for is to be pointed in the right direction, not to have one of your teammates rewrite my pages. Zencart is a great product, of course it has it's flaws from the implementation view, but if we all work together and each provide, it will become even greater. It isn't fair to you, or those that have a genuine interest in making it better, to have that one bad apple in the basket with you. It starts to reflect on the overall product in a negative way.