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14 Jan 2021, 2:27 AM
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Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

After dbltoe pointed out a number of aspects in my site's poor performance a while ago I have done a lot of work improving my performance score from the 60's to 94 on Desktop and about 82 on Mobile (Lighthouse). There are a few reasons Mobile has a lower score but it is Mobile that Google is centering on and it is the one that concerns me, and many others, going forward.

In addition to improvements I've made in Accessibility, Best Practices and SEO done to achieve a score of 94 on desktop, to improve the Mobile performance requires a lot more 'structural' modifications, at the top of the list are things like minifying css and js and deferring unnecessary css and js until after the LCP (Largest Contentful Paint) which is the prime factor used to generate the score - of course the LCP is reliant of FCP and other aspects but apparently related to css and js factors mentioned above. It is apparently such in some cases that only portions of a css or js file need to be deferred until after FCP.

So I have read a lot about this but things like deferring files or parts thereof is far beyond my pay grade.

My questions relate to say ZC v1.5.7 - are the things mentioned above taken care of to some degree in this version and/or is there any work being done to improve these factors in upcoming versions - and is there some mechanism that may be incorporated whereby users can manipulate these factors without breaking the core? (moreso with js than css I would think). How any of this can be achieved within the ZC framework I have no idea whatsoever.

Interested to get some feedback.

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14 Jan 2021, 5:27 AM
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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

Minifying:
You can minify your own JS and CSS files using any online minifier tool, and replace the corresponding files in your template.

(Some folks might suggest a rotten ancient plugin for minifying inline. I recommend avoiding it unless you 100000% understand its inner workings and are prepared for the pain it causes during upgrades or just when troubleshooting something that's broken.)

Deferred loading:
Once you figure out exactly all the CSS and JS that ONLY is used for drawing the page's viewport, you can easily split the content into separate files and write slightly adapted PHP to load the "deferred" stuff later on the page. Telling it to load it later / defer is the easy part.
Isolating only the "above the fold" (viewport) content ... which is different on each page ... is the hardest challenge. And it's absolutely different for each site, let alone for each template and for each possible arrangement of sideboxes and content boxes and category-tabs and what products and categories are avaialble, oh and each storeowner's concept of header and navigation components. On both desktop and mobile.
In short, they're looking for an app, not a website, and something that is basically all driven by something like React or other component-based JS front-end tool.

Can it be done? Sure. Easily? No.
Done in a way that magically works universally for every situation from one core install base? Send me lots of money and I'll set aside time to try. Actually triple it, cuz it's gonna take awhile.
Is it on radar? Yes. But as I say, it's complex and requires a lot of time which conflicts with making-a-living time. And it could possibly create upgrade pain.

Quicker wins:

  • delete any plugins you don't really need, especially all those that added more javascript and ajax to your site
  • delete any jscript files you're not actually using
  • delete any CSS you're not actually using
  • optimize all your images so they're compressed as much as possible without losing usefulness
  • focus on core SEO factors like solid content
  • research and understand what your competitors are doing, and why, and do better than them (in terms of content/etc, not in terms of template/css/etc)

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14 Jan 2021, 7:22 AM
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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

Many thanks for your response DrByte - so I wasn't having a whinge, just putting feelers out per se, and I didn't expect it would be easy at all. I have used Chrome Developer to find the components of css and js files that are specifically required for FCP and it is not necessarily a clear cut delineation, and yes it varies from page to page and so on, as you rightly pointed out. To boot there isn't very much useful information in search online either on how to achieve what Google expects other than Nike (just do it), and I'm certainly not clever enough to figure it out.

I have done indeed ALL of the things on your 'Quicker Wins' list - spent half a lifetime compressing images - converted hundreds of gif images to webp but as you pointed out to me not long ago some browsers still don't resolve webp .... so reconverted back to jpg this time. I have minified stylesheet.css (but not other css files), deleted unused plugins and deleted javascript not being used (some deletions created error warnings as they were template related and not plugin related - things I didn't need like 'slide-out').

So having done all of that, the mobile performance score is still not in the 'good' range and Google Searh Console states I have no good url's in Core Web Vitals because FCP is over 2.5 seconds in mobile (actual 1.3s in desktop)... without a logo image at all is making no difference to mobile FCP so I started wondering if code played a part.

So hence my query in case there was something structural I could modify that might be useful - I'm not sure how much an old template would contribute and years of half-assed modifications. I suppose I'll find that out when I upgrade to 1.5.7 and use the standard ZC responsive template. Your response does confirm to me that I can upgrade to 1.5.7 and not sit back for the next version that may have had some fixes.

So again thanks for your response - as always it was very enlightening ... and yes the latest Algorithm update reinforced that quality content is still king.

cheers, Mike

p.s. my main competitors have far worse mobile speeds than me, the main one gets a fail in Lighthouse so it is obvious that it counts for nothing yet .... just preparing.

14 Jan 2021, 4:06 PM
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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

Since being mentioned in the OP, I'll reiterate some things I've said in the past.

Should you move to version 1.#.#? Do you want the most current compliance with browsers, PHP, databases, CSS, HTML, accessibility, etc.? Does it make sense that at least some effort was made to improve the operation/compliance/optimization of the product? Certainly the developers didn't put the time in just to get more money from you when you upgrade. Maybe they'll run a special on 1.5.7c. What's 20% off of free?

As far as minifying, I recently found a site that is actually a little more accurate than W3C. beautifytools.com has a little bit of everything and more than you should ever need. I hesitate to point it out as you will probably want to use them all.:P

As DrByte alludes to, and I have pointed out before, there are many things that can be done in the beginning that are more productive than worrying about CSS minification. Load the software, enter categories, select/adjust images, add payment method, add shipping method if not free, sell. Little else is required to sell a product. Yet, we find those that refuse to open a store stocked with product until the decorations are up on the store wall. The cash register can be a fanny pack as far as sales are concerned. What is the goal? Best looking site or increase in sales?

A lot of effort went into making the responsive_classic template score nearly perfect 100s out of the box. It does get a lower score in Performance because the stylesheets are purposely separated to assist you in modifying your "look". Minifying the stylesheets (after a clone for backup) could easily give 1.5.7x a hundred across the board.

The biggest thing I see on your site is accessibility. It currently scores below 80 for your home page. One of them is form elements not having labels. Guess what? Fixed in 1.5.7. You wouldn't notice that it is the label for the search you are not showing on your site. Even if you hide something, it is often still generated and evaluated regardless if the final outcome is display:none. So, the search form you don't use is counting against you as well as some other hidden items with h tags in them. One of your accessibility hits is from h tags not logically progressing. Hiding an h2 tag while still using h3 and h4 OR using h1, h2, and h4 will get you a hit in accessibility.

Your biggest hit in accessibility is a result of making sure the site is as pretty as you want it. You have four contrast errors. Two of the main ones are your Home and Log In links.:( You talk about Chrome tools. Try the Validate Accessibility tool to see how it shows the contrast and h problems.

I hesitate to point this out as I don't really want to channel RodG but, I'm going to throw caution to the winds and once again try to steer you away from make it right to make it work. I've stated before that I thought you were jumping on your horse and riding off in every direction. Maybe now you are able to better see where I and DrByte are coming from.

I'll leave you with one last comment that, I believe, best illustrates where you are going astray. It also strengthens my point of looking at basics.

When looking at your site on the latest iPad mini in portrait, the login link area is almost completely covered by other information. Looking at the site on a recent iPhone (portrait) all looks fine except for a small blank square in the upper-left corner of the site. Initially, you'd think it is a check box but, that's not the case. What it actually is is the placeholder for another item you've chosen not to display. The British flag. I'm not sure about other phones but, the emulator I use for testing proudly displays the British flag for all to see.

If you were to simply put the right flag in the right place, you could maybe get rid of a lot on your main page that is keeping surfers from quickly finding product. Seems you like to stress the Australian part a bit.:P

You're what I refer to as the Subject Matter Expert (SME) and, rightfully, you should be. It's just that the SME is not always the best choice to develop the site. Too often we see either end of the spectrum. Either so much information that one can't absorb it all or so little that we are left wondering about the basics of the product.

Let's look at the Unique Artisan Designs Unique category. One thing that is NOT unique is the use of the word unique. The word is used fifteen times on that page alone. Four times with the * surroundings.:ohmy: Harmony is used 57 times on that page. At some point, the SEs are going to believe that unique AND harmony are actually commonplace.:no: Searching Google for harmony ball necklace results in over three million hits! You don't need an algorithm to figure that "uniqe" may be a stretch unless you can REALLY prove it. When you do this, what the SEs see is what used to be the SEO trick of putting lots of keywords in a product's description to "attract" the SEs attention. Even though the SEs don't weigh keywords like they used to, they still drop your rank for "stuffing". It's just not content they want to promote. As DrByte said, look at the competition. Ask ten friends and ten enemies to honestly evaluate your site. Actually judge your site by what they tell you. Do that as many times as possible.

On the same category page, use your Web Developer to disable images. That's what the SEs see when accessing your site. If the SE can make a determination of your site like that, why do you need to take up nearly 50% of every page with the logo?

I'll leave at this point and hope you will take it as constructive versus destructive.

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14 Jan 2021, 11:29 PM
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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

dbltoe:

Since being mentioned in the OP, I'll reiterate some things I've said in the past.

Should you move to version 1.#.#? Do you want the most current compliance with browsers, PHP, databases, CSS, HTML, accessibility, etc.? Does it make sense that at least some effort was made to improve the operation/compliance/optimization of the product? Certainly the developers didn't put the time in just to get more money from you when you upgrade. Maybe they'll run a special on 1.5.7c. What's 20% off of free?

As far as minifying, I recently found a site that is actually a little more accurate than W3C. beautifytools.com has a little bit of everything and more than you should ever need. I hesitate to point it out as you will probably want to use them all.:P

As DrByte alludes to, and I have pointed out before, there are many things that can be done in the beginning that are more productive than worrying about CSS minification. Load the software, enter categories, select/adjust images, add payment method, add shipping method if not free, sell. Little else is required to sell a product. Yet, we find those that refuse to open a store stocked with product until the decorations are up on the store wall. The cash register can be a fanny pack as far as sales are concerned. What is the goal? Best looking site or increase in sales?

A lot of effort went into making the responsive_classic template score nearly perfect 100s out of the box. It does get a lower score in Performance because the stylesheets are purposely separated to assist you in modifying your "look". Minifying the stylesheets (after a clone for backup) could easily give 1.5.7x a hundred across the board.

The biggest thing I see on your site is accessibility. It currently scores below 80 for your home page. One of them is form elements not having labels. Guess what? Fixed in 1.5.7. You wouldn't notice that it is the label for the search you are not showing on your site. Even if you hide something, it is often still generated and evaluated regardless if the final outcome is display:none. So, the search form you don't use is counting against you as well as some other hidden items with h tags in them. One of your accessibility hits is from h tags not logically progressing. Hiding an h2 tag while still using h3 and h4 OR using h1, h2, and h4 will get you a hit in accessibility.

Your biggest hit in accessibility is a result of making sure the site is as pretty as you want it. You have four contrast errors. Two of the main ones are your Home and Log In links.:( You talk about Chrome tools. Try the Validate Accessibility tool to see how it shows the contrast and h problems.

I hesitate to point this out as I don't really want to channel RodG but, I'm going to throw caution to the winds and once again try to steer you away from make it right to make it work. I've stated before that I thought you were jumping on your horse and riding off in every direction. Maybe now you are able to better see where I and DrByte are coming from.

I'll leave you with one last comment that, I believe, best illustrates where you are going astray. It also strengthens my point of looking at basics.

When looking at your site on the latest iPad mini in portrait, the login link area is almost completely covered by other information. Looking at the site on a recent iPhone (portrait) all looks fine except for a small blank square in the upper-left corner of the site. Initially, you'd think it is a check box but, that's not the case. What it actually is is the placeholder for another item you've chosen not to display. The British flag. I'm not sure about other phones but, the emulator I use for testing proudly displays the British flag for all to see.

If you were to simply put the right flag in the right place, you could maybe get rid of a lot on your main page that is keeping surfers from quickly finding product. Seems you like to stress the Australian part a bit.:P

You're what I refer to as the Subject Matter Expert (SME) and, rightfully, you should be. It's just that the SME is not always the best choice to develop the site. Too often we see either end of the spectrum. Either so much information that one can't absorb it all or so little that we are left wondering about the basics of the product.

Let's look at the Unique Artisan Designs Unique category. One thing that is NOT unique is the use of the word unique. The word is used fifteen times on that page alone. Four times with the * surroundings.:ohmy: Harmony is used 57 times on that page. At some point, the SEs are going to believe that unique AND harmony are actually commonplace.:no: Searching Google for harmony ball necklace results in over three million hits! You don't need an algorithm to figure that "uniqe" may be a stretch unless you can REALLY prove it. When you do this, what the SEs see is what used to be the SEO trick of putting lots of keywords in a product's description to "attract" the SEs attention. Even though the SEs don't weigh keywords like they used to, they still drop your rank for "stuffing". It's just not content they want to promote. As DrByte said, look at the competition. Ask ten friends and ten enemies to honestly evaluate your site. Actually judge your site by what they tell you. Do that as many times as possible.

On the same category page, use your Web Developer to disable images. That's what the SEs see when accessing your site. If the SE can make a determination of your site like that, why do you need to take up nearly 50% of every page with the logo?

I'll leave at this point and hope you will take it as constructive versus destructive.

Hello dbltoe,

Thank you very much for the time and effort you have put into responding with such great advice ... and again you are spot on, on every count.

I have hesitated far too long to upgrade - I suppose it is because I have yet to do any upgrade in nearly 10 years that didn't stuff up and cause me grief. At the end of the day I just have to get on with it.

You're right, in an attempt to make my sites impacting I have chopped and changed the template, without really knowing what I was doing, to a point where no two sites are the same structure and none is smooth flowing - they're full of corruption.

Your comment about basics, as DrByte also suggested, is finally getting through to me (believe it or not) - the recent big algorithm update in October highlighted a term I read so much about years ago that I continued to swerve around when it suited me because I was focusing on appearance of my sites ... 'Content is King'. Dazzlerscliponearrings went from #2 in key searches to #6 overnight and has languished there, it is a reasonable site but critically it has very poor content of low quality, just 'filler' of reworked same old same old .... whilst Harmonyball.net.au, for years a good ranking site went to #1 accross all main search terms because it has a lot of authoratative content, a lot of 'unique' content (there is that word again) that competitors and bloggers are reworking for their content - the articles fill #1 slot followed by the site index.

Yet both sites suffer the same 'mike syndrome', corrupted templates and a lot of structural issues. Google, at least at this point, is putting less emphasis, or is more tolerant of, structural incorrectness (likely due to it and browser technology being able to cope with such things), than the basics ... and one key basic of quality content.

So I will take a fresh look at 1.5.7 'out of the box' and look to modify as little as is absolutely necessary (selling to women so it does need to have certain aesthetic appeal / impact) and concentrate on working on content.

..... and yes the Don Quixote tag is most appropriate. I have to work at shaking it off. :(

You raised the header tags issue - one that I have tried to solve without success;
a) depending on who you read on the subject using a h1 tag on the page is right or it is wrong - I choose to use h1 for the on-page title
b) then a h2 sub header
c) I use the editable centerbox plugin to add content blocks (main page mainly) and it will not allow the use of a h3 tag so as to follow the h tag order - I can insert a h3 tag but it shows up as invisible and just whitesapce on the page ... maybe I have to learn how to add text blocks on a page myself using html or css and not use the plugin.
b) I even stopped using a header in the centerbox and tried to change the h4 tags to h3 in the multi-lingual flexible footer headings to maintain an order but without joy - I can't figure it out.

This is something I should try to get sorted before building the page in 1.5.7 so as not to repeat the problem.

I am always receptive to and appreciative of the advice that you, and DrByte and others, are prepaed to give me. I do listen and absorb, it is just that it can take a while for me to set the wheels in motion.

So after I have re-built these two sites in 1.5.7 I would very much appreciate your critique.

cheers,
Mike

p.s. Just some general comment

I still do struggle with the issue of keyword density or keyword stuffing - the 'experts' have over the years come up with ratios of keyword(s) to total words in a piece of content beyond which you were guilty of excessive density and even stuffing. I watched a Google Webmaster session with John Meuller when the subject was raised - his response was along the lines that there is not ratio(s) and that as long as the content reads flowingly and sensibly to a human then it is likely ok - AI will likely have an influence one day. As you pointed out, I am an SME so in the case of Harmony Balls I do regard myself as an expert, an authority. The problem with writing authoratative content (that is designed to educate) is that it is almost impossible to write a 3000 word article without repeated use of the item being discussed ... except for content writers but then the article would be useless as an educational tool.

Believe me when I say the following has bamboozled me for a long time.

So using harmonyball.net.au as an example of keyword stuffing it flies in the face of convention or accepted SEO practice and yet Google recognizes the site as authorative ... believe me, puzzles the living daylights out of me. As does the number of internal links I use from 'every' product page - between 17-20 internal links (and 3-4 external links to Etsy on some pages), some to the same destination but different anchor text on a page of some 920 words - incidentally about 900 of those words are 'exactly' the same on every product page with only minimal variation describing the specifics of the model and even then that is dubious in that often it is reworked. It maybe adds weight to the theory that header tags are the prime indicator to Google and as long as the heading reflects the content then the H1 and H2 tags used for the content are what Google takes most notice of??

Needless to say I'm reticent to change the way I do this (not that I think you are suggesting I should).

The "unique" ... it is true and can be proven :smile:, albeit I figure you meant proven to Google? .... I actually do make some of these harmony ball products of my own design - I will take a look at those pages and maybe see if I can substitute 'unique' with some other descriptive that is suitable.

p.p.s. with the pandemic obtaining products being shipped from overseas is a real nightmare with the extreme restrictions we have on incoming international flights, customers have been waiting months instead of weeks - hence Australian based and stocked offerings are getting more attention than in previous times with the word Australia attached to search terms getting greater hits - hence pushing the Australian flag etc.

15 Jan 2021, 3:34 AM
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:P It would be interesting to know if you had a twitter account. When it was 144 characters, I bet you had a problem.:yes:

When I am educating someone on the forum, I expound on both the problem AND the solution. Yet I have no problem tweeting. The reason I say this is a general look at your site reveals 178 products and a word count of 40,833 words. Nearly 230 words per product. That doesn't count alt tags, hidden tittles, or word-images. That's actual words produced on all pages of your website. Conversely, another website with 369 products has only 27,462 words. Just shy of 75 words per product. One would think you were doing a thesis for your doctorate rather than explaining a product. Seriously, you are putting folks to sleep before they get to the add to cart.:no:

I just imagine that most folks on the internet realize a URL ending in .au is more than likely to be from Australia. While you think it may be necessary, you may actually be scaring away a lot of sales when they assume price and shipping would be just too much from Australia to their corner of the world. Conversely, if they are pointed to product in the first lines, they may decide they want the item regardless of the shipping cost. So much of your focus is not really on the item for sale.

As to the h tags. I can tell you didn't look at accessibility with the Chrome Web Developers tools are you would have seen and been told the problem. You did a display none on the first h1 on the home page and then proceeded to start the define_main_page with an h1. You'll see the error in this image.
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Just take the h1 from the define_main_page and put it where the missing h1 (Probably the Welcome! h1) and all will be fine for that page.

You talking about browsers munging their way through the mistakes also makes me think you didn't look at the html errors either. Twelve times html errors with (Suppressing further errors from this subtree.) In other words, the render of the site is giving up on that one and moving on to the next item in hopes of finding something that works.

I would suggest you take these things into account, look at https://myzencarthost.com/index.php?rp=/knowledgebase/1/Creating-a-Test-Site-with-cPanel.html, and try to make as minimal a site as possible. Then check it out to see how the CSS, HTML, accessibility, etc. scores out. Fix any little errors and you have a base for bringing in NEEDED mods. Bring them in one at a time AFTER making a backup of the _test directory and the DB. Step through them each time and monitor for log files.

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Thanks again dbltoe - great advice across the board again :smile: - (monitoring log files is one of the many things I didn't do correctly)

... and Yes, I not only chase windmills but I talk a lot :D

I will sort out the H1 tag and take a good look at that knowledgebase article (have a had a quick look). Hopefully in starting afresh with 1.5.7 I can ensure I have conforming html and css from word go.

So with emphasis on the Australia thing - I think this will go some way to explaining the situation :smile: - it has only been done recently. The sites are closed to sales outside of Australia, i.e. shipping is set only for Australian destinations. This is for the duration of the pandemic for the reasons of extremely restricted air traffic into and out of Australia - this restriction began soon after the pandemic began as a government initiative to reduce the risk of the virus getting into the country, which has been very successful. Essentially only repatriation flights are allowed. So not a lot of mail is travelling. Before this situation we could ship a small jewellery item to anywhere in the world for a couple of dollars and delivery would only take 10 days or so - now with the restrictions Australia Post is restricting mail to a category that has a minimum $21.00 price tag with no guarantees of when it will be delivered, apparently averaging 4-5 weeks.

The reverse is also the case, not a lot of product is coming into the country in a timely fashion either and online purchasers are peeved at the excessive delays and in some cases lack of disclosure as to shipping country of origin - (people do not look hard enough).

Needless to say to protect our brand we are not shipping outside of Australia. This has resulted in a revenue drop of about 56% but it is what it is. When air travel returns to normal all the emphasis on Australia will be removed. At present it works in our favor.

I actually have dotcom U.S. hosted website that has been closed to sales (a redirect to an ezpage from add to cart, explaining that we cannot ship from Australia) since April - still ranking at about #5 - another dotcom (AU hosted) with the same scenario, closed for the duration.

The .au url indicator - not too many searchers bother to read the url sandwiched between the bells and whistles meta title and then the come and take a look meta description on a search page.

The heavy wording, there is method in the madness. I would like to think people actually read the information on a product info page but unfortunately in my experience reading product details takes a long, long second place to admiring the pretty picture and the price (for shiny jewellery, many assume too much) so the likelihood of someone reading everything on the product pages on harmonyball.net.au is very remote. I wish more would so that they would know why our product is $50 and handmade in 925 Sterling Silver and the Chinese one from a competitor is $20, simply silver plated and factory produced. We began selling these before the Chinese got into the market and screwed it up - buyers are in the main, ignorant.

This is even more of an issue in the U.S. (when we are open for business that is) - in the U.S. 'Sterling Silver' is very rarely distinguished from just Silver as a descriptive - the assumption is that Silver is 'REAL Silver' (i.e. Sterling) however silver coated or silver plated cheap costume jewellery is described as "silver" and not silver plated or silver coated so customers are attracted to the shiny looks and price and only down the track do they realize it is not what they thought it was, unless they have bothered to read the detail which in many, many cases isd not provided (just the word silver, no explanation). It is the main reason we do not sell on Amazon or eBay - their categorization does not allow for the differentiation and hence the semi-precious metal, Sterling Silver, is thrown in with cheap crap and rarely sells.

So expounding the virtues of the quality of the product may be boring but it is a necessary evil. DazzlersClipOnEarrings.com.au by comparison has an average of only about 190 words vs 650 (using an online counter and likely not as accurate as your app).

Anyway ....

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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

Have begun rebuild of one site in 1.5.7b using standard responsive_classic - see image of Lighthouse report (mobile) - good metrics as promised!

THANKS FOR THE WAKE UP CALL !!! (or slap in the face with a wet fish if you are a Monty Python fan :laugh:)

cheers, Mike

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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

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This is even more of an issue in the U.S. (when we are open for business that is) - in the U.S. 'Sterling Silver' is very rarely distinguished from just Silver as a descriptive - the assumption is that Silver is 'REAL Silver' (i.e. Sterling) however silver coated or silver plated cheap costume jewellery is described as "silver" and not silver plated or silver coated so customers are attracted to the shiny looks and price and only down the track do they realize it is not what they thought it was, unless they have bothered to read the detail which in many, many cases isd not provided (just the word silver, no explanation). It is the main reason we do not sell on Amazon or eBay - their categorization does not allow for the differentiation and hence the semi-precious metal, Sterling Silver, is thrown in with cheap crap and rarely sells.

Hey Mike,

Actually, there is an FTC requirement for items described as "Silver" be a minimum of Sterling or 0.925 unless there is a specific descriptor within immediate vicinity of the word 'silver'. I do not think footnotes qualifies as 'immediate vicinity'. Given that, a person who makes a purchase and discovers that the item is not Sterling, they would immediately win a SNAD complaint. The same goes for GOLD with karat requirements, though the FTC recently changed gold karat labeling requirements.

There is also an FTC requirement that items made of precious metal cannot be labeled 'Made in USA' unless 100% of the precious metal can be proven to be mined in the USA. Not 99.999999%. Therefore, recycled/reclaimed precious metals cannot have the label "Made in USA" because there might be 0.000001% that was originally mined elsewhere in the world. One of the largest precious metal suppliers (a Warren Buffet company) for the jewelry industry lobbied the FTC in behalf of all jewelers here to get the ruling changed, but did not succeed. Recycled steel/iron on the other hand is free to be labeled 'made in USA', regardless of source.

There it is.... the USA trivia for the day.
We go through quite a bit of Sterling wire annually.

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17 Jan 2021, 9:59 PM
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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

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Hey Mike,

Actually, there is an FTC requirement for items described as "Silver" be a minimum of Sterling or 0.925 unless there is a specific descriptor within immediate vicinity of the word 'silver'. I do not think footnotes qualifies as 'immediate vicinity'. Given that, a person who makes a purchase and discovers that the item is not Sterling, they would immediately win a SNAD complaint. The same goes for GOLD with karat requirements, though the FTC recently changed gold karat labeling requirements.

There is also an FTC requirement that items made of precious metal cannot be labeled 'Made in USA' unless 100% of the precious metal can be proven to be mined in the USA. Not 99.999999%. Therefore, recycled/reclaimed precious metals cannot have the label "Made in USA" because there might be 0.000001% that was originally mined elsewhere in the world. One of the largest precious metal suppliers (a Warren Buffet company) for the jewelry industry lobbied the FTC in behalf of all jewelers here to get the ruling changed, but did not succeed. Recycled steel/iron on the other hand is free to be labeled 'made in USA', regardless of source.

There it is.... the USA trivia for the day.
We go through quite a bit of Sterling wire annually.

Very interesting RixStix. There are similar guidelines in many countries around the world - the problem is the awareness of them in a general sense outside of interested parties, (the industry), and then the monitoring and enforceability of such guidelines. Additionally the use of common language terminology has a bearing. Take Amazon and eBay as examples. Neither platform requires sellers to distinguish between merely silver plated or silver filled and Sterling Silver, neither in descriptive terms nor in a materials list, so where is the bite behind any such legislation if it can be flaunted so blatantly. The Chinese deceptively even use the term 925C the C meaning 'coated' - see this article I wrote eons ago (harmonyballs.com/p/articles.html#fake) ... anyway, we just have to deal with the realities :smile:

cheers, Mike

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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

Mike, is the website you just linked to yours? The .com one? If so, you have some hack recovery and malware cleanup to do...

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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

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Mike, is the website you just linked to yours? The .com one? If so, you have some hack recovery and malware cleanup to do...

Hi Leonard - no that isn't mine - for some reason I couldn't fathom at the time the link I wanted would'nt work, it came up with partial url then a bunch of ## -the url should have been ... nope, doing it again. it is a dotblogspot site blog - cannot enen type blogspot followd by .com otherwise it goes gogglygook

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That's not what I meant... Don't worry about the ### - that's just the forum censoring some words and/or links for some reason. I'm talking about the link that you posted in plain text (harmonyballs.com/p/articles.html#fake) which seems to be infected. I'll PM you with a video.

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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

seems url's that contain subdomains are causing security to intervene https://harmonyballs.##########################/p/articles.html

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Re: Google Core Web Vitals - Site Performance Score

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seems url's that contain subdomains are causing security to intervene
The forum blocks word patterns that spammers have typically used to post junk to forums.
Put spaces before all the "." characters, or put spaces in the middle of affected words to avoid those filters. It will make the links unclickable because they will be broken, but a human needing to use the link can assemble it themselves.
And leave out the http:// or https:// prefixes when doing this, because again the link doesn't need to be clickable.

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