pluginID of yet to be submitted encapsulated plugin?

I probably should've wrote this before I submitted a plugin a while ago, but trying to follow along with the guide to the manifests for encapsulated plugins (https://docs.zen-cart.com/dev/plugins/encapsulated_plugins/manifests/) and came up on the definition of the 'pluginId' field.

My question is, what value should go there for a plugin that hasn't been submitted. Should I just use 0 and then update it later?

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I probably should've wrote this before I submitted a plugin a while ago, but trying to follow along with the guide to the manifests for encapsulated plugins (https://docs.zen-cart.com/dev/plugins/encapsulated_plugins/manifests/) and came up on the definition of the 'pluginId' field.

My question is, what value should go there for a plugin that hasn't been submitted. Should I just use 0 and then update it later?
Yep, just use 0 and then update the value once the plugin's submitted.

It's kind of a chicken/egg thing. What I've done in the past is to do an initial submission for version 0.0.0 that's zip file with just the readme to get the plugin ID.