Download section

Hey - imagine this scenario:

The downloads section can be restored within a few minutes and all files made available a few minutes later. (Yes it is true - this could happen)

Then along comes Billy No Brains Hacker and finds the file in which he inserted an exploit which allows him to compromise the server again. Oops - sorry everyone, Zencart.com is offline again and you have to start over. How jolly.

Or imagine this:

Dev team dumps everything back online and don't bother sorting the files. People complain incessantly about this fix and this mod not working with their version of Zencart. Suddenly the Dev team are to blame and the reputation of Zencart suffers.

Both these scenarois are realistic and COULD happen if the Dev team did not care about their project. Luckily they do care and probably are even now poring over the code to get the downloads up and running again.

Be patient and stop complaining, or get your hand in your pocket and pay for a Dev team member to take a day off work (yes they actually have regular jobs too) so they can concentrate on giving you what you want. No? Didn't think so!

(These are my views and not the views of the Dev Team)

Those scenarios are very true but aside from the main point here. What I’m trying to do is create a temporary community based resolution for the problem. As I said in the previous post lets just work together here. Your views are important but ripping me for having a point and an attached solution isn't going to help us here.

Let’s put aside the remarks and clever comments and really nail this one down. Here is the info for the temp download site. Please add any download you think will help the community. I have allotted 15000 gigs of bandwidth for this site.

turn your PMs on quick

There on now

Not sure why you guys want to shoot this down but taking my links out just don't help anyone.

Thanks for the mods Mer.

http://www.zen-cart.com/archived_contributions

WE, THE ZEN CART TEAM TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE INTEGRITY OF THE FILES POSTED IN THE ARCHIVE LISTED ABOVE.

THERE MAY BE MULTIPLE VERSIONS - DON'T ASK US WHICH IS WHICH - WE HAVE NO IDEA.

BUT- YOU WANTED THEM- HAVE AT THEM.

Thank you very very very very much!!!!! Ill take my site down right now.

Note there is a proper Contributions section being worked on and it will be ready very soon- IT will be empty.

We are going to need you to update/upgrade your Contribs and get them back online.

Fantastic! That's excellent! Thank you so much dev team for the temporary fix, thank you cloakendagger for initiating it.

And good that you've made it very clear that we take sole responsibility for anything that should happen as a result of downloading from the archived contributions. I hope this takes some of the pressure off the developers - I imagine you've got enough on your plate at the moment.<offtoplayzen />

Not to burst any bubbles but the temp downloads were made long before cloakendagger ... they were being cleaned ... :blink:

Then thank you to cloakendagger for helping expedite the process.

erm I think cloakanddagger was very rude actually and deserves no thanks. He was twice asked for the contributions he/she needed and ignored the polite request both times. It just seemed that he/she wanted to play with whatever is there and had no real needs.
All the thanks should go to Ajeh and Kim and the rest of the dev team and not to someone who was trying to bully someone into action.
Sorry but this is just the way I see it.

Reesy:

erm I think cloakanddagger was very rude actually and deserves no thanks. He was twice asked for the contributions he/she needed and ignored the polite request both times. It just seemed that he/she wanted to play with whatever is there and had no real needs.
All the thanks should go to Ajeh and Kim and the rest of the dev team and not to someone who was trying to bully someone into action.
Although Cloakendagger's actions, both visible in this thread and elsewhere, suggest that he was committed to trying to be part of a solution, I agree that in this thread that was expressed in an inappropriately and unnecessarily hostile manner, even to those trying to help. I also agree that all thanks should be directed to the Dev Team who were clearly already working on this already, and continue to do so.

Not totally sure how to respond to the above comments about my efforts to gain a solution to the problem. But taking jabs at me after the fact is kind of cheep. You all look at this as a personal attack but in actuality it's just business. Some might have been happy waiting for the actual downloads section to be cleaned and made public, but for me, a developer that has many clients and a lot of money riding on the functionality and structural integrity of Zen Cart its immensely important that results happen relatively quickly.

When I saw people responding with comments like "I'm sure they are doing what is best. So yes, there is a reason. :)"

That didn't show me that anything was being done to accommodate the in actuality large scale need for a temp fix.

I highly doubt that being passive about this issue would have gained any response or immediate solution.

To the many that believe I was rude I truly apologize for how you feel. But in the end there was a solution brought forth regardless of what angle you look at it.

Giving credit is necessary, but it should be given to everyone here that posted and everyone that participates in the zen community that shows there desire to see a better future for zen cart the dev team and the overall success of everyone endevors.

This will be my last post.

I would like to ask two questions:

1. Anyone has a ftp space where we could upload the contributions we have downloads?, then we could use a entry page and point all our webpages to it to make it grow.
2. I've heard Zen cart is a child of OS commerce. I am some experienced in Zen Cart so: would be easy for me to change to OSC?, I mean, all what I have learned in ZC: is the same in OSC?. What are the pros and the disadvantages of this action?.

P.D.: I need an stable alternative to this if not a solution.

Anyway: Thanks for all to the Zen Cart Developpers, hope I do not have to change.

Please look up at kims post,
the old contributions are available the link is posted above in this thread...

What's this? Merlinpa1969 banned?

Nope - he withdrew...but the vast majority of people here would like him to reconsider and return; his help and support has been invaluable to many Zencart usrs, myself included.

Tony - the whole is bigger than the parts around here...and people do care.

the vast majority of people here would like him to reconsider and return; his help and support has been invaluable to many Zencart usrs, myself included.
Tony - the whole is bigger than the parts around here...and people do care.
Totally agree Ryk

Tony - please come back - we need you! You probably don't realise just how often your contributions have been useful to those in the community who couldn't do this Zen thing alone!

Personally when reading throught the forums I know I can rely upon your posts to give accurate information - it has proved invaluable on several occasions.

Bryony

You guys:

Stop fighting - it's not useful.:bangin: