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9 May 2009, 8:57 PM
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kuroi:

It's a big of a guess, but historically we used a funny back apostrophe thingy around fields because some MySQL installations seemed unhappy if we didn't. More recenly I've been hearing of versions that don't like it.

So I'd recommend making a copy of the installation SQL and doing a global find and replace to remove them all, and then try running that file. And please let us know how you get on.

Thanks for your answer.

Actually, what I did was re-download everything and start again. Much the same technique as whacking the TV or kicking your car. But like those techniques it seemed to work. Also, I got right level of swearing which is always important.

Sorry, not to be much help as I don't know why it did not play the game to begin with. But thanks for admin_profiles it does just what I need it to do and now works beautifully.

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9 May 2009, 9:07 PM
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Re: Admin Profiles (for v1.3.x only!) Support Thread

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Now from what I can gather from the instruction (which are VERY confusing by the way) that's all the appropriate steps.

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Where did I go wrong?Sorry that you found the installation instructions confusing. They have been refined with each release based on user feedback. But further constructive suggestions are always welcome.

It is a fairly complex install, which is why it's important to follow the instructions carefully and in order. From your description it sounds as though you first did step 2, then step 3, came back and did step 1, skipped steps 4 and 5 and are now unable to do step 6.

If that's accurate, then there's a big clue as to the problem. Step 1 must be done first. It can't be done after step 2 as Admin Profiles would block you from reaching the Admin > Tools > Install SQL Patches page. So this suggests that you have installed the files in the wrong place, which would also explain why step 6 doesn't work. I recommend checking the precise locations into which you have installed the files, against those helpfully listed for you in step 2 of the instructions.

9 May 2009, 9:09 PM
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Glad you got it working and that it's of benefit.

11 May 2009, 10:32 AM
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Re: Admin Profiles (for v1.3.x only!) Support Thread

Thanks Kuroi, how can I purchase the Pro version? How much?

12 May 2009, 8:58 AM
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kuroi:

You've not done anything wrong here (although it wasn't necessary to install the upgrade SQL). Rather the problem is most likely a restriction in the way that Admin Profiles currently works, which makes it difficult to change language. If you have English installed as a language for your Admin, then if you switch into that the Configuration Menu should work. Alternatively you would need to change the values in the admin-files database table to match exactly the text for each entry in the Configuration drop down menu.

I have a Pro version (paid for and includes installation) which completely reworks the structure with a view to extending it to be multilingual, and adding language will be high on my list of features to trickle down to the community version.

Thanks Kuroi, how can I purchase the Pro version? How much?

12 May 2009, 10:18 AM
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27 May 2009, 12:09 AM
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Re: Admin Profiles (for v1.3.x only!) Support Thread

Hi All,

Just installed Zen Cart, then installed Admin Profiles today.

Everything seems to have installed fine.

Question is: How do I use Admin Profiles module? Is there a tutorial anywhere? How do I create different users? Is there a "How to" for Admin Profiles module?

I can find the above for Zen Cart but I am specifically looking for instructions for Admin Profiles and creating separate users.

I have searched Google, kuroi site, and here...I am at a loss.

Thanks,
Darren

PS. Unimportant background info: I run a non profit website that has 13 community theatres. Some of the theatres are looking for online ticket shopping carts. We thought we could provide that for them. Each want to log on separately and upload or offer tickets. So, instead of categories we will put theatre names.

27 May 2009, 12:19 AM
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Re: Admin Profiles (for v1.3.x only!) Support Thread

It's really easy. just log into admin, go to Tool > Admin Settings

  • to create new user click Insert to add new user
  • click the P icon to edit permissions.
    that's it.
27 May 2009, 12:21 AM
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Re: Admin Profiles (for v1.3.x only!) Support Thread

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How do I use Admin Profiles module? Is there a tutorial anywhere? How do I create different users? Is there a "How to" for Admin Profiles module?You don't create users with Admin Profiles. This is done through the normal Zen Cart route via Admin > Tools > Admin Settings.

If you have Admin Profiles setup correctly, you will also see an orange icon with a "p" and a button that says "Edit Permissions". These are the way into Admin Profiles. Clicking either will allow you to assign permission to that user to see specific menus and access (or not) the particular pages under those menus. If you get to the right place it's very straightforward, though videos are under consideration (since we do that for other things anyway)

dserhal:

Unimportant background info: I run a non profit website that has 13 community theatres. Some of the theatres are looking for online ticket shopping carts. We thought we could provide that for them. Each want to log on separately and upload or offer tickets. So, instead of categories we will put theatre names.Actually rather important background info, since Admin Profiles won't help you to keep them apart as it controls access to Admin Pages not the functions within them.

There is a slightly differently and well-intentioned mod that aimed to do this, but it's full of holes. I did it once properly, but it involved over-writing so many Admin files as to make it unmaintainable. I also have an idea as to how to do it in a maintainable way, but that's a ton of one-off work and won't be happening anytime soon - sorry.

27 May 2009, 12:57 AM
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newagekat:

It's really easy. just log into admin, go to Tool > Admin Settings

  • to create new user click Insert to add new user
  • click the P icon to edit permissions.

that's it.

Wow. That was easy.

I just couldn't find instructions on how to do it.

Thanks so much newagekat.

27 May 2009, 1:07 AM
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kuroi:

You don't create users with Admin Profiles. This is done through the normal Zen Cart route via Admin > Tools > Admin Settings.

If you have Admin Profiles setup correctly, you will also see an orange icon with a "p" and a button that says "Edit Permissions". These are the way into Admin Profiles. Clicking either will allow you to assign permission to that user to see specific menus and access (or not) the particular pages under those menus. If you get to the right place it's very straightforward, though videos are under consideration (since we do that for other things anyway)

Actually rather important background info, since Admin Profiles won't help you to keep them apart as it controls access to Admin Pages not the functions within them.

There is a slightly differently and well-intentioned mod that aimed to do this, but it's full of holes. I did it once properly, but it involved over-writing so many Admin files as to make it unmaintainable. I also have an idea as to how to do it in a maintainable way, but that's a ton of one-off work and won't be happening anytime soon - sorry.

Uh-oh. Ok, so this module isn't really intended for the needs I have?

What I might have to do is set up a Zen Cart and Admin Profiles in a separate folder for each theatre that needs it:

Example:
nwindianatheatre.org/4thStreetTheatre/tix/ <--Cart+AdminProfile here
nwindianatheatre.org/CommunityTheatreGuild/tix/ <--Cart+AdminProfile here
nwindianatheatre.org/HammondCommunityTheatre/tix/ <--Cart+AdminProfile here
etc.

Anyone know of a better solution or am I bordering on asking this is the wrong thread? I thought Admin Profile would do this sort of thing.

27 May 2009, 1:16 AM
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Re: Admin Profiles (for v1.3.x only!) Support Thread

The most straightforward way to tackle this would be to write a customer admin page that allows the theatres to do what you want them to be able to do for their category only, and then use Admin Profiles to restrict them to that page.

27 May 2009, 2:01 AM
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kuroi:

The most straightforward way to tackle this would be to write a customer admin page that allows the theatres to do what you want them to be able to do for their category only, and then use Admin Profiles to restrict them to that page.

Hmmm. How do I "write a customer admin page" that allows them to do what they want?

Maybe I should explain what I am looking for: I want our site to be able to host all 13 member theatres. I need 13 mini-carts under the admin.

So a theatre-goer/customer can come to our site, then go to the shopping cart. They then see all the member theatres listed (I was going to put them in categories). They click on the category of say 4th Street Theatre and see that one of the products is "Fiddler On The Roof July 18th 7pm". They buy that ticket(s). Now 4th Street Theatre can log into their category and see sales. 4th Street Theatre can also go into their category and add tickets(product) for their next production of "Cats". However, I do not want 4th Street Theatre to have the same access to Chicago Street Theatres category where they are adding tickets for "Phantom of the Opera". Does that make any sense?

All of the above should be under the nwindiantheatre.org cart Administrator.

I guess a similar analogy would be how you can have a master email account [email protected] and assign sub-accounts that the sub-account holders can customize. [email protected], [email protected] etc.

It sounded like Admin Profiles could do something like this.

2 Jun 2009, 2:33 PM
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hi I am trying to install the admin profiles.. but I seem to be lost. I see step one wants me to do something with sql.. this is where I'm totally lost. went in my admin/tools/sql and its greek to me.. I have no idea what to put there..

I'm really not such a dummy.. installed the zen and made a few changes but not extensive..

also reading on it first says its an easy drop and drag in filezilla.. then reading further its saying to take each file and individually drop into sections.. I'm lost again

do I just drop and drag the whole thing or do I put like for instance

auto-loaders into admin/autoloaders on ftp
boxes into admin/boxes on ftp

images into admin/ images and so forth

after this in the read me I'm totally lost.. sorry

I have to have this add on as I am scrapbook shop and will be having multiple designers adding their products and I can't have them wondering all over the site.. ya know? lol and besides every other shop I have designed for had this feature and those gals that owned them weren't the brightest lightbulbs in the pack.. how in the heck did they get this installed?? lol

Can someone walk me through this please..

thanks
Cat

12 Jun 2009, 11:05 AM
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not sure what to tell ya, its pretty basic ftp and sql, important thing is to Follow the instructions
It will add New files and overwrite a couple, the 1st thing you should do is BACKUP your site, primarily the admin section and your database because the sql query will add some new tables.
new files wont hurt anything as long as there isnt any existing file with the same name, when it comes to the "pre patched files, it will over write them, all will be fine as long as NO other modifications have been made to these pre patched files.

outlawcat:

hi I am trying to install the admin profiles.. but I seem to be lost. I see step one wants me to do something with sql.. this is where I'm totally lost. went in my admin/tools/sql and its greek to me.. I have no idea what to put there..

I'm really not such a dummy.. installed the zen and made a few changes but not extensive..

also reading on it first says its an easy drop and drag in filezilla.. then reading further its saying to take each file and individually drop into sections.. I'm lost again

do I just drop and drag the whole thing or do I put like for instance

auto-loaders into admin/autoloaders on ftp
boxes into admin/boxes on ftp

images into admin/ images and so forth

after this in the read me I'm totally lost.. sorry

I have to have this add on as I am scrapbook shop and will be having multiple designers adding their products and I can't have them wondering all over the site.. ya know? lol and besides every other shop I have designed for had this feature and those gals that owned them weren't the brightest lightbulbs in the pack.. how in the heck did they get this installed?? lol

Can someone walk me through this please..

thanks
Cat

18 Jun 2009, 11:24 PM
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dserhal:

Hi All,

Just installed Zen Cart, then installed Admin Profiles today.

Everything seems to have installed fine.

Question is: How do I use Admin Profiles module? Is there a tutorial anywhere? How do I create different users? Is there a "How to" for Admin Profiles module?

Yeah, here is a tutorial on adding different user and here is how to use Admin Profile module.

However, what is not explained in the tutorial and is actually my questions for coming here is ...

  1. Why is the "Linkpoint CC Review" menu still visible when I only checkmarked "order" page?

  2. In install instructions says ...

"However, this does not control whether the underlying pages are accessible or not, just whether the user can see them. They could still be accessed by a knowledgeable user entering a URL directly, or by any custom admin page that you choose to build for them."

Is that still true? It seems that when I tried to go to a "hidden url", I can not access it. I got error saying "Sorry your security clearance does not allow access."

This is good actually. But I'm wondering if the instructions are outdated?

18 Jun 2009, 11:45 PM
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  1. Why is the "Linkpoint CC Review" menu still visible when I only checkmarked "order" page?Linkpoint CC Review is not a standard Zen Cart function so it will come with its own box file. STep 4 of the installation instructions explain the need to edit that box file to insert the Admin Profiles code. A separate step-by-step guide explains, with an example, how to do this. In this case it almost certainly hasn't been done. (One of these days when I get a few moments free, I'll package up and release the next version which doesn't require changes to the box files).

artcoder:

  1. In install instructions says ...

"However, this does not control whether the underlying pages are accessible or not, just whether the user can see them. They could still be accessed by a knowledgeable user entering a URL directly, or by any custom admin page that you choose to build for them."

Is that still true? It seems that when I tried to go to a "hidden url", I can not access it. I got error saying "Sorry your security clearance does not allow access."

This is good actually. But I'm wondering if the instructions are outdated?The instructions are correct - merely turning off the menu entry (to which that paragraph refers) will not turn off the page, just hide it. The next paragraph (not quoted here) explains how to turn off the page as well. The Pro version does both in one go, and that feature will trickle down to the free version too when I've got some free time to move it forward.

20 Jun 2009, 3:59 PM
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Re: Admin Profiles (for v1.3.x only!) Support Thread

Hi, I just installed Admin Profiles but when I go to admin > Tools > admin settings, it goes to my catalog instead. What did i do wrong? Please help.

20 Jun 2009, 4:07 PM
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Re: Admin Profiles (for v1.3.x only!) Support Thread

Also found out that all my 3rd party contributions are no longer there.

21 Jun 2009, 3:49 AM
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tried reinstalling with no luck. I don't understand why I can't access admin settings. It keeps going to my catalog homepage. Please help.