Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

DivaVocals:

hello,
my additional images only display if named _1, _2
but IH2 uploads as _01 _02
what file or setting do I need to change so that _01 _02 displays instead of _1, _2
I am using IH2 2.0 rev8. with Zen Cart 1.3.9h

If this is the case, then something is wrong with your install or setup, or maybe even the images.. Links to specific pages and your image settings info would be a big help..

Small Image Width 100
Small Image Height 100
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin 40
Subcategory Image Width 80
Subcategory Image Height 140
Calculate Image Size true
Image Required true
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 84
Image - Shopping Cart Height 89
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 130
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages 137
Top Subcategory Image Width 80
Top Subcategory Image Height 85
Product Info - Image Width 200
Product Info - Image Height
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
Image - Product Listing Width 100
Image - Product Listing Height 100
Image - Product New Listing Width 100
Image - Product New Listing Height 100
Image - New Products Width 100
Image - New Products Height 100
Image - Featured Products Width 100
Image - Featured Products Height 100
Image - Product All Listing Width 100
Image - Product All Listing Height 100
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1

http://www.venturasvisions.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_52&products_id=151

Doesn't look like IH2 is even installed.. Where are your IH specific entries in image configuration??

vandiermen:

Small Image Width 100
Small Image Height 100
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin 40
Subcategory Image Width 80
Subcategory Image Height 140
Calculate Image Size true
Image Required true
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 84
Image - Shopping Cart Height 89
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 130
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages 137
Top Subcategory Image Width 80
Top Subcategory Image Height 85
Product Info - Image Width 200
Product Info - Image Height
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
Image - Product Listing Width 100
Image - Product Listing Height 100
Image - Product New Listing Width 100
Image - Product New Listing Height 100
Image - New Products Width 100
Image - New Products Height 100
Image - Featured Products Width 100
Image - Featured Products Height 100
Image - Product All Listing Width 100
Image - Product All Listing Height 100
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1

http://www.venturasvisions.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_52&products_id=151

DivaVocals:

It's gonna be next to impossible to help you without seeing the site.. Some folks may not mind lobbing guess at problems, but for me with out specifics I don't like entertaining guesses.. Any way you can re-create your development store on a sub-domain so that the community can better help you troubleshoot your issue??

Thanks for your response
Its online and its this page: http://www.goudsmederijshop.nl/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23_24&language=gb

dre:

Thanks for your response
Its online and its this page: http://www.goudsmederijshop.nl/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23_24&language=gb

Okay looking at this really quick it doesn't look like IH2 is "managing" any of your images.. You need to re-read the IH2 readme and make sure you have correctly configured all of your image settings correctly (the readme has detailed guidlines with images to help make it easy to see how things should look), and you also need to make sure you have the correct permissions for your bmz_cache folder. (again see the IH2 readme for guidelines)

Next you need to change the way you have your images organized.. You currently have uploaded separate medium and large images images to the "medium" and "large" image folders. IH2 appears to ignore images when structured this way.

As has been stated many times here (and in the readme) IH2 creates the small and medium product images from your large image. Meaning you only need to upload the LARGEST of your product images to your images folder and let IH2 do the rest. My suggestion is that you remove all the small product images from the "images" folder, delete delete all the product images from your "images/medium" folder and then move all the product images (and/or the directories) in the "images/large" folder to the "images" folder.

So this path:
images/large/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg

becomes this path
images/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg

BUT

Before you do ANY OF THIS, please please please review the readme to make sure you have IH2 configured correctly..

DivaVocals:

Okay looking at this really quick it doesn't look like IH2 is "managing" any of your images.. You need to re-read the IH2 readme and make sure you have correctly configured all of your image settings correctly (the readme has detailed guidlines with images to help make it easy to see how things should look), and you also need to make sure you have the correct permissions for your bmz_cache folder. (again see the IH2 readme for guidelines)

Next you need to change the way you have your images organized.. You currently have uploaded separate medium and large images images to the "medium" and "large" image folders. IH2 appears to ignore images when structured this way.

As has been stated many times here (and in the readme) IH2 creates the small and medium product images from your large image. Meaning you only need to upload the LARGEST of your product images to your images folder and let IH2 do the rest. My suggestion is that you remove all the small product images from the "images" folder, delete delete all the product images from your "images/medium" folder and then move all the product images (and/or the directories) in the "images/large" folder to the "images" folder.

So this path:
images/large/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg

becomes this path
images/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg

BUT

Before you do ANY OF THIS, please please please review the readme to make sure you have IH2 configured correctly..

ITS WORKING !! THank you!!

What I did:

I removed the small images , the _LRG and the _MED images. moved the _LRG images to the images folder.
uploaded the products again but then with the largest image
So it became as you told: images/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg

result: not working

Then i checked again the IH2 configuration: found a mistake there and put in the correction

result: not working

uploaded the products again but then with the smallest image
With FTP uploaded the _MED and _ LRG images

Then it was like before like this:

images/pandora_exclusive/bloem.jpg
images/medium/pandora_exclusive/bloem_MED.jpg
images/large/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg

result : WORKING!!!

I hoped that it would work like you say that you only need the largest image and that IH would do the rest.
It would save me a lot of time to make every image in 3 sizes.
But that option is not working now?

I it maybe that I have to remove the _LRG and _MED form this lines in IH configuration?:

Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG

Anyway its working so at this moment and Im happy already !

Thanks again

I looked at your site and actually IH2 is not working as it should at all..

The ONLY thing working is the on-hover image effect (and it's not working as expected on all of your small images), but IH2 is not doing it's job at all.

Again, IH2 will take the largest product image (which you should have uploaded to your "images" directory) and from this file it generates optimized small, medium and large images and put them into the IH2 bmz_cache folders.. This is not happening for your site at all..

dre:

ITS WORKING !! THank you!!

And this would not work.. Part of the issue is the way you have your images structured and NAMED... You DO NOT use a suffix in the image name. If you do IH2 will ignore the images and default Zen Cart image management will apply.

Your file: "images/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg" SHOULD HAVE been named "images/pandora_exclusive/bloem.jpg" (Please note there is NO suffix in the image name)

dre:

What I did:

I removed the small images , the _LRG and the _MED images. moved the _LRG images to the images folder.
uploaded the products again but then with the largest image
So it became as you told: images/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg

result: not working

Then i checked again the IH2 configuration: found a mistake there and put in the correction

result: not working

It's actually not working at all. NONE of your images are being optimized and generated in the bmz_cache folders as they should if IH2 was doing what it's designed to do. You DO NOT NEED images in the "images/medium" or "images/large" folders. You simply create your product, add a product image (the LARGEST image) and then let IH2 do the rest. All of the optimized images (small, medium, and large) will be generated and placed into the bmz_cache folder.

dre:

uploaded the products again but then with the smallest image
With FTP uploaded the _MED and _ LRG images

Then it was like before like this:

images/pandora_exclusive/bloem.jpg
images/medium/pandora_exclusive/bloem_MED.jpg
images/large/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg

result : WORKING!!!

It does work EXACTLY like this if IH2 is configured correctly (settings correct, permissions set on the appropriate folders correctly, images uploaded to the correct locations (and named correctly), etc)

dre:

I hoped that it would work like you say that you only need the largest image and that IH would do the rest.
It would save me a lot of time to make every image in 3 sizes.
But that option is not working now?

No you do not need to remove this.. This setting tells Zen Cart (not IH2) how to identify your medium and large images. If you use medium or large images using these suffixes, then IH2 will ignore ALL your images and Zen Cart's default image management features will identify them as the large or medium images.. If IH2 is configured correctly you do not need to use these suffixes in your image names at all..

I'm glad you are happy, but IH2 is not doing what it's designed to do at all, and based on what I can see in your store it has EVERYTHING to do with the way you have set up your images..

dre:

I it maybe that I have to remove the _LRG and _MED form this lines in IH configuration?:

Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG

Anyway its working so at this moment and Im happy already !

Thanks again

I am using IH and i am very happy with this addon :D

But i'd like to get some text like"more images"above my extra images.

Where and how can I do this?

Thanks

Richard

Rimo:

I am using IH and i am very happy with this addon :D

But i'd like to get some text like"more images"above my extra images.

Where and how can I do this?

Thanks

Richard

Hi Richard. That's not an IH2 question because it relates to making customizations to Zen Cart rather than to IH2.

I know the question has been discussed several times around the forum. No doubt if you do a forum wide search for something like "text above additional images", you'll find plenty of threads where the answer has been given.

Good luck :smile:

I have uploaded all my images for new site. Image names show under Image Handler and Product menus, but the image itself does not. If I manually reenter image name and location, images then show up on product page. I really don't want to have to do this for 4000 images. Is there an easier way?

markflynn:

I have uploaded all my images for new site. Image names show under Image Handler and Product menus, but the image itself does not. If I manually reenter image name and location, images then show up on product page. I really don't want to have to do this for 4000 images. Is there an easier way?
a link would help

and to be clear.. don't make us fish around your site.. Post links to specific products where the issue exists..

Also some insight as to how you loaded the images and associated them with your products would also help..

markflynn:

I have uploaded all my images for new site. Image names show under Image Handler and Product menus, but the image itself does not. If I manually reenter image name and location, images then show up on product page. I really don't want to have to do this for 4000 images. Is there an easier way?

nigelt74:

a link would help

DivaVocals:

I looked at your site and actually IH2 is not working as it should at all..

The ONLY thing working is the on-hover image effect (and it's not working as expected on all of your small images), but IH2 is not doing it's job at all.

Again, IH2 will take the largest product image (which you should have uploaded to your "images" directory) and from this file it generates optimized small, medium and large images and put them into the IH2 bmz_cache folders.. This is not happening for your site at all..

And this would not work.. Part of the issue is the way you have your images structured and NAMED... You DO NOT use a suffix in the image name. If you do IH2 will ignore the images and default Zen Cart image management will apply.

Your file: "images/pandora_exclusive/bloem_LRG.jpg" SHOULD HAVE been named "images/pandora_exclusive/bloem.jpg" (Please note there is NO suffix in the image name)

It's actually not working at all. NONE of your images are being optimized and generated in the bmz_cache folders as they should if IH2 was doing what it's designed to do. You DO NOT NEED images in the "images/medium" or "images/large" folders. You simply create your product, add a product image (the LARGEST image) and then let IH2 do the rest. All of the optimized images (small, medium, and large) will be generated and placed into the bmz_cache folder.

It does work EXACTLY like this if IH2 is configured correctly (settings correct, permissions set on the appropriate folders correctly, images uploaded to the correct locations (and named correctly), etc)

No you do not need to remove this.. This setting tells Zen Cart (not IH2) how to identify your medium and large images. If you use medium or large images using these suffixes, then IH2 will ignore ALL your images and Zen Cart's default image management features will identify them as the large or medium images.. If IH2 is configured correctly you do not need to use these suffixes in your image names at all..

I'm glad you are happy, but IH2 is not doing what it's designed to do at all, and based on what I can see in your store it has EVERYTHING to do with the way you have set up your images..

Hello again,

This explanation tells everything. excellent! thank you!

I did everthing as you described and have it working now with only 1 image the largest one.

Maybe you want to go check one more time for sure , but i think its ok now

Thank you very much,

You're welcome..:smile: I get that while the readme has lots of information, there is still a bit of confusion about the use of the image suffixes and IH2..

I have been working on a new readme for the next IH2 release.. In the upcoming release all the FUNCTIONAL changes are courtesey of Nigel and Nagelkruid.. However, I want to re-write the readme and instructions again to cover some gaps I've identified as a result of SOME questions (like yours) posted here.. I'm also gonna ask the admins if we can start a FRESH support thread.. (I think it's overdue) This one has become a bit long in the tooth as they say, and I'd like to update the lead post to include some FAQs upfront to minimize some of the support thread overhead..

Now off to check your site and see how your homework assignment came along..:smile:

dre:

Hello again,

This explanation tells everything. excellent! thank you!

I did everthing as you described and have it working now with only 1 image the largest one.

Maybe you want to go check one more time for sure , but i think its ok now

Thank you very much,

This is better, and you're part way there.. I hate to say it..

BUT...

Go back to the readme, and review the image settings section again.. Your medium and large images appear to be the same size.. This indicates to me one of two things..

Your ACTUAL original image is really smaller than your large image settings.

OR

Your large and medium image settings need to be corrected in the image settings.

If you make adjustments to the image settings you will need to delete EVERYTHING in the bmz_cache folders EXCEPT the .htaccess & .keep files.. (don't worry.. your original images as SAFE.. IH2 will recreate all the images in the cache with the new settings applied)

dre:

Hello again,

This explanation tells everything. excellent! thank you!

I did everthing as you described and have it working now with only 1 image the largest one.

Maybe you want to go check one more time for sure , but i think its ok now

Thank you very much,

DivaVocals:

and to be clear.. don't make us fish around your site.. Post links to specific products where the issue exists..

Also some insight as to how you loaded the images and associated them with your products would also help..

v1.3.9h Zen. Used Easy Populate to upload entire database to Zen. Image names that appeared in database appear in Zen under image name, but the image does not. Using file manager, I can see and open image in the images directory, and if I fill in the lines below product by product, it will work. The site is not published yet, so I can't send a link, but is hosted on a Hostmonster server. All other relevant product information does appear for each product. This is what I see basically under Zen admin, and as you can see, the image name is there. Do I need to remove the image extension? If I re-enter image name using last line below "select an existing image file from server, filename: " then the image does appear for that product. The only other problem I am having is the Product description field could be a little longer.

Products Image: Image Name: 2403.jpg Upload to directory:
Delete Image? NOTE: Removes Image from Product, Image is NOT removed from server: No Yes

Overwrite Existing Image on Server? No Yes

Or, select an existing image file from server, filename:

thanks for the tips...

Got image handler working ! Great Mod! Don't know how I missed this...but our server said they did not support it.....news to them!

Just to recount:

Zencart automatically loads in jscript files in the My_Template > jscript folder

Right?

My disable right-click jscript works just find in zencart...but not in the lightbox. Why doesn't it load in the lightbox?

js code is in above post....

my test site...very raw so don't expect to be impressed:

 www.geoodyssey.com/Products/ 

athena:

thanks for the tips...

Got image handler working ! Great Mod! Don't know how I missed this...but our server said they did not support it.....news to them!Like I said previously, it would be hard to believe that a host worth their weight in salt would NOT have either "GD libraries or ImageMagick" installed. They don't need to support IH2.. They do need to have the right hosting configuration to support it's USE.. (Sounds like your host does)

athena:

My disable right-click jscript works just find in zencart...but not in the lightbox. Why doesn't it load in the lightbox?I can't help you with getting your right click script working with the ZLB module.. It's actually not an IH2 support related question.. If niestudio is willing to help you with this he can and will on the ZLB support thread..

I only suggested IH2 so that you could use it's watermarking feature which IMHO is the BEST way to deter image thieves.. Right click scripts are so 1990s and are EASILY defeated by ALL modern browsers. A picture thief who is ACTUALLY wanting your images will EASILY work around your right click scripts.. I could name ALL the ways how, but again that is off topic for this support thread..

The watermarking feature in IH2 is a BETTER deterrent to image thieves as watermarked images will need to be edited to remove your watermark, and this is not a skillset most images thieves have. Lastly it's been posted many times in this support thread and in the ZLB thread, ZLB and IH2 share one common file, and the one from ZLB should be used for both modules to work together (as opposed to merging them). The link below should help in that regard.

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45314&page=253

Seriously without a link to your site I won't try and GUESS at what might be happening on your site.. Please post a link to the specific page you are having issues with..

FlynnAgency:

v1.3.9h Zen. Used Easy Populate to upload entire database to Zen. Image names that appeared in database appear in Zen under image name, but the image does not. Using file manager, I can see and open image in the images directory, and if I fill in the lines below product by product, it will work. The site is not published yet, so I can't send a link, but is hosted on a Hostmonster server. All other relevant product information does appear for each product. This is what I see basically under Zen admin, and as you can see, the image name is there. Do I need to remove the image extension? If I re-enter image name using last line below "select an existing image file from server, filename: " then the image does appear for that product. The only other problem I am having is the Product description field could be a little longer.

Products Image: Image Name: 2403.jpg Upload to directory:
Delete Image? NOTE: Removes Image from Product, Image is NOT removed from server: No Yes

Overwrite Existing Image on Server? No Yes

Or, select an existing image file from server, filename:

sorry...thought i was posting that in the zen lightbox thread...no wonder it wasn't there....

IMAGES COPIED TOO MANY TIMES BY IH 2?!?!?

Hi there,

I love the Image Handler, but surprisingly when I create a new product and upload an image using IH 2, it sometimes creates 4 copies of this 1 uploaded image and in addition adds 4 copies of a second image as well which I did not upload for this new product.

E.g. the follwing screenshot from the product detail / info page shows you what happens if I upload 2 images via the IH:

The 2 correct images are marked with a green checkmark, the additional unwanted copies automatically and wrongly added by IH are crossed in red.

Has anyone experienced the same?

-> This only happens from time to time!

-> I have set "Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row" to 4. This should not have anything to do with IH but I ask myself whether it is a coincidence that IH produces 4 additional images... ????

Image names are very simple without special characters (e.g. 4001_iphone4_display_02.jpg).
I am running ZC 1.3.9d.