It has been asked before - but no clear answer

I have been working on Mambo-Joomla for several years now so I am pretty uptodate with PHP, MySQL, and CMS's in general.

I have to say - ZENCART is something else. ;-)

Here is a URL:
http://www.wisdomee.com/cart/

I am trying to get the logo to display in its entirety.

I have searched the archives for adjusting templates to
accomodate the header_bg.jpg and the like.

All I have found are numerous different answers that lead nowhere.

This is the first time in a long time where I feel stupid.
Suggestions?
Trust me - I have searched everywhere and played with every file;
english.php, header.php, tpl_header.php

All I want to do is show the header_bg.jpg in full size.
I have been designing webpages since 1994.
ZenCart is confusing!

includes/languages/english/header.php - make your copy, put it in your override directory and change the following section:

// added defines for header alt and text
  define('HEADER_ALT_TEXT', 'Powered by Zen Cart :: The Art of E-Commerce');
  define('HEADER_SALES_TEXT', 'TagLine Here');
  define('HEADER_LOGO_WIDTH', '192px');
  define('HEADER_LOGO_HEIGHT', '64px');
  define('HEADER_LOGO_IMAGE', 'logo.gif');

The image is still using those defined sizes.

I do have one question, if you don't mind.

Why put your logo in the background instead of the foreground?

Kim:

I do have one question, if you don't mind.

Why put your logo in the background instead of the foreground?

Actually -- I am not trying to do that at all.

header_bg.jpg IS the logo.

I am try desperately to find a reference to it somewhere
and all I am getting from all the reading is a runaround.

I have never seen such a convoluted system as ZenCart.

I guess I have spent way too much time on Joomla and Mambo!

:-)

Kim:

includes/languages/english/header.php - make your copy, put it in your override directory and change the following section:

In my "override" directory?

I have placed "header.pho" in a variety of places
as described in the forums and DOCS...

and nothing has happened.

Refresh my memory please:

Where is the override directory?

--frustrated.

I'm sorry you're finding it difficult to understand the terminology we're using.

The "overrides" system is another name for the "foldername used for your custom template, as it relates to various components of the system".

There are "template" folders for "templates" and "languages", as well as "modules" and "sideboxes" and a few other things.

They all work together to make it very simple to switch between templates when necessary, as well as to make identifying files to be careful with when upgrading.

The FAQ's section has a number of good articles on the template system, which should help clarify things greatly for you:
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/faq.php?faq=catalog_issues#faq_template_customize

Colin,

In case you need more help on the overrides, take look at this thread - http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36567. Admittedly, it leads you to other places but should help overcome the "This is the first time in a long time where I feel stupid" factor.

As for your concern that > All I have found are numerous different answers that lead nowhere.
know that there only about five questions that I can answer and yours is one of them. In checking my threads and it looks like I have answered it 15+ times in May.

Suggest you read the FAQ and Wiki. With your knowledge of php you should catch on quickly and make great contributions to the Zen Cart community.

Best wishes.

PS - In case you are not aware, Kim is one of the devs here and whatever she says you may consider gospel. So if it does not work, it is most likely a ebkau problem

I really appreciate the people that have jumped in --

new problem:
http://www.wisdomee.com/cart/index.php?main_page=index

My "Logo" is, well obviously, too wide now...
And I am wondering if there is a setting somewhere that
I have missed.

Sorry to be a whiner, but with Joomla CMS, there is
an index.php and a template.css

With ZenCart, one is dashing all over the place updating all kinds
of files that seem to have little or no logical relationship to
one another - files here, files there.

Frankly, I am astounded.

I will keep trying though -- I really want to make this work.
Colin
Editor/Creator: https://www.coffeecrew.com - https://www.bobharris.com - https://www.dxer.ca - https://www.wisdomee.com etc etc etc

Colin-

I can empathize with you- I throw up my hands and cuss whenever I have to work with a system I am not familiar with - should have heard the swearing with vBulletin.

At first the overrides system with be confusing, but I promise there is a method to the madness and after working with it for a while you will suddenly see the light and understand the reason it is the way it is. It is so wonderfully flexible that you will ask yourself how you ever designed before.

Please take a deep breath and start at the beginning. :wink2:

I appreciate that.

I need to put it aside for the evening.

Tired.

Hi Colin,

I am barely able to spell CSS much less program it, but, it looks like your header is repeating rather than too wide. Maybe the norepeat; command in the logowrapper.

Also, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but, the Classic tempate is a holdover from previous versions. You would really be better off to start with template_default or Kuroi's template rather than starting with the Classic template.

One nifty suggestion I read was to delete all the files from the /classic folders and then as you edit files put the in the appropriate /classic folder. It will help you to know where you edits go a little more easily.

You will only edit files that are essential to get your information in the cart. Those files will be your new template and they go in various folders in /includes and a few in /admin (look for /custom). The core files don't get touched except by the devs for patches, upgrades etc. Your customized files don't get overwritten since they are in the /custom, /classic, /your_template, /whatever folder.

When you turn on your template in the admin, it uses the default file unless there is a customized version in you override folder.

This is the 60 sec version of what is in the thread that I referred you to. Took me many times through it to pretend that I understood. STRONGLY suggest you read the tutorial by NetworkDad in the FAQ (and in my thread from earlier) for more on this.

Don't give up.

Thanks for the help everyone - It is all starting to fall into place.

I think, if anything, I have spent so much time working on the
same CMS systems (Mambo-Joomla) and their associated extentions-API.

So much so that I have forgotten how to stretch my brain-cells into unusual shapes.

ZenCart is different (and immensely powerful), I will grant you that!

Cheers,

Colin -

https://www.coffeecrew.com | https://www.bobharris.com | https://www.wisdomee.com | https://www.dxer.ca | etc