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25 Jul 2006, 4:22 PM
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IntelCos:

As for the button, I prefer the layout as it is seen unless you feel it would be better placed elsewhere.

So the flyout is working now? :) good
Also, did my comment about using it on a multilingual site make sense? all the names can be edited to any language so it can be in anywhere from Albanian to Zimba.

As far as the layout, currently where you have your button, that is where the Quantity Discount table would go. So although you aren't using it, someone else could be and that large image link would probably shift the qty discount table down farther. Which isn't a big deal, but there is some extra room above or below the add to cart button on most sites anyway, especially in the way it was coded for the tabs, so right above the add to cart button would be my first inclined place to put it.

But then again, if you use the text link, it would make more sense to put it somewhere else. So its really a customization choice you can exercise for your own personal site. Im just curious to see if most people use the text link or large link image for that link and where they would like to see it by default.

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What did you think of the site, products have yet to be completed as the whole store is being redone for many reasons.

The current tabs you have (version2) overlap the right column in Opera and FF. Not sure why it's doing that for you, never had that problem for me. But it looks like you may have added some padding somewhere to fix the background of the left tab image on a non-white background because the border underneath each tab is slightly off. Things like that are why I switched to different tab code, there was too much bloat and confusion in the old tabs. So If we get this all figured out for you, I would recommend switching to version3.

Also, did you get your Cross Sell stuff working on your page? If not, send me your modified tpl and I'll try to help with both that and the ask a question image link placement.

25 Jul 2006, 7:21 PM
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Re: Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

I'll try your version 3 again as I made some changes to placement as well. Let you know what happens there in a bit

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25 Jul 2006, 7:40 PM
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OK, tried v3 and the tabs fail to work with massive java errors in both IE and Foxy.

No clue as to what gives with this....

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25 Jul 2006, 7:43 PM
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As far as the layout, currently where you have your button, that is where the Quantity Discount table would go. So although you aren't using it, someone else could be and that large image link would probably shift the qty discount table down farther. Which isn't a big deal, but there is some extra room above or below the add to cart button on most sites anyway, especially in the way it was coded for the tabs, so right above the add to cart button would be my first inclined place to put it.
I will take this opportunity to suggest to put it as high as you can on the product page. It will be more noticeable for shoppers there, specially if you have lots of description and/or attributes/options. Also an image button will be better to be noticed, since people don't read... And if you think, when listing, that a product might bring questions or doubts to the buyer, put a comment as well on the description of the AaQ button.

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25 Jul 2006, 8:10 PM
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I will take this opportunity to suggest to put it as high as you can on the product page. It will be more noticeable for shoppers there, specially if you have lots of description and/or attributes/options. Also an image button will be better to be noticed, since people don't read... And if you think, when listing, that a product might bring questions or doubts to the buyer, put a comment as well on the description of the AaQ button.

Well I wouldnt be changing the functionality of the AaQ contrib. just the placement of the default link. The link defaults to text then so I will leave it as text, it will be up to you to move it where you like it, but here is a decent place for it:

http://www.unbannable.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=2

But after seeing how easy it is to place the link, I think I just might leave it off. Unless I made a full tab out of it that has the actual form on the tab.

Also, based on the Ask A Question read me, there is a major fault in the author's recommended positioning if you do not have Stock, model, manufacturer, or weight enabled, it will not show the link. So I made the link more modular like the rest of the contribs:

<!--bof Ask A Question -->
  <span id="productQuestions" class="biggerText">
  <strong><?php echo '<a href="' . zen_href_link(FILENAME_ASK_A_QUESTION, 'products_id=' . $_GET['products_id']) . '">Ask a Question about this product</a>'; ?></strong>
  </span>
<!--eof Ask A Question -->

Thats how I have it on my demo link above. This would make it easier for you to move it around based on whether or not you have a text link or image link, you coudl customize where you want it.

IntelCos, please send me your v3 tpl file that you've modified to my PM so i can see what is possible wrong. You shouldn't be getting any javascript errors unless parts of your page aren't loading.

25 Jul 2006, 9:09 PM
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The link defaults to text then so I will leave it as text, it will be up to you to move it where you like it, but here is a decent place for it
Look like a good place for it.
But after seeing how easy it is to place the link, I think I just might leave it off. Unless I made a full tab out of it that has the actual form on the tab.
Right! Totally agree.
Thats how I have it on my demo link above.
Your page is showing an error and is not showing up correctly.

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25 Jul 2006, 10:12 PM
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Your page is showing an error and is not showing up correctly.

hmm? oh maybe i was in the middle of editing something when u checked.. should be fine now. Unless you are referring to the javascript errors.. thats because im also working on a new contrib.. those errors aren't related to the tabs.

25 Jul 2006, 10:18 PM
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Re: Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

using the v2 tpl display at moment, all I did was to try your v3 tpl and thats where the issues come into play.

x-sell tab shows, but no products showing, v2 x-sell works as you can see with products listed

as well, ask a question disappears with v3

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26 Jul 2006, 1:13 AM
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Re: Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

Unless you are referring to the javascript errors.. thats because im also working on a new contrib.. those errors aren't related to the tabs.
Yes, apparently that new contribution is affecting this item (continues there).
as well, ask a question disappears with v3
Did you add the code to the template file?

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26 Jul 2006, 1:44 PM
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Re: Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

OK just installed v3.1 Full release, and it fails to work at all. Showing a java script error and the areas where the tabs originally were (I was using v2.7 before) is simply blank. I haven't read all 13+ pages of info in this thread, suffice to say it was working fine at 2.7 ... installing v3.1 broke it, nothing else changed.

26 Jul 2006, 3:04 PM
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Showing a java script error and the areas where the tabs originally were (I was using v2.7 before) is simply blank.
Did you uploaded the jscript file?

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26 Jul 2006, 3:08 PM
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Pauls:

OK just installed v3.1 Full release, and it fails to work at all. Showing a java script error and the areas where the tabs originally were (I was using v2.7 before) is simply blank. I haven't read all 13+ pages of info in this thread, suffice to say it was working fine at 2.7 ... installing v3.1 broke it, nothing else changed.

If you don't have crosssell, you need to edit the TPL file and set those 2 settings to false. Got a link? I forgot to set these to false by default and it would give those similar results.

UPDATE

I'm working on a quick update:
New Features:

  • IgnoreGlobals : If you have a product that you don't want the global settings to affect, you can add this tag to your Product Description and it will ignore the Global settings for the tabs so you can manage them separately.
  • a few template shifts that seem to make more sense (thanks ideasgirl, intecos, and others)
  • Cleaned up a lot of the excess comments. I think all the commenting broke the code up too much explaining stuff that most users wont need to know. So I left only the important details and tried to keep the tabs section of the code more together so people can modify things around it without breaking them
  • Updated the Readme to explain a bit more about modifying the tpl file.
26 Jul 2006, 4:50 PM
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If you don't have crosssell, you need to edit the TPL file and set those 2 settings to false. Got a link? I forgot to set these to false by default and it would give those similar results.

Yep that fixed it, thanks. I agree that should be set to false by default though.

26 Jul 2006, 5:07 PM
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Pauls:

Yep that fixed it, thanks. I agree that should be set to false by default though.

Heh, well all you had to do was read 27 pages and you would have known that :P

But yea I will be sure (hopefully) to remember to disable it for the next version.

26 Jul 2006, 5:45 PM
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UPDATE

I'm working on a quick update

Q- Any timeline for the update? I'm configuring a new shop today and have TPL v3.1 (July 21 release) ready to upload. But I will wait if a new version is eminent.

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26 Jul 2006, 9:22 PM
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Re: Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

Trying to get back in the loop on this after a few days of not being able to work on it. I installed the latest version, and strange things happened - the tabbed area went super wide and pushed everything over, but more importantly, my cross sells weren't showing up (yes, I had that set to true). So I kept the latest javascript and reverted to my previous product info page. I guess that's okay???
I would LOVE to have the "MainImageOnTabs" set to true, because it lines things up so nicely, but when I try that, I totally lose my quantity discount box. It is GONE from that page. I had moved it up, wonder if I did something improper.

What I would still dearly love is for the quantity discount box to be on its own separate tab..

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26 Jul 2006, 9:36 PM
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Re: Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

What I would still dearly love is for the quantity discount box to be on its own separate tab..
I don't suggest that, don't hide the prices from the buyer. The additional tabs are great but for "additional stuff". Like more information, other related items, other images, but NOT for information necessary for a buyer to make the decision of buying the item/service.

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26 Jul 2006, 9:53 PM
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I don't suggest that, don't hide the prices from the buyer. The additional tabs are great but for "additional stuff". Like more information, other related items, other images, but NOT for information necessary for a buyer to make the decision of buying the item/service.

I guess your right, I DO see that point (after all, I'm the one that said I didn't understand why the default product page had the quantity discount box at the bottom, when that's the first thing people want to see).

But I DON'T like how it looks particularly on my pages, after I moved it.

Say... how did you get a background image in your quantity discount box?

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27 Jul 2006, 2:42 AM
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Re: Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

Here is an small update.. a few new features.. a little reorganization.

  • Added ability to ignore the globals for a certain product by adding the <!--@IgnoreGlobals@--> tag. This will allow you to set a product with no tabs or with a custom tab setup that you can add manually.
  • Shifted the tables with the add to cart button and quantity discount table to make it look better. (thanks ideasgirl, IntelCos, and others)
  • fixed a small bug related to having the add to cart tab by itself.
  • added a line of logic to the javascript file to adapt to the IgnoreGlobals feature to prevent javascript errors
  • Moved Product Details under the Price. This seems a good out of the way, yet informative place for this info.
  • Cleaned up a lot of comments.
  • Revamped the readme file.
  • MADE SURE THAT CROSSSELL WAS SET TO FALSE :P

I've posted this version in the Downloads area. v3.11

For those having problems, try this one. Make sure you copy over all the files to the right spot and rename the YOUR_TEMPLATE folder to the template you are using. For those not having problems, I've only updated the tpl file and the javascript file.

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Re: Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

I loaded that last version, all works for me. But qhome.... PLEASE help me. I simply have to have the quantity discount box up at the top of the page, ideally under the model # and shipping weight. Take a look at http://www.photoimprints.com/custom-magnet-p-27.html. The discount box HAS to be viewable when they go to the page. Because I have a long list of options & attributes, it's down at the bottom. Can you help me move it up under the weight?
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