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6 Jan 2006, 9:15 PM
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Attributes HOW-TO

Well...

I've a product that has one addon product but the addon comes in 3 different shape, 8 Designs, 16 colors, and 2 lines of personalized text.

Is this possible? I would like a check box for the addon and when the box is checked it make the shape, designs, colors... etc available.

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7 Jan 2006, 2:37 AM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

Currently, Zen Cart does not support dependant attributes ...

You could setup the options as attributes, but the testing for when one group of Option Values is selected in relationship to another is not built in at this time ...

12 Jan 2006, 1:54 AM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

Hello, I am very new to using Zen-Cart and have tried to read up through some of the forums... this has answered several questions but I still have something that I can't figure out.

Here's the lay out:

I want to sell photography online. I would like to have different "albums" or categories in which different products (photos) would be displayed. For each photo, I would like to offer several buying options from prints of different sizes to different products all listed under the specific photo.

For example:
category: Nature
product: Duck
items offered: 5x7 glossy
5x7 matte
mouse pad
puzzle

I would like each product to display unique price and be able to select more than 1 and tell how many per item...

is this possible without setting a "new product" for each item offered?

Also I would like to know why it tells me I don't have permissions to write an image to a file or to edit a file through the HTMLarea editor...

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12 Jan 2006, 6:06 PM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

You did say you didn't want to create a new product for each item that one particular photo embellishes... and I'm no expert... Semi-new to Zen Cart myself, so (take this with a grain of salt), why not make each item an Option of the Photo itself? Then, set dropdown values for these options:

Duck Photo is the Product.
Option Name 1 is Mousepad
Option Values for Mousepad are
Select From... (display only)
1 Pad
2 Pads
3 Pads
4 Pads etc.

Then, set the Price attribute with a weight attribute.

12 Jan 2006, 9:41 PM
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Ok I'll try that, didn't think of it that way at all... that might just work, BUT... maybe I don't understand it enough... how do you set different option values to each option? I can set the SAME value as the option... but when I try to set a different name it tells me it's incorrect or something...

EDIT** I think I have figured it out... I was looking at it from a totally different view before... thanks

12 Jan 2006, 10:51 PM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

ok... nevermind... still having a problem! I have figured out what you were saying with the drop down boxes... but if I only choose 1 item to add to the cart, it still lists all items offered in the cart... with option to change amount (of whole order only) in cart.

here's the page if you need to take a peek....

http://naturalimagesonline.com/index.php?m...1&products_id=2

and also, I would like to be able to add or subtract amount chosen... in the cart... per item, not per total package chosen per picture...

if this is even possible...

thanks in advance

13 Jan 2006, 5:21 AM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

Are they getting a 5x7 and a Mouse Pad?

Or are they getting a 5x7 or a Mouse Pad?

Are both optional?

Are both required choices?

Must one or the other be selected?

13 Jan 2006, 11:23 AM
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Hi,

Hope this is in the right place.

I am looking for a way to display the product options in a table which can be styled with alternating row background colours.
Is there any way to cause the options table to draw each product and its options into table rows like this:

<table id="mytable" cellspacing="0" >
<caption>Options </caption>
<tr>
<th>Ref</th>
<th>Width</th>
<th>Price</th>
</tr>
<tr> 
<th class="oddrow" width="127">CRC01-1000</th>
<td width="151"> 1000mm </td>
<td width="202"> <b>£469.00</b> </td>
<td width="202"><input type="checkbox" name="checkbox1" value="checkbox"></td>
</tr>
<tr> 
<th class="evenrow" width="127">CRC01-1200</th>
<td class="alt" width="151" > 1200mm </td>
<td class="alt" width="202"> <b>£509.00</b></td>
<td width="202"><input type="checkbox" name="checkbox2" value="checkbox"></td>
</tr>
<tr> 
<th class="oddrow" width="127">CRC01-1500</th>
<td width="151" > 1500mm </td>
<td width="202"> <b>£529.00</b></td>
<td width="202"><input type="checkbox" name="checkbox3" value="checkbox"></td>
</tr>
<tr> 
<th class="evenrow" width="127">CRC01-2400</th>
<td class="alt" width="151" > 2400mm </td>
<td class="alt" width="202"> <b>£569.00</b></td>
<td width="202"><input type="checkbox" name="checkbox4" value="checkbox"></td>
</tr>
</table>

At first look it would seem that I need to edit both the modules>pages>product_info>main_template_vars_attributes.php and tpl_product_info_display.php

Is there an easy way to achieve this that I have overlooked?

Thanks.

13 Jan 2006, 3:04 PM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

NaturalImagesOnline,

Unless your Options are actually Products (in which case, they would not be options), I do not think you can modify the QTY of the Option or modify the VALUE of the Option once added to the Cart unless you delete the Product then continue shopping.

It is my understanding that the quantity box applies to the Product.

Your Product can be "Duck Image" or "Duck Image Package." Establish a base price for the image -OR - the package. You might make the Product the image, then create the Package as an Option to the Product as well as creating additional options that allow your shopper to purchase additional items. Possible Product Attributes include:

Option 1 Name: Mousepad.
Dropdown
Values for Mousepad:
Select your quantity... (display only)
1 pad +$19.95
2 pads +$34.95
3 pads +$44.95
4 pads + $40.95
No thank you

Option 2 Name: Mug
Dropdown
Values for Mug:
Select your quantity... (display only)
1 mug
2 mugs
3 mugs
4 mugs
No thank you

Option 3 Name: Key Tag
Dropdown
Select your quantity... (display only)
1 key tag
2 key tags
3 key tags
No thank you...

Option 4 Name: Additional Photos
Dropdown or Radio Button
1 5 x 7
2 5 x7
3 5 x 7

Now, for any Product image, you can use these Option Names and Values and set prices in the Attributes Controller specific to each image (Product) to which you are applying the Options.

14 Jan 2006, 3:56 PM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

This would be more related to checkout than attributes ...

Attributes are not really "smart" settings as the results a a dynamic list of peices and parts that make up a Product but then are not real well designed for control features for checkout ...

Shipping settings/pricing should really be treated during the checkout process

Edited: see this thread for this part of the question on Free Shipping and APO

http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/ipb/index....showtopic=39395

20 Jan 2006, 10:00 PM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

well, maybe I'm not explaining it totally... ok there is one picture "duck" for sale. there are several different products offered for "duck"... 5x7, mouse pad, key chain, etc... all optional, with different qty...

say I am looking at duck, I want to see all products available listed below, with options to select....

so I choose 2 5x7's, 1 mouse pad, and 1 key chain...

so I add to cart...

shop some more for different items... then return to my cart...

while in my cart, I decide I do not want 2 5x7's of duck, but only 1... I cannot change this option without deleting all items selected for duck.... I would like to have each option available to change qty in the cart...(pref. in the item as well...)

is this possible? or do I have to list duck - mouse pad as one item, then re list duck - 5x7 as another item... and so on?? that would be very inconveinient....

I hope this has explained it more detailed... because I have already tried the suggestion and you still have to add or delete the entire order for duck... rather than changing each option...

thanks

21 Jan 2006, 4:18 AM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

Sorry- but the functionality you are looking for is not attributes, but more a "parent/child product" situation.

You could however make "Duck" a category with the products of mug, mousepad etc as individual products.

25 Jan 2006, 11:48 PM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

I read through 30 pages of this thread and can't find my answer! I think I must doing something simply wrong.

I'm making a website that sells purses. Some of them need different color options - fine, I got that working. But I need to add color swatches, just an image of the color samples (would be great to automatically switch the product pic with a different color one, though).

But I can't figure this out? I tried to upload a picture using Attributes Image Swatch several times, several variations, but nothing seems to work.

Any ideas?

26 Jan 2006, 3:36 AM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

The Attribute images display on the page, but there is not an automatic selection change when this happens on product image

One of the problems would be ...

I have 4 Option Names and each has Option Values with images ...

Which of the 4 rules the products_image?

26 Jan 2006, 3:47 AM
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I was having the problem of getting the images to display at all. I removed the Option Names and Values and did it over again and it worked fine, not sure why.

But yeah, I can see how that would be difficult... is there some way to manually add this? So anytime one of the color swatches was clicked on or moused over it would change the main product image? A mod perhaps?

You guys rock, by the way. I've installed Zen-cart before but with little modifications. This project has been a bit harder. These forums are a great help. ::tup

26 Jan 2006, 3:52 AM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

I don't know one off the top of my head but there have been posts on managing images differently than just the small, medium, large, additional small, additional large and attribute images ...

30 Jan 2006, 5:39 AM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

Ajeh:

good art hlywd:

On a products page, I have attributes, "Chain", "Stone" and "Details" for a piece of jewelry. It shows up in the order of Chain, Details, Stone. Is there anyway to organize the option names instead of alphabetically? I looked on the attributes controller page but couldn't see anything to specify the order of the option names. :huh:

EDIT: I figured it out. You can sort them per the Option Names page! DUH! Feel free to delete this reply. :P
Yes sorting works per Option Name and per Option Value within the Option Name ...

Note: there are also Default Sort Orders on the Option Values ... this let's you update all values on a Product's Attributes for the Product or Category or the whole site.

Another handy one is the Option Name Sorter and Option Value Sorter ... which are things often over looked for quickly setting default values etc and re-arranging sort orders ... :)
I tried the option names sorter and the option values sorter and my values seem to be correct for how I want things sorted on the product page, but they are still sorted alphabetically. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I'm sure it's something glaringly obvious. :D
The product I'm messing with currently.
I'd like it to sort in this order: size, grommet color, collar, shoulder treatments, bottom treatments, bias tape.
Thanks!!! I <3 zencart!
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30 Jan 2006, 2:34 PM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

You need to change the sort order of the Option Names ...

Then check the setting in the Configuration ... Product Info ... for:

Sort order of Option Names for Products Info
0= Sort Order, Option Name
1= Option Name
30 Jan 2006, 5:22 PM
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Thanks! That was the problem!
I knew it would be something simple.

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30 Jan 2006, 6:27 PM
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Re: Attributes HOW-TO

Thanks for letting us know that fixing the setting on the Sort Order for the Option Names fixed your display issues on the Option Name of the Attribute settings ... :)