Attributes HOW-TO

It's the book -OR- the download, since they are essentially the same thing.

We want the book to be $5.00 off the original price until a certain date.

if I set Include in Base Price to yes on all the attributes the same thing happens. The book adds to cart at $100 but the sub-total at the bottom of the cart is the discounted price.

Set the Products Price to 0

Set Priced by Attribute Yes

Now set the attributes to their full value

Based on this setting ... the display price is the lowest price of each of the Product Options are added together if they are marked Include in Base Price.

ok.

I set the products price to $0.

I kept the Price by Attributes on YES.

The attributes are maked to include the base price (which is $0).

The attributes are set to their full value price. E.g. the book is set at $52.50.

With the special on (the book for sale for $47.50) and only the book attribute set with the discount on the book shows at $0.00.

I can easily set the book to the discounted price and avoid this mess. I just wanted to be able to take advantage of the Specials feature in ZenCart so it would expire on a certain date. I guess that doesn't work when you want to discount one attribute and not the whole product.

Any ideas?????

The attributes are not designed to be discounted in the manner you are attempting.

I take it that the discount on the special is just for the book attribute ... but the others do not get the special discount, correct?

Actually, this is possible to setup as you want it ... just takes a little thinking through all the peices and parts of the pricing features available in Zen Cart ... it just takes a little fooling around with all the neat features to make this work for you ... :)

The products price is $0.00

Priced by Attributes is Yes

The Book Attribute is priced $52.50 and set to include in base price and Apply Discounts Used by Product Special/Sale: Yes

The Downloads are set to $20.00 each and set include in base price to NO and Apply Discount Used by Product Special/Sale: NO

Now the price will read: $52.50 Sale $47.50 and the pricing will work correctly when the Downloads are selected at $20.00

If you miss any of these steps it all comes out wrong ... :blink:

But if you are careful in how you use the options for the attributes it will work the way you are wanting it.

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I have not installed Zen yet so forgive me if I am posting out of turn (I just got an email from Linda this morning inviting me to try Zen instead of osc). :P

My question is two-fold

Question 1:
I have products that have 2 or 3 options that can contain the same option values. in OSC you cannot distinguish between them.

For example:

glaze 1 - Red
glaze 1 - Blue

glaze 2 - Red
glaze 2 = Blue

So when I assign product attributes, I cannot distinguish between glaze 1's red and glaze 2's red. Is this the same on Zen Cart?

Question 2

I would like to be able to limit second and third options depending on what option 1 is.

Ex.

Mazda 626
2 door or 4 door

if 2 door, then comes in red or yellow
if 4 door, then comes in blue or green

is there a way to make colors change depending on which model they choose? ( I don't sell cars, I wish!)

Option Names own their Option Values.

So if you have Option Names:

Glaze 1
Glaze 2

They would own their own separate Option Values for:
Red
Blue

When assigning them you would see in the list:

Red [Glaze 1]
Red [Glaze 2]

As to options being related or dependant to one another that is not a feature of Zen Cart at this time.

Thanks Linda! Can't wait to get home tonight to install!

Zoom zooom zoooooom!!

I am having a problem with the Price Attributes.
I created a product priced by attributes. Created
values: Price Level, then A-F, each adding $ to the total.

http://www.cybermidi.com/catalog/index.php...roducts_id=3099

Now when I click add to cart, the Sub-Total only shows the attribute price, not the full price.

Is this a bug or have I set something wrong somewhere?

TIA

Is the Product $60 and then you add:

A $0
B $15
etc.

If so this is not Priced by attributes.

I am assuming you have a Product Price of $60

Turn off the Priced by Attribute.

That is used only for when there is no Product Price and the Product Display Price should be built from the lowest price of the Option Values in each of the Option Names.

oops,
thanks again.

Sure thing.

Somethings you do need to price by attribute because there is no other way to interpret the initial price.

But other than those ... usually Price by Attribute is always No and you use the Products Price plus the attributes for everything.

Glad you are back on track :)

Is there any easy way to add an attribute to an entire category?

I have a checkbox option:
'Option1' -> {'Value1 (+$2.00)', 'Value2 (+$1.00)'}
and I need every product in category XYZ to have these checkboxes with the given prices. I can add this to each individual product, one at a time, or update the products that already have the attribute, but i don't see how to add the attribute to more than one product at a time.

thanks!
michael

Make a fake product (I set this to Out of Stock so it doesn't appear in the Catalog) ... Add the attribute to it.

Then do a Copy Attribute Update without deleting to a category and the 1 attribute will be copied to all products in that category.

Note: Be sure to always make backups of your database before attempting new things :)

Thank you Linda! That is exactly what I wanted. I completely missed that whole box of update/delete options.

Thanks again!

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michael

Basically, this whole system is way to confusing and ambiguous, and not visually laid out very well. It would be nice if it got an overhaul to make it more intuitive and explanitory...like maybe little 'explain this' links and better organization (perhaps less seperation?). It seems to have a lot of power, but there are a lot of problems with it being to techy and messy. For instance, the clients that need to maintain this site are friggin' lost when they hit a screen that looks like any of the three to manage attribs. It would be real nice if the admin section got seperated into a 'store manager' section, for lay people who just want to manage their products, and a techy section for us people who set up everything else.

mqtclct, no disrespect meant, but you do realize that ZenCart is Open Source? This isn't a corporation of coders. It's a collaboration.

On the other hand, I found the attributes section a little on the confusing side as well.
On the third hand, I'm incredibly greatful for all of the work done to ZenCart and will gladly deal with a little confusion. Sure as hell beats coding it myself (which would take me years!)

On the fourth hand, Linda rulez. :lol:

Yup.. true that.
(Try getting this type of support from a corporation)

And if I had fourth hand.. I'd be able to get off work on time, like before it got dark.
(finding shirts might be a problem though)